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Reimagining American Influence in the Middle East

Monday, April 29, 2013

David Rohde looks at the evolving nature of war and argues that a dysfunctional Washington squandered billions on contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan, neglected its true allies in the war on terror, and failed to employ important nonmilitary weapons in the war on terror. His new book Beyond War: Reimagining American Influence in the Middle East surveys post-Arab Spring Tunisia, Turkey, and Egypt, and finds a yearning for American technology, trade, and education, and says only Muslim moderates can eradicate militancy.

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Comments [12]

antonio from baySIde

Sanych, get a life..

Apr. 29 2013 01:55 PM
sanych

@antonio from baySide

A simple Google search "israelis filiming 9 11" shows a number of pages dealing with the subject. For example, http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Dancing_Israelis

Now, crawl back...

Apr. 29 2013 01:48 PM
antonio from baySide

To Jgarbuz from Queens...
Sorry if you felt I inferred that, but I didn't inject the "dancing" etc. I believe just "filming." I meant perhaps these stories may allow other stories to be consumed more easily. But I have always wondered what would be the point of filming it? And how did they know to be there?

Apr. 29 2013 01:24 PM
jgarbuz from Queens

To Antonio from Bayside

That Israel has had (and probably still has) undercover Mossad agents operating in New York, sometimes in Israel-owned moving companies, to spy on suspected terrorists is true. But that these 5 characters were "dancing" or somehow involved in the 9/11 attack is false.

Apr. 29 2013 12:48 PM
sanych

"Most Muslims don't support...", "al-Qaeda failed to radicalize American Muslims...", etc. Tell it to 150+ people injured in Boston.

"Women were wearing min-skirts under Russian occupation". Forty years ago!!! Where are they now?

Drinking kool aid...

Apr. 29 2013 12:37 PM
antonio from baySide

Maybe the reason why folks are more inclined to believe theories regarding 911 etc is because there are some incidents that were true...
I mean President Bush did testify TOGETHER with Vice President Cheney in closed door meetings regarding the attacks?
Google the misidentified arabs filming the attacks on 911 in jersey city, they turned out to be members of the Mosad...That's true!

I think these examples coupled with how the US handled IRAQ makes people skeptical...

Apr. 29 2013 12:36 PM
John A

David needs to say something from his experiences about the peacegiving ability of Islam, to reach us ignorant Americans.

Apr. 29 2013 12:35 PM
Ed from Larchmont

The Muslim Brotherhood is persecuting Christians and others.

Apr. 29 2013 12:35 PM
jgarbuz from Queens

After WWI there were only 20 million Arabs in the world. Today there are 400 million. A 20 fold increase in one century. How was this made possible? One word: OIL! The influx of wealth into the Arab world from the West in exchange for oil is what made this possible. But other than oil the Arab countries and opium from Afghanistan, what have they got that we need?

And what about all the grain we give and sell to the Arab world? They are almost totally dependent on food from the West. They fix the price of oil in OPEC, and sell it to the West, and and then use that money to buy arms from us.

I grew up at a time when there was NO trade with China and NO trade with the Russia, and little with India, and US employment rate was lower than today. Then we opened up to Asia, and they ate our lunch.

We are in the Middle East to protect the oil resources for the West. We also get opium from Afghanistan. I'm not sure what we get back in return.

From Israel at least we get all kinds of technology, but from the Muslim world mainly oil and terror.

Apr. 29 2013 12:28 PM
Ed from Larchmont

The problem isn't moderate versus devout religion, it's that this strain of Islam is very heretical, not an accurate view of reality at all, dangerous. For followers of radical Islam, indeed, more devotion is a bad thing.

Apr. 29 2013 12:22 PM
John A

But how to encourage activism and reform from the peaceful Muslims?
So far much silence from them.

Apr. 29 2013 12:09 PM
sanych

I don't think that "a yearning for American technology, trade, and education" is the same as acceptance of Western ideas of mutual co-existence, respect for human rights, women rights, minority rights, etc. From Mohammed Atta to Tsarnaev brothers, people who engaged in violent jihad against the US had Western education and enjoyed Western technology from flashy cars and iPhones. It did not stop them from their hatred of the Western civilization.

As far as "dysfunctional Washington squandered billions" - there are two ways to approach the current conflict: the American and the Israeli ways. The Great Satan's way is to bomb democracy and freedom into the other side. The Little Satan's way is to build a wall and let the "Muslim moderates" take their sweet time to "eradicate" each other.

I tend to like the Israeli approach...

Apr. 29 2013 11:24 AM

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