The Brian Lehrer Show Edit this Published in The Brian Lehrer Show New Yorkers and Guns Listen 12 min Queue Download this audio Want to embed this player? Use the code below. More info. <iframe frameborder="0" scrolling="no" height="130" width="100%" src="https://www.wnyc.org/widgets/ondemand_player/wnyc/#file=/audio/json/29592/&share=1"></iframe> Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Email a Friend Kirsten Gillibrand's Senate appointment has revealed some differences between how New York City residents and upstate New Yorkers view guns. Caitlin Kelly, author of Blown Away: American Women and Guns, and Paul Helmke, President of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, talk about the upstate/downstate divide.