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Tuesday, December 09, 2008

Erica Gonzalez, opinion page Editor, El Diario and Ken Lovett, Daily News Albany Bureau Chief, and Michael Lavers, Mid-Atlantic editor of EDGE Publications, talk about the "gang of three" agreement.

Guests:

Erica Gonzalez, Michael Lavers and Ken Lovett

Comments [21]

Office Worker from Brooklyn

Gary #4,

This is not a pure democracy, and it was never intended to be. We have a Bill of Rights and a Constitution for a reason. These are to guarantee rights for ALL citizens...whether you like it or NOT.

As a black man, I find the suggestion that ANY group's equal rights should be subject to a vote or referrendum to be highly offensive and not so subtly remnicent of how my people were treated (and still are).

Equal rights for all supercede majority rule.

Dec. 09 2008 02:30 PM
Eileen O'Kane Kornreich from Greenwich Village

e.i.COBRA: Your guest gave out wrong information to the man in the Bronx (from Calif.) saying that CIGNA is not responsible for helping with COBRA. I had a very similar problem getting my son COBRA, 1 year of letter writing, telephone calls to CIGNA, until I hired an attorney, and I quote from the letter that changed CINGA's corp. mind "I want to say that there is implicit in ERISA (law governing COBRA) a requirement that the fiduciaries of the plan operate it in a fair manner, and that they communicate information about the participants' right and obligations that is comprehensive and accurate, in a manner calculated to permit those participants to protect their rights." The attorney then quoted a case law. Please, if you can help that gentleman and contact him with this information. E.O'K. K.

Dec. 09 2008 11:08 AM
joli from Bloomfield NJ

I had a boss once who handed out phony awards at our annual Christmas party. He made Michael Scott ( of the Tv show The Office) look like Ghandi. I won the "Weight Watchers" award. 'Nuff said.

Dec. 09 2008 10:58 AM
Nina from Queens

It's sad to see these 3 Democrats have not learned anything from Obama's leadership or the recent economic meltdown. The decision from state govt affects us all - Democrats, Republicans, gays, non-gays, Latinos, non-Lations, you name it. The power of democracy is: the voters who're aware of their petty, power-mongering maneuvers can vote them out. I certainly will if they represent my district and nominate/vote for someone who is mature, disciplined, intelligent, compassionate, a problem-solver and not a problem-creator.

Dec. 09 2008 10:37 AM
Voter from Brooklyn

#9, KC from Washington Heights,
Another tact is taking a tougher stance on illegal immigration and supporting ICE, outing illegal occupancy/crowding in rent controlled and rent stabilized apartments, report immigration fraud and sham marriages, and reinforce labor laws and publically embarrass companies employing illegal immigrants.
Fight bigotry and hatred in kind, only you’ll have the law on your side.

Dec. 09 2008 10:30 AM
Nina from Brooklyn

It's not about personal convictions, it's about the constitution. A ban on gay marriage is unconstitutional, and any politician's personal religious convictions or the religious convictions of his constituents do not matter, or should not, under the founding laws of our country. It's time to return to the separation of church and state that is the reason for our existence. "I'm a Christian" is not a valid response from a politician to the question of Gay marriage.

Dec. 09 2008 10:25 AM
Mark Leach from upper westside Manhattan

What is the process by which we might recall these three rebels?

Dec. 09 2008 10:25 AM
Mario from Washington Heights

Major slip by one of Brian's guests. He said that the democrats will have a big push to end rent control. He actually means that there will be a big push to end "vacancy de-control" which allows rent-stabilized apartments to be turned into market rate units without protections. This is part of the Real Rent Reform campaign, which would strengthen our rent laws, and which many think is the most important set of laws that will face the legislature this coming session.

Dec. 09 2008 10:25 AM
Paul from Manhattan

Voters like me helped elect Democrats for a purpose: to further the party's traditional ideals of equality and justice. If they're going to bargain away those ideals to take power, then what was the point?

If the Democrats are going to act like bigoted faux Republicans, we might as well have stuck with the real Republicans.

Dec. 09 2008 10:23 AM
JRB from Jersey

I'm wondering if this will lead to a short-lived Senate Democratic majority. Remember that the last time Democrats got control of the state Senate in 1964, there was a long deadlock, lasting until the end of January 1965 when Mayor Wagner struck a deal with Governor Rockefeller.

Left a sour taste in everyone's mouth and Zaretzki's hold crumbled within a year.

Dec. 09 2008 10:20 AM
Robert from NYC

Boy can she spin, she should work for CNN.

Dec. 09 2008 10:19 AM
Voter from Brooklyn

Where to begin… Politicians holding control of the state senate hostage for personal advancement and to enshrine bigotry; classic New York. Bigotry coming from minority and first or second generation immigrant group claiming they deserve more visibility and are the true voice of American ideals… Classic New York. (Think me making that comment is bigoted? Look at the stances of the Catholic and Anglican churches in South America and Africa and the influence they are trying to have in the United States.) Spineless Democrats; classic New York. Nothing getting accomplished because egos matter more than the people… Again, classic New York.

Dec. 09 2008 10:18 AM
KC from Washington Heights

Maybe we gay folks should decide that political cooperation with latinos is untenable and we should do all we can to deny latinos gaining leadership positions in Albany.

Dec. 09 2008 10:17 AM
Alan Pavese from Upstate New York

What are the odds that we Malcolm Smith will bring the issue to the floor for a vote?

Dec. 09 2008 10:17 AM
Owen from Rochester

I admit that the Gang of Three seems pretty sleezy to me, but couldn't you argue that this is actually a step towards a more democratic system of government in the state? After all, the Three-Men-in-a-Room model is awful and totally undemocratic. Isn't this putting more power in the hands of the rank and file, where it belongs?

Dec. 09 2008 10:17 AM
Robert from NYC

Under-representation of Latinos in leadership? I think not and unfortunately most of those who have made it to the leadership like Rubin Diaz and sleaze or just plain corrupt and thugs. And I can name names if you like. This is a mess and that's because the Democratic Party doesn't put their foot down on these people and not support them.

Dec. 09 2008 10:14 AM
Ralph from The Bowery

Isn't this what ya get after years of "3 Men in a Room"? Is this the only way for the rank and file to do anything that matters? If the conductors will not stop the train, the only thing left is to stick it up.

Dec. 09 2008 10:13 AM
Gary from UWS

I find it interesting that liberals like democracy when it goes their way. But if a vote By The People produces a result that liberals don’t like--such as a ban on gay marriage--liberals look to force their will on The People via an undemocratic court rulings, often using bogus arguments like “it’s a civil rights issue” and society will eventually “come around” to the “right” belief.

No state has legalized gay marriage via a vote By The People. In fact, gay marriage has been denied in every vote on the issue. Only courts rulings and state legislatures ramming it down the throats of The People have resulted in gay marriage legalization. That’s NOT democracy.

Dec. 09 2008 10:13 AM
JJ from nyc

Hold on a sec... NY allows Civil Unions. So, what's the problem?

Dec. 09 2008 10:13 AM
Robert from NYC

NYS has never been a leader in anything, NOTHING!! Go back and see we've had one of the most conservative and non-progressive govts in the country. It should be moved to the South "South NYS".

Dec. 09 2008 10:12 AM
Tom from Upper West Side

Re: Malcolm Smith

Nothing like selling out your gay constituents for guaranteed power. Boy, will this be remembered! Oh, yeah...Be sure to send us fund-raising letters.

Dec. 09 2008 10:10 AM

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