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Wednesday, December 31, 2008

Steve Zeitlin executive director of City Lore and co-author of Hidden New York: A Guide to Places That Matter, and Brooks of Sheffield, the pseudonym of the author of the Lost City blog, offer a postmortem of the local establishments lost in 2008.

Question of the Day: What New York City establishment that closed in 2008 will you miss the most? Comment below.

Guests:

Brooks of Sheffield and Steve Zeitlin

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mary from west village

jefferson market in the village is being taken over by gristedes . they left the jefferson market awnings up. but the number you call if you want a job is at a gristedes
office.

Jan. 24 2009 02:20 AM
Gordon Polatnick from Harlem

Harlem's jazz day club, EZ's Woodshed. Gone after bringing 6-hours of live jazz for free daily for three years. It was a place plopped down on the nearly forgotten street of jazz landmarks (7th Ave & 131st/132nd) such as: The original Tree of Hope; Connie's Inn, The Lafayette Theatre, The Hoofer's Club, The Rhythm Club, Count Basie's etc. For the time being the mural on the window gate by The Picasso of Harlem, Franco the Great, can still be admired. RIP

Jan. 02 2009 02:26 PM
Be

I just want to set the record straight. Post 34 used the example of history to point out that the sight of the Empire State Building was formerly the first Madison Sqaure Garden, and we should take away from this history lesson that change is innevitable in NYC... Maybe so, but the first Madison Square Garden was at... (drumroll please!) MADSION SQUARE!!!! In fact no version of MSG has ever been at the current sight of the EST. Get your facts straight if you're going to attempt to cite nyc history to draw ridiculous conclusions.

Jan. 01 2009 07:26 PM
Brooks of Sheffield from Lost City

DC Pace: The Cedar Tavern that closed in 2006 was indeed not in the same location as the place were Pollack, de Kooning et al hung out. But both places were run by the same family, so there was a continuum there. So it was, in effect, THE Cedar Tavern in spirit, if not is physical terms. So, so much for YOU and YOUR expertise. Also, the final Cedar was only the latest version of a tavern that dated back in 1866. A loss by any measure

Dec. 31 2008 02:38 PM
Ben Silverstein from Chelsea

and is it worth remembering that Coney Island High is now a quiznos?

Dec. 31 2008 01:51 PM
Peipei Zhou ("pay pay") from Chelsea, NYC

re books -

while my buying habits haven't changed, what i have gotten into in 2008 are audio books. i've listened to a wide range of selections, anything from the classics like War and Peace to the frivolous like David Sedaris.

one more word regarding the Kindle - it is a great conversation starter! i once witnessed a man standing on a subway platform, getting approached by 3 different people asking about the Kindle in the span of 5 minutes.

Dec. 31 2008 01:41 PM
Lenore from Upper West Side, NYC

More Upper West Side--Morris Brothers, last year, the florist on Bway and 91st, the bookstores at 93rd, Liberty clothing and crafts, even two Starbucks a few years ago! (87th and 102, both replaced by banks)

But Morris Bros and the florists are still vacant--we are told that landlords make more by leaving the space vacant and taking a tax write off. Meanwhile there is nothing to buy on Bway. I despised Giuliani but I blame Bloomberg more for this situation.

OTOH, something to CHEER US UP--the survival and thriving of Symphony Space through all those years of landlord threats--quite amazing and heartening.

Dec. 31 2008 01:16 PM
Elizabeth Janovsky from Manhattan

Well, Kim's Video did move - into Kurowycky's! so the latter is gone.
The Gramercy Memorial Chapel (where my father's memorial was held) will be a Duane Reade. Good thing, b/c the closest one is a whole avenue away. And you can get cash down the block at the Chase on the corner of 10th St and 2nd Ave. I dare you to ask for a lean cut and a knish to go w/it.

And was CBGB's this year or last? Now a boutique clothing store and the Gallery is - wait for it - a Chase.

Dec. 31 2008 12:09 PM
Rachel from upper west side

RIP Oppenheimer's Meat Market (Broadway & 98th).

Can we start a discussion about places that opened in 2008 that show promise?

I deplore the creeping homogenization and the closing of truly irreplaceable places too. But some of the new places are good. The upper west side has some great new restaurants. Any candidates for future beloved neighborhood institution?

Dec. 31 2008 12:06 PM
JohnG from Manhattan

It is significant that the homogenization of New York began under two mayors who did not grow up in the city: Giuliani and Bloomberg. Does anyone think that Ed Koch would have let this happen?

Dec. 31 2008 11:52 AM
Allen ex-East Villager from Jersey

Ah, the wonderful B&H! It was always a thrill there to hear "Jumbo Jockey" echoed by the staff when you left a sizable tip. Ratner's on Second Ave. is long gone, and the Dojo on St. Marks Place, and Vaselka on Second Ave. Wonderful owners, wonderful food to explore for a 21 year old kid from Ohio in the mid-1970's.

Dec. 31 2008 11:48 AM
Bob W from New York

The Kent Avenue Power Plant in Brooklyn was knocked down this year. Originally built to provide power to the trolleys and subways of the Brooklyn Rapid Transit system, it was the scene of the TWU's 1937 sitdown strike that led to its successful organizing of most transit workers in the City within a few months. Con Edison bought the plant in the 1950s from the City. Unfortunately, we remember most the places we often visited -- rarely the places in which we worked. And those large workspaces are almost never recycled into something that befits their prior existence. If only we had the imagination of the builders of the the new Tate in London who converted the old waterworks.

Dec. 31 2008 11:39 AM
buddy valenti from bay ridge, bklyn

griswold's pub on 3rd ave & 79th st closed after around 50 yrs and some nameless bank
took its place as if it never existed.

Dec. 31 2008 11:26 AM
anonyme from NY NY

I donno Gary from the UWS - how old are you? Do you have any idea of teh contributions and the longevity of so many mom and pops, or that some of them become huge? I'm guessing you must be very young or just out of b school - what a clueless remark!

Dec. 31 2008 11:16 AM
Susan Sively from Bay Ridge

Bay Ridge lost the Bay Ridge United Methodist Church ("The Green Church"), its most significant landmark, this year. The church was demolished this fall after a lengthy preservation battle that both galvanized and bitterly divided the community. The loss of the church is, in my opinion, a historic preservation catastrophe that will resonate for years to come.

Dec. 31 2008 11:11 AM
superf88

Definitely Coney Island.

Dec. 31 2008 11:09 AM
Melissa Gordon from Jackson Heights

Thanks for doing this segment on Lost New York; little did I know when I voted for Mike Blumberg that he would reign over the single greatest distruction of New York, and call it business development. Business development for who? Israeli developers? Of course this began with Guilliani, who let the Big Box store into Manhattan.

The fabric of New York has been distroyed and New Yorkers can't afford to live and raise families here any more. I moved to Jackson Heights because there is an historic district and a six story rule on the height of buildings, both of which keep out developers.

So sad.....

Dec. 31 2008 11:06 AM
Lynne Allen from NYC

Going back to the '70s, but I will never forget Sutter's Bakery on West 10th Street near 6th Ave. The most amazing warm poppy seed danish in the world. Forced out by raised rents, they closed, never sold their recipes to anyone else.

Dec. 31 2008 11:04 AM
D C Pace from NYC, NY

So much for your experts & their expertise... the Cedar Tavern, whose demise they bemoan, was not the hangout of the beats & abstract expressionists... the original location was at 24 University Place between 8th & 9th... the bar just closed was a replacement that opened in the early 60s... it never saw the likes of Jackson Pollock, de Kooning & Jack Kerouac gettin all drunk & messed up... a similar story applies to the Cafe Figaro... Quit whining... Who was it that said..."the city is as changeable as the human heart"?... DCP

Dec. 31 2008 11:01 AM
Kevin from NYC

Demitrios Deli and as if by magic a Silo Café opened across the street.

32 E 32nd St, New York, NY, 10018

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Dec. 31 2008 10:57 AM
Brooks of Sheffield from Lost City

One thing I failed to mention in the interview: P & G Cafe, the last great tavern on the Upper West Side, closed tonight, after 60 years. Go pay a call and toast them!

Dec. 31 2008 10:51 AM
adrienne from upper west side

one more thing still alive and ticking (praise god) B&H Dairy (60 years)! second and (around) 8th.

adrienne

Dec. 31 2008 10:51 AM
Stacey-Jo from Yonkers

For those that think the business owners who have closed their doors are just bad at business you are mistaken. The two dance studios that have closed are American historical venues where amazing art has been invented and wisdom transferred. Paul Taylor was already paying over $130,000.00 in rent. Come on, this is about greedy landlords.

Dec. 31 2008 10:51 AM
Melissa from Florence, MA

Me! New York City lost me this year. My rent skyrocketed as the apartment literally crumbled around me. I'm a single artist-type who does lots of freelance gigs to stay afloat, and alas got too tired after treading water for so long. But I didn't leave before I saw my bodega close, the umpteenth opening of an expensive stroller store and even small boutiques turn into realty offices. And, I should say, I'm one of the alleged gentrifiers of Carroll Gardens, who in turn got further gentrified out of the nabe...glad I can still get my Brian fix up here in Western Mass.

Dec. 31 2008 10:49 AM
Jeffrey Slott from East Elmhurst

The Barnes and Nobles location in Chelsea. The landlord increased the rent to such an extent that even B&N couldn't afford it! There were patrons who actually cried when the placed closed. And for what? The building still is empty after three-quarters of the year has passed. Many businesses in the area depended upon the foot traffic that B&N generated for their own continuance. I second the opinion that it isn't nostalgia that is "death", but pure, savage greed.

Dec. 31 2008 10:47 AM
Steve Carter from East Village

peter from manhatten:

Yeah, the retail moves to First Ave. So one can buy stuff.

The rentals will be gone. This is the last day of rentals. There's an article about it in today's Daily News entertainment section.

Dec. 31 2008 10:46 AM
ben orozco (oh-roz-ko) from windsor terrace

here's an institution of a sort that's gone by the boards: nat hentoff was fired by the village voice yesterday.

Dec. 31 2008 10:44 AM
Mike Bonheim from NJ

I didn;t even know that Knitting Factory was closing/moving. That sucks. Yet anpother staple of the avant garde, experimental, indie music scene in manhattan gone. No wonder I don;t go out to see shows anymore.

Dec. 31 2008 10:40 AM
George from Westchester

Not only has the forced closures made a big diference in neiborhoods but also businesses forced to relocate have left many neighborhoods gentrified to the point that in some cases they are almost unrecognizable. The Blind Tiger (one of the elite beer pubs) was forced out of it's west 10th st. address. That along with the situation at Chumley's, not to mention other changes the neighborhood, has taken away the uniqueness that made it and those establishments as special as they were. Perhaps in the long run the transplanted businesses will make their new neighborhoods just as special. However, that is yet to be seen and in the mean time the whitewash continues. I feel NY is losing in most cases.

Dec. 31 2008 10:40 AM
adrienne from upper west side

still around: Yonah Schmmel's kinishery (over 100 years, houston and first) veselka, 9th and second, di roberti's supposedly will open after a renovation but I don't know exactly what that means, its been around for over 100 years. Giovanni's ,on the grand concourse, an amazing old fashioned italian red sauce place (the best!), nothing nouvelle, and run by estonians. the oyster bar in grand central.

also, this is the more upscale, not mom and pop places, but the old hotel lobbies and bars in NYC are a lot of fun if on a special occasion you have the dough: the algonquin, bemelmans (At the carlyle) the king cole room at the st regis

I will be forever heart broken about cafe mozart and (I can hardly get myself to come to grips with this) la fortuna

...kaddish for NYC

Adrienne

Dec. 31 2008 10:40 AM
Hank from Brooklyn

My neighborhood in south Park Slope near 5th Avenue and Ninth Street lost the Paris Cafe - owned by a marvelous Brazilian woman and her French husband this was pre yuppie cafe open 365 days a year. Great soups, breads pastries and coffee.

Dec. 31 2008 10:37 AM
Jason from http://oneforthegooddays.com

Please Read On Air:

I would like to lament the loss of the "indie" venue. Treasures like Northsix (Brooklyn) and Irving Plaza (Manhattan) had long provided intimate (and sweaty) opportunities to see your favorite bands up close only to be replaced by boutique chic venues like The Music Hall of Williamsburg and The Fillmore.

That isn't to say that we haven't had the pleasure of seeing at least one potentially great venue open as well. The Bell House in Gowanus provides that same chic atmosphere without sacrificing an ounce of audience/artist intimacy.

I would like to surmise that the fall of these cornerstones is due to the fact that these establishments are run by individuals with a strong disconnect to the generation their venues are serving. Once big money enters the pictures, they feel obligated to give in because they don't have anything invested in it.

Dec. 31 2008 10:36 AM
Yolanda from Park Slope

I really miss Cafe Le Madeleine on West 43rd Street. It had a wonderful indoor patio, very good food and lots of theater folks. Evicted by landlord. Ugh!!! I also miss Chez Laurence on East 44th Street and Madison very much. Both places had a wonderful ambience.

Dec. 31 2008 10:35 AM
Yosif from Manhattan

Passerby bar on 15th and 9th. This bar had a floor that lit up like in Saturday Night Fever. It will now become a condo complex. The only bar worth going to with music worth listening to. Down with gentrification! NYC is becoming lame.

Dec. 31 2008 10:34 AM
Maria from Brooklyn

Brick Oven Gallery in Williamsburg Brooklyn -Sorely missed

Dec. 31 2008 10:34 AM
Caterina

Collective: Unconscious alternative theater closed its door in July 2008. I'm saddened by the demise of alternative arts spaces in NYC due to the lack of affordable space for artists to make and present work. www.weird.org

Dec. 31 2008 10:34 AM
LAFOU from NYC

Post 47: My cousins kids were visiting NYC in the late 90's after the Disnification started and said, "This is just like Cleveland!"

Dec. 31 2008 10:33 AM
Mike Bonheim from NJ

So, not in 2008, but I'm STILL mourning the loss of The Wetlands...Anyone in their late 20's to early 40's who loved live music and who was of even a slight hippie bent anywhere within the tri-state area wpould go there - this was arguably a major launching point of the entire jam band movement.

Dec. 31 2008 10:33 AM
Chris from Staten Island

i will miss the knitting factory. it closes it's doors tonight on leonard street. great location, great shows, 3 floors of music at all times, cheap beer, good sound.

it's moving to williamsburg, but it's just one less venue in manhattan to go see national, local, upcoming, jazz, punk, literally everything. sad to see it go. one more loss for the manhattan live music scene.

it will be missed.

Dec. 31 2008 10:33 AM
Gary from UWS

These places closed not because the economy is tough, but because the owners are lousy business people. I bet the vast majority have no clue what a P&L is? And the remaining who do never used one to run their businesses. That's why they're gone. Period.

Dec. 31 2008 10:32 AM
Nancy from NYC

Go GO G-O! to Katz's and all your other old faves, keep these places going!

For example: Best drugstore in the world is Block Drugs on 2nd Avenue and 6th Street -- I walk in and Carmine, the pharmacists, calls out "Hey, Nance, how are you?" You don't get THAT at Duane Reade!

In Chinatown, GO to Ting's gift shop on the corner of Pell and Doyers. It hasn't changed a jot since I first was taken there by my parents in the early '60s. The people who own it are dear, and it's filled with tiny treasures!

Dec. 31 2008 10:31 AM
celia from Ditmas Park

The store that had been Old Japan on Bleecker St. for 15 years is now yet another part of the Marc Jacobs empire.

Dec. 31 2008 10:31 AM
Eric from jersey city

El Cid... 15th st. the best tapas. a true traditional classic.

Dec. 31 2008 10:29 AM
peter from manhatten

steve carter: i thought kim's video is just moving? at least that's what the staff says when i ask them ..

Dec. 31 2008 10:29 AM
Joe Corrao from Brooklyn

KIM'S!!! thats right good call

Dec. 31 2008 10:29 AM
gunter from East Village Resident

Not closed yet but they posted the notice: Love Saves The Day on Second Ave is closing in January! It's one of the last remnants of the Hippie days in the East Village.

Dec. 31 2008 10:29 AM
james from brooklyn

that's what's so sad about NYC it really is a tableau for anyone group to project unto and cover what you loved, you just need to accept it I guess.

Dec. 31 2008 10:29 AM
Stacey-Jo

Paul Taylor Dance Company was finally kicked out of their SoHo studios (after 20 years they were at 550 Bway for 20 years before that) so that Banana Republic can have a 2nd floor! They are homeless until next year when they will be moving into studios in the LES.

Dec. 31 2008 10:28 AM
David O'Donnnell from Manhattan

Kims Video the East villages premire video store is closing its gates and sending its video collection to Italy

Dec. 31 2008 10:28 AM
william from Lower East Side

Gertels Bakery on Hester Street is becoming yes....wait for it!!!

a condo

thank god there is Brown Restaurant nearby creating a new tradition that might last as long.

LOVE YOUR SHOW BRIAN, Happy New Year

Dec. 31 2008 10:28 AM
celia from Ditmas Park

Geppetto's Toy Shop on Christopher St. -- a toy shop that we loved -- closed to be replaced by upscale men's shoes. I hope it closed soon.

Also on Christopher St., Matt McGee's magical Christmas store closed and moved around the to a sad, cramped little space around the corner (but I think that was last year). I'm still depressed.

Dec. 31 2008 10:28 AM
Gary Cohen from Battery Park City

Yonah Shimmels, since 1910!!! The gateway for many Jews into the New World. How much longer before the last knish blooms from that hallowed ground?!

Dec. 31 2008 10:27 AM
Marlene from UWS

The independent video rental store KIMS on Broadway between 114th and 115th closed this year.

Dec. 31 2008 10:27 AM
Harlan from Inwood

Twin donuts on 218th st. and broadway! They have a new sign up, but ...

Dec. 31 2008 10:27 AM
Mark La Rosa from brooklyn

Here's a place on the verge of closing for several years that's holding on: Freddie's. Great neighborhood bar in Prospect Heights right around the corner from me. Ratner's Atlantic Yards project has been threatening to demolish Freddie's for years, and they have been a focus in the fight against the AY development. Not sure how much longer they'll hold on, but I'm glad they keep holding on!!

Dec. 31 2008 10:27 AM
Modus Ponens

How many of these mom & pop places have closed simply because mom & pop were tired of running their shops?

Dec. 31 2008 10:27 AM
avessa from manhattan

Bloomberg believes in a city of the rich, for the rich, by the rich. He, therefore, has contributed to the destruction of the cultural richness of NY.

Dec. 31 2008 10:27 AM
Angela Dryden from Manhattan

I miss the Strand book store on Fulton, which closed earlier this year. The eternal street work on Fulton street is suffocating all but chain establishments.

Dec. 31 2008 10:27 AM
Stephen from Brooklyn

The friendliest bike shop in the city, the Hub Station at Hudson and Morton Street, closed this year. These folks weren't snobs like all the other bike shops in the city. They were helpful, friendly, and it is a shame to see them go. Hopedully they will resurface.

Dec. 31 2008 10:27 AM
Sean from Bedford Stuyvesant, Brooklyn, NYC, USA

Cafe Martino on Myrtle Avenue in Clinton Hill. It was only open for a couple of years, but it was a decent spot.

Dec. 31 2008 10:27 AM
Paul Barnes from Manhattan

The Donnell Library om 53rd St -- with the best collection of art books in the dity.

Dec. 31 2008 10:27 AM
Erika from Chelsea

The wonderful age-old Jefferson Market in the West Village. Jefferson Market, struggled through the summer and now seems to be officially closed. It's hard (impossible really) to find a market with a full meat & fish counter, yummy fresh prepared food and ,here's the hard part, that also has the regular groceries you need for everyday. They also had great prices. Jefferson had/has(?) wonderful service and is bright and airy inside.

Do you have any information for how to help Jefferson?

Dec. 31 2008 10:27 AM
Sue from West Village

Nusraty's store on Bleecker and W. 10 had been there since the 70's was forced to leave this fall because his rent had been raised to $45,000 a month. Brooks Brothers Black Label will open their soon. Nusraty sold middle eastern rugs and art objects and was a neighborhood figure.
In the last 8 years,Bleecker Street between 7th and Hudson has been totally transformed. There are 4 Ralph Lauren stores and 3 Marc Jacob stores within a TWO block area.

Dec. 31 2008 10:27 AM
paul Reuter from brooklyn

Bridge Kitchen Left the city. Julia Childs put if on the map because you could get anything you wanted. It wasn't glossy like the chain stores. Now I'll have to look harder for things I need

Dec. 31 2008 10:27 AM
Ben Silverstein from Chelsea

I would consider the entire landscape of Chelsea as one of the shrinking personalities of NYC. That personality being the grass roots and original LGBT community

The past 8-10 years has seen the closing of several of the gay institutions including: Big Cup, Roger & Daves, Hell (the bar which closed prior to 08 i believe), and even that gorgeous little house on the corner of 18th and 8th was demolished last year to make way for a big ugly building!

What is going on in this city that we are just bulldozing small business and really wringing any sort of cultural and social life out of each and every neighborhood!

Dec. 31 2008 10:27 AM
Gerry Lesk from Manhattan

RUNGSIT - our favorite Thai restaurant on East
26th Street, closed, to our dismay. The food
was delicious and the people who ran the place were wonderful. They had been restaurateurs (sp?) in our neighborhood for more than 30 years, starting out at BOBO on East 23rd.
They moved to East 26th, I think, about 15 years ago.

We got to know the family who owned and ran it, and we loved them. One time we were in there for lunch and I forget why it happened,
but the owners brought us a bottle of wine.

RUNGSIT was replaced by another Thai restaurant which we do not like as much. Also,
the neighborhood right around where they had
been, has seen several new, very stylish
looking Thai places open up, but I have not
tried and will not try any of them.

Dec. 31 2008 10:27 AM
Kristina bakker from West village

Bleecker Street and now Hudson Street has become "Sex and the City-Land." Small affordable places are gone, replaced by high-priced shops/restaurants. 4 Marc Jacobs shops! 3 Ralph Lauren. Even a Starbucks. Stores that sell clothes for small dogs? Busloads of over-dressed girls on the weekends eating awful cupcakes.

Dec. 31 2008 10:27 AM
Andy B from Brooklyn

I miss the old Dumpling House on Eldridge St. It's just not the same after it's renovation. It was a classic chinatown $5 dinner for two in a florescent lighted narrow, greasy hallway of a place. Now it's a big place with some local artists photos on the wall and little track lights and woodwork. WHY!!??!?

Dec. 31 2008 10:26 AM
JR from Brooklyn

I was devastated by the closing of Chez Brigitte, the tiny (tiniest in the New York?) restaurant on Greenwich Avenue west of 7th Avenue South. The most tragic casualty of the gilding of the West Village.

Dec. 31 2008 10:26 AM
Anne Kane from Beacon, NY

Let us not forget that, as a recent caller approaching 50 reminded us, the new restaurant now called an "upscale somethingorother" is some young person's new hangout for perhaps the next twenty years. Good luck to them!

Dec. 31 2008 10:26 AM
The Truth from Atlanta/New York

I will miss Astroland! I will also miss the Polar Bears but, as the world turns more and more things will become extinct.

Dec. 31 2008 10:26 AM
Robert from NYC

Too many sushi bars. I mean, how different can they be one from the other!!! Eventually they'll only be able to get not very fresh fish as supplies get bought up. Yuk!!

Dec. 31 2008 10:25 AM
Smithered

Sorry, gotta chime in here -- don't blame Bloomberg but Guiliani for kickstarting the conversion of commerce from quirky to corporate.

Bloomberg has definitely continued this but most people who cherished non-corporate NYC had already moved out by the time Bloomberg showed up. Guiliani is the devil here -- even worse he gave them all tax breaks so when 2000 came he had to shutter the libraries.

It all changed in the early and middle 90s.

Dec. 31 2008 10:25 AM
hjs from 11211

and what happened to burritoville?

Dec. 31 2008 10:25 AM
Sean from West Village

Jefferson Market has closed. There are signs which say it is re-opening, but it doesn't look promising.

Dec. 31 2008 10:24 AM
John Celardo from Fanwood, NJ

I grew up with the Dilibertos, the owners of the Cedar Tavern. My good frienbd Joe died of cancer on'07, and his brother Mike didn't want to reopen the bar. The Cedar was originally on 6th Street, and moved to University and 11th in the 1955. I've spent many spellbinding hours listening to Joe and Mike's father Sam Dil1berto talk about the great people that drank and didn't pay at the bar. There was also a short story by Capote, i think, about the bar.

Dec. 31 2008 10:24 AM
james from brooklyn

Mexican Radio in South Street Seaport...it was right under the Brooklyn on ramp but it was cheap and relaxed and I loved it...now it's some french bistro, under an on ramp.

PS has anyone been to that site NYsonglines, I think it closed, it had every corner in the city listed with its history.

Dec. 31 2008 10:24 AM
Genji from LES

Jesse nostalgia is not death. Nostalgia is eternal life. Greed is death.

Dec. 31 2008 10:24 AM
Madeline from Manhattan


The lovely Maya Schaper Cheese & Antiques on West 70th Street, which is closing today after decades of selling -- as the name implies -- delicious cheese and wonderful silver and china at affordable prices.

This was truly a little corner of gentility in the best sense of the word. Maya tells me that the shop will become a cafe -- an independent, one hopes, and not a chain.

Dec. 31 2008 10:23 AM
Nate from Columbus, Ohio

How about a shout out for those great small business that are STILL in business?! Moishes Bakery since 1972, Economy Candy since 1930, Russ and Daughters since 1913, etc.

Dec. 31 2008 10:23 AM
karen Ludlam from Ft. Green Brooklyn

The Liquor Store Bar in Tri Be Ca near N.Moore St. turned into a fancy mens' clothes store. I suppose thankfully it kept the bar facade but it is still very upsetting.

Dec. 31 2008 10:23 AM
Steve Carter from East Village

Kim's Video!!!!!!

Dec. 31 2008 10:23 AM
Joe Corrao from Brooklyn

1 thing that really sucks is the that the public space area in Union Sq is shrinking as they let restaurants take over that space...

Dec. 31 2008 10:23 AM
Robert from NYC

Second Avenue Deli is now Chase Bank!!!

Dec. 31 2008 10:22 AM
adam from new york

Although it didn't actually close, my family will no longer eat at or order from Saigon Grill...what a loss to our weekly dining.

Dec. 31 2008 10:22 AM
CB from Brooklyn

A friend of mine with an interest in NY history pointed out that there have always been spots that, at the time, were considered quintessential New York. His example was the original Madison Square Garden, which was an essential NY landmark, until it was torn down for the Empire State Building, which of course is now an essential NY landmark, while the original MSG is forgotten.

The previous poster is correct: nostalgia is death. However, I don't see these old landmarks being replaced by new landmarks. I don't think people will be nostalgic about the passing of Starbucks and Duane Reades and glass condominiums 20, 30, 50 years from now.

Dec. 31 2008 10:22 AM
Michael from upper west side

I have a website where I map the restaurants on the Upper West Side and I can't keep up with the closings!

www.uws-eats.com

Dec. 31 2008 10:22 AM
Bonnie from Brooklyn

Col Legno on East 9th street in Manhattan.

The food was great, best spinach salad I've ever had. Chris the owner, always reminded me of the Stanley Tucci character in the movie "Big Night"

Dec. 31 2008 10:22 AM
Arthur from New Rochelle

RE the chinese restaurant that was replaced by Le Pain Quotian (which is also De Dag Brood in Belgium) is a Belgian restaurant/bakery and NOT a French one. One interesting about the place in that is has a 'group' dining table, that is, one so big that many people sit together at the same table and perhaps get to talk and meet each other.

Dec. 31 2008 10:22 AM
Eppie S. from NYC

Lost in 2008: Regent Fabrics, East 60 St btwn Third & Second Avenues. Walked by to replace buttons. There was a sign in window: Lost Lease.

Dec. 31 2008 10:22 AM
marcus from Brooklyn

L'Angelo's corner of Houston and Thomas.

Dec. 31 2008 10:21 AM
Barbara Genco from Brooklyn

We still miss Jerry's --formerly on Prince Street near Greene in Soho. It was an icon of Soho when artists were still able to live and work there. (it is now a Michael Kors store!)The space was wonderful, the staff friendly and warm; we went there for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Though Jerry has reponed a place in Tribeca the vibe will never bee the same. Like the old Prince Street Bar--it represents a time now lost for New Yorkers. Soho is now a high end mall.

Dec. 31 2008 10:21 AM
Carl from Inwood


My favorite bookstores in Manhattan.

First, 12th Street Books closed and relocated to Brooklyn and it's not quite the same. Something's wrong about new Brooklyn incarnation on Atlantic Ave. It doesn't feel right. Something ineffable was lost. Plus IT'S IN BROOKLYN.

Also, the Strand Annex on Fulton street: The Strand's, prettier, friendly sister store that was always wonderful to browse on Sunday afternoons when it wasn't crowded.

Dec. 31 2008 10:20 AM
Dale from Brooklyn

Nostalgia is not death. Starbucks, Chase National, Citibank branches are death.

Dec. 31 2008 10:20 AM
Leslie from Manhattan

Love Saves the Day on 2nd Avenue in the East Village has closed- an institution for decades, vintage gear for all- gone!

Dec. 31 2008 10:20 AM
Erin Fae from park slope

the LGBT community definitely lost important landmarks/hangouts. Both the loss of Rubyfruit and of Cafe Florent are significant. With the political losses experienced by the gay and transgender community in 2008, the closing of these two meeting spots is a special blow. Truly a tragedy for a community has such a rich history in this city....often made in small cafes and bars where people could gather.

Dec. 31 2008 10:20 AM
lauren from greenwich village

Sucelt coffee shop on 14th st near 7th Ave was a tiny storefront with 3 smiling hispanic ladies serving the lucky ones in the know the best empanandas, cafe con leche, big meals for few dollars. Sorely missd, hoing to hear they will turn up elsewhere one day.

Dec. 31 2008 10:19 AM
Eric from East Village

My laundromat on 13th street. Not very historic, but it's now the third laundromat thats closed in the last 4 years and I'm running out of places to wash my clothes while being continually surrounded by another hip restaurant. Resturants and clubs make the culture of this city, but they run on the backs of laundromats, delis and other necessities that are removed silently from our streets in favor the next fad.

Dec. 31 2008 10:18 AM
Ljova from Upper West Side

Happy New Year! I will greatly miss the Legacy Recording Studio on 38th street. It was an amazing place to record, possibly the last large orchestral recording studio in Manhattan. The building was sold to build a condo - I wish the developers luck.. Also, the Bear Bar, on 77th & Broadway, closed a month or two ago, and the whole building is slated for demolition. It was the last dive bar on the Upper West Side, at least until 103rd Street...

Dec. 31 2008 10:18 AM
Ciesse from Manhattan

I still can't get over the best dance clubs of the last decade, casualties of Giuliani, like Filter 14 and Centro-Fly. Apart from sparse exceptions, the only places to dance now are glossy mega-clubs and hipster joints.

Dec. 31 2008 10:18 AM
Lynn from NYC

i think someone may have just said this, but I was dismayed to have the chain Burritoville disappear overnight! It was Mexcellent (to quote its own posters).

Dec. 31 2008 10:17 AM
Genji from LES

David's Bagels 14th Street and A.
Five Roses Pizza Ave A 12th Street.

Dec. 31 2008 10:17 AM
Tania from Brooklyn

Park Slope lost the 2nd Street Cafe which had an amazing brunch and desserts. There were tons of pictures drawn by the customers hanging on the wall. It was replaced by a children's pharmacy. :(

Dec. 31 2008 10:17 AM
Joe Corrao from Brooklyn

I have been in NYC for 15 years and EVERY year stuff leaves that had been there for ages...thats what NY does

Dec. 31 2008 10:17 AM
Judd Maltin from Park Slope

Oh, wait... Shopsin's just moved to the East Village - nevermind!

Dec. 31 2008 10:17 AM
Sean from West Village

Mama Buddha on Hudson Street. It was a great chinese restaurant to hang out in and a staple delivery place for nights at home.

Dec. 31 2008 10:16 AM
Matthieu from Brooklyn

Judd: Shopsin's still exists! They are in the Essex Street Market. Tiny, but still wonderful!

Dec. 31 2008 10:16 AM
Liz from Brooklyn

I've only lived here for 5 years. Can you name some places I should go to that are in danger of closing?

Dec. 31 2008 10:16 AM
Jesse from Brooklyn

Nostalgia is death. Why not do a report on all the new innovative establishments that have opened this year?

Dec. 31 2008 10:15 AM
Dale from Brooklyn

How much of this is Bloomberg's fault, he hasn't been a friend to small business. He's all about big bucks. So NYC is now becoming the place you can go to get all the crap that you can get anywhere else in the country, you just pay a lot more for it. Witness Starbucks... it's like a buck cheaper in LA for a mocha.

Dec. 31 2008 10:15 AM
John Celardo from Fanwood, NJ

I have another one, Shopsins. Kenny tried to move to Carmine Street, but it didn't work. Too clean.

Dec. 31 2008 10:15 AM
LAFOU from NYC

The closing of Chez Laurence on Madison Avenue in Murray Hill this year broke my heart! They had fabulous pastries.

Dec. 31 2008 10:14 AM
Matthieu from Brooklyn

There was a Thai place on 44th Street called Yum. It served food on paper plates and plastic trays, and you ate in cramped quarters, sometimes seeing a cockroach run by, but the food! It was so good. Always so, so good. And a great place to get food in the middle of the minefield of bad food in Times Square. I was very sad to see it close its doors this year.

Dec. 31 2008 10:14 AM
Lenore from Upper West Side, NYC

My Korean deli on Braodway between 87th and 88th Sts. The entire storefront of this large building was emptied out--a restaurant, Hot and Crusty which moved up the block and raised its prices, and the deli. Then all the stores remained empty while we wondered what was going to replace it--a bank? Duane Reade?

Turns out, according to the Times last Saturday, that a developer plans to put up a large condo--great!! And the homogeneity of the Upper West Side continues...

Dec. 31 2008 10:14 AM
Judd Maltin from Park Slope

We're losing the freaks too! Shopsins, the very quirky hangout with the infinite menu and everything available with fluffernutter - on Carmine Street in the West Village is now some upscale something or other.

Dec. 31 2008 10:13 AM
Eric from Brooklyn

I have to say that I will NOT miss the OTB location in my neighborhood. I live in a diverse neighborhood with various shops and services, but this was the one place that added nothing the area except for a ring of cigarette smoke that extended about 50 ft.

Dec. 31 2008 10:13 AM
Nancy from NYC

Will sorely miss the Minetta Tavern, in the West Village, that was a mainstay for many years. Not for the food, but for the ambiance and gravitas of the place. The place is allegedly being re-opened but, after it's "ruinovated" (!) it won't be the same.

The Monkey Bar in midtown is also undergoing a (second!) ruinovation -- lost!

Also Five Roses Pizza on 1st Avenue just below 11th Street - a real homey, neighborhood place; it was like enjoying great NY pizza in a nice auntie's kitchen.

Dec. 31 2008 10:12 AM
John Celardo from Fanwood, NJ

Don't forget Restaurant Florent, the diner that established Meatpacking!

Dec. 31 2008 10:11 AM
august from harlem

I hope when we show recognition for the departed we remember that the polar bear became extinct in the wild this year. I have yet to see it anywhere recognized. things we have lost happy new year to all and to all a safe night

Dec. 31 2008 10:09 AM

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