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Flake and McWhorter

Monday, February 23, 2009

Rev. Floyd Flake Pastor, The Greater Allen A.M.E.Cathedral of New York, and John McWhorter, Senior Fellow, Manhattan Institute, discuss the Obama presidency, the stimulus bill, and other matters.

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Comments [13]

longstreet from NYC area

hjs: re-read my previous response; you didn't comprehend it, obviously.

Feb. 23 2009 12:16 PM
hjs from 11211

god is that like the easter bunny or something?

so ur god doesn't ask u to help the poor? sounds like great guy.
the american way is the old boys network not people fending for themselves
i get your POV now.
'til next time

Feb. 23 2009 12:11 PM
longstreet from NYC area

hjs: re-evaluate your stereotypes.
I love to help others but the focus is on those who can't help themselves. Able-bodied people need to fend for themselves. That's the American way, after all. Well, it was the American way prior to the stimulus bill rolling back Clinton's welfare reform. The safety net is morphing back into a hammock.
As for abortion, of course I'm against it. And yes, the more kids, the better, rich or poor. Get away from your materialistic viewpoint; kids aren't simply economic units or a cost or a burden. They are a gift from God.

Feb. 23 2009 11:58 AM
hjs from 11211

longstreet
so I take it u have not put much thought into why poverty continues, u just don't think u have any moral obligation to help?
by the way are u opposed to abortion? if yes do u want poor people to have more children?

Feb. 23 2009 11:42 AM
aliveinNJ from New Jersey

Perhaps if we renamed parts of the stimulus package as a "bonus," wall street ranters and Republican governors might actually support it!

Feb. 23 2009 11:28 AM
longstreet from NYC area

hjs: I have lots of ideas but they are usually ignored, except by successfull folks.
BTW- Those stats didn't used to be that way decades ago. That's why I highlighted them.
The just concluded Flake/McWhorter exchange proves the point of my initial post; ignore the obvious problems, and focus on the "progress" that's been made. And, of course, sponge off of our fellow citizens for help with our mortgages. We're all victims, don't you know?

Feb. 23 2009 11:26 AM
HC from nyc

Citing the new york times from a year ago. One in 99 adults in this country are behind bars. One in 15 blacks are. In addition, to look at police shootings along with depressed quality of living conditions (including poor education choices, poor choices in sources of good nutrition, etc.) in predominantly black housing projects reveals obvious signs that racism IS indeed institutional in this country (just as our economic system is reliant on a certain amount of poverty). It is naive (since perhaops the holocaust if not before) to think that just because there are some of the oppressed in positions of power does not mean that they too cannot be part of the system of oppression.

www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/28cnd-prison.html

Feb. 23 2009 11:23 AM
dominick from Mamaroneck

Isn't this issue today in some areas (NYC) more about economic and education opportunity than about race. When the media concentrantes on the race issue, it avoids the real divide wich is access to economic success.

Feb. 23 2009 11:21 AM
Matthew Schmidt from Forest Hills

Richard Santelli, aside from being a moron, was at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange at the time an elicited that reaction from floor traders. If anybody believes that they are representative of general public sentiment, then I have some credit default swaps I'd like to sell you.

Feb. 23 2009 11:17 AM
Ian from Brooklyn

You need to have Reverend Dr. Johnny Ray Youngblood from the BCT/EBC, St. Paul Community Baptist Church on the show, he helped rebuild Parts of Brooklyn and knows the neighborhood. We need a Brooklyn prospective on this conversation.

Feb. 23 2009 11:16 AM
MichaelB from Morningside Heights

Calling Patricia T. O'Conner! Calling Patricia T. O'Conner!

Brian, you said your guests will "dialogue" tomorrow? Uggh!

What about they will "discuss"....

Feb. 23 2009 11:13 AM
hjs from 11211

longstreet

interesting choice of statistic. any ideas why african americans have not been able to escape poverty?

Feb. 23 2009 11:11 AM
longstreet from NYC area

Here's what I hope is an un-cowardly post. (May it please Eric Holder.)
Under Obama, black Americans will see a continuation of the same old, same old:
65% of black kids born out of wedlock.
35% of all abortions to black women.
Blacks will be 6 times more likely than whites to be victims of homicide.
Blacks will continue to be jailed at a rate of about 7 times the white population.
None of these stats will much change, as the root problems and causes will be ignored, as usual, in the era of Obama.
Finally, I have a provocative prediction, made in the spirit of the recent challenge to all we cowardly Americans.
Given the larger sociological data, and the Bristol Palin experience, we can expect one of Obama's daughters to get pregnant in his 2nd term. The question will be whether, at the grandfather-to-be's urging, she will then have an abortion, so as not to be "punished" with a child.

Feb. 23 2009 10:29 AM

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