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A View from Israel

Monday, June 03, 2013

Danny Danon, Israeli deputy defense minister (Likud) and the author of Israel: The Will to Prevail (Palgrave Macmillan, 2012), talks about Israeli politics and developments in the Middle East.

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Comments [27]

sanych

@ yawn

Your message shows that you are an imbecile.

Which meaningless message are you referring to?

And to whom? Swartzeh Socialist, Zionist-Capitalist, or Edward AKA E???

Jun. 03 2013 02:27 PM
yawn

Sanych: What a rude and meaningless thing to say to someone. Do you think you sound intelligent?

Jun. 03 2013 02:04 PM
jgarbuz from Queens

Sanych

Yup. I agree with Churchill on most things.

Jun. 03 2013 12:11 PM
sanych

@ jgarbuz

It is always nice to hear about your personal experience and see that you are still strong enough to wave a flag of Liberty, Democracy, and Ugly Primordial Capitalism.

On the other hand you are living proof to an observation - if you are young and not Liberal, you have no heart. And you are old and not Conservative, you have no brain.

Jun. 03 2013 12:07 PM
jgarbuz from Queens

To Sanych

Yes, Ben Gurion and his whole crowd were socialists who grabbed power early on, and I personally felt the effects of it when I lived in Israel in the 1980s. Israel turned me into a person who once wanted only to live in a kibbutz, to a rabid, right wing, pro-conservative, pro-capitalist person. You have to experience bureaucratic socialism up close and personal to fully learn to hate it. Thankfully, Netanyahu has lifted the country out of it for the most part. Free enterprise and capitalism have their problems, but socialism is a recipe of equal poverty for all forever.

Jun. 03 2013 11:49 AM
sanych

@ E from Heights
@ blacksocialist from baby
@ jgarbuz

Israel was established by Socialists. All early leadership - Ben Gurion, Golda Meir, Moshe Dian, etc. - were members of Labor party. Israel's Labor party even sends delegation to Socialist International. So, there is really nothing wrong with socialists as long as they don't have a prefix - like "National" or "Black".

Soviets did support Israel in 1948 when the USA was enforcing arms embargo. It is a documented fact that Israel got arms from Czechoslovakia during the War of Independence in 1948. In 1967 most of its weapons came from France, although the USA was warming up to Israel because the Soviets were arming Arab countries.

As far as Soviet-German pact of 1939, it is very complicated story. Plus, neither party was "Socialist" - one was Communist, another National Socialist...

Jun. 03 2013 11:43 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

to blacksocialist

WON the 1948 AND 1967 wars without a single American bullet! In fact, the NSA sent a top US spy ship to hinder Israel.

Jun. 03 2013 11:34 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

blacksocialist from BKbaby.

Aren't you ashamed for being a socialist - especially considering socialism's history.

For example:

The Soviet Socialist and National Socialist non-aggression pact of 1939?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

That pact lasted until 1941 when your National Socialists reneged on the pact.

Jun. 03 2013 11:27 AM
blacksocialist from BKbaby

jgarb - israel won the 48 and 67 wars without US support? youre a pathetic liar. israel wouldnt be such a no account apartheid loving war mongering country if it werent for US military expenditures. you are a pathetic liar.....

Jun. 03 2013 11:22 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

Yes, Edward

There is no apartheid in the Muslim world, because (a) they got rid of nearly all their Jews long ago, and (b) they subject minorities to extreme rules unless or until they either convert or leave.

Jun. 03 2013 11:20 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

The US should make it a priority to become energy independent from OPEC and keep billions of dollars in the USA.

Speaking of Apartheid, any Infidels in the audience ever visit Mecca?

Here is a road sign to guide you.

http://www.camera.org/images_user/muslims_only_sign-mecca_cropped.jpg

Jun. 03 2013 11:17 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

T blacksocialist

If telling the TRUTH is "rewriting history," so be it.I will continue to tell it and gladly back everything I say up with FACTS!

Jun. 03 2013 11:15 AM
blacksocialist from BKbaby

jgarb - i love how you zionists just keep trying to rewrite history.... cognitive dissonance much? just pathetic

Jun. 03 2013 11:13 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

To Uncle Sam

Israel won the 1948 and '67 wars without any US support, and where would the Arabs be without US support and all the money spent on oil from them over the decades, not to mention all the arms the US has sold them in exchange? Where would the Palestinians be without all the US aid via the UN since 1949? Where would Egypt be without all the free food we have sent them over the decades?

Jun. 03 2013 11:13 AM
E from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

70,000+ dead in Syria, and the "anti-war" crowd doesn't say a peep.

No demonstrations across from the Syrian embassy/mission/consulate demanding an end to the fighting.

Genocide is OK when backed by Moscow.

Jun. 03 2013 11:13 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

To hjs

There is more apartheid in New York City than there is in Israel.

Jun. 03 2013 11:10 AM
Uncle Sam from NYC

this guy speaks glibly and dismissively of the plight of human beings who are at not all sympathetic to his state, but are nonetheless rules by it.
As a Jew he must come to realize that he is simply echoing the attitudes of those armies and colonies and states that have ruled over a population with the force of guns, tanks, war planes, armies.
I don't see how you can justify what Israel is doing in the West Bank.
Where would Israel be without the Uncle Sam's unwavering support?

Jun. 03 2013 11:09 AM

No No he was talking about apartheid

Jun. 03 2013 11:08 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

To GJ

No, not "clear" at all, except in the media. The fact is, that Jewish settlements only take up 4% of West Bank land at most. Arabs living in Israel take up much more Israeli land, and constitute over 21% of Israel's population. The Jewish settlers only make up 8% of the population in the West Bank.

Jun. 03 2013 11:08 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

To Jean Marie

The very name "Golan" is straight from the Hebrew Bible, and like Judah and Samaria, is occupied Jewish land.That is, occupied by Arabs and Druze. The Golan was supposed to have been part of the Mandate, but the French managed to secure it for the Syrian mandate and hence became part of Syria. But since Syria has been at war with ISrael since 1948, and was used by the Syrians to try to deny Israel water in the 1960s, its liberation by the Jewish state is only just and fair. It belongs under Israeli rule, though Israel has been willing to negotiate over it.

Jun. 03 2013 11:06 AM
GJ from Manhattan

I think he is saying, Israelis will live throughout the West Bank. It's clear, they are slowly taking over pretty much the whole thing. That's why we have to look in the "long term", he says, not think about a solution too much now...

Jun. 03 2013 11:05 AM
Bobby G from East Village

Very sharp and thus informative interview, Mr. Lehrer. Thank you.

Jun. 03 2013 11:02 AM
Jean Marie Offenbacher from Manhattan

It is deeply disappointing, but not surprising, that this war hawk's reference to Iran's involvement in the attacks of September 11th of 2011 were dropped and left unopposed. Iran's involvement in that affair was, in fact, to provide the best actionable intelligence against Al Qaeda to the United States; since the biggest enemies of Al Qaeda were Iraq, Iran and Syria.
Once again the invalid, even absurdist, claims of a representative of the arms industry are raising the specters of weapons of mass destruction and the enemies of Al Qaeda paraded out as their BFFs.
Check out Haliburton's new contracts to drill in Syria's Golan Heights, while it is Israeli-occupied.
Senator Lautenberg is probably turning in his grave at the new war mongering that is being aired on our public radio.

Jun. 03 2013 11:01 AM
fuva from harlemworld

Oppression breeds despotism. Ergo, the vicious cycle.

Jun. 03 2013 11:01 AM

Why can't we get an opinion about Arabs from an Arab, not an Israeli?

Jun. 03 2013 10:58 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

It's nice when Brian puts on a Likud spokesman, though the Israeli accent in English sounds about as good to American ears as an American accent in Hebrew sounds to Israeli ears. I.e., not good.

And yes, since Syria and Lebanon are still technically at war with Israel, Israel does have the right to bomb them. And vice versa.

Jun. 03 2013 10:58 AM
blacksocialist from BKbaby

yes, of course, we need the opinion of the israelis. the war mongering apartheid loving israelis, because their security is so concerning to we, americans.... can't wait for the hack lehrer interviewing this clown. just pathetic

Jun. 03 2013 10:51 AM

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