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Marathon Bombing Aftermath from Boston to DC

Monday, April 22, 2013

After the late-night arrest of Boston marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, a host of legal and political questions has emerged. Anna Palmer, Senior Washington Correspondent for POLITICO, discusses how DC is reacting: from debate over whether to treat him as an "enemy combatant" to what the incident may mean for immigration legislation. And the Boston Globe's Mark Arsenault discusses the latest in the investigation.

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Comments [44]

L. Mac from Boston, MA

Questions and thoughts about this case? The mother and older brother seemed to change over time and become less Americanized. The mother was shoplifting, older son not working, father was of limited resources. Mother and father left. Are the parents even together? It didn't appear that way in overseas interviews. Who has supported these young men, the house they live in, a college education? Did the mother and father leave because the older son was starting to get in trouble with possible murder in Waltham, MA in 2011, abuse of his wife, and then bomb building plots? Why is the mother and father not back here for their family. She said they were a casualty of religious discrimination. How would she explain Tim McVeigh then? That's crazy! Just wanted to see if anyone is thinking about these thoughts.

Apr. 23 2013 11:32 PM
muriel from NYC

Is it possible that the key to young men committing these kinds of crimes is that they just don't get it that they can have a voice and have power through speaking out. How can the education system, government, religion, parents and extended family shift this consciousness and teach young men that there are other ways to speak out and make your feelings heard.

Apr. 23 2013 10:51 AM
jawbone

rose ellen: "I noticed the media is reluctant to say their names"

That might well be because many are having trouble figuring out exactly how to pronounce their last name and, as I frequently put it, the 19 year old's, the younger son's, first name.

Spelling and pronounciation is not that obvious to most of us mostly English speakers.

What I have noticed is that while initially they were id'd as being Chechen, now some who are more anti-Russian in the MCM are referring to them as Russian. Maybe because the US and other Western nations have been involved in funding and supplying weapons to the Chechen separatists (and control of gas/oil pipelines are behind that maybe?)? Or just to poke at Putin? Keep the Cold War going...or heat it up?

Apr. 23 2013 10:35 AM
NANCY from nyc

Has it been explained why they were at MIT? Was there something at MIT that they wanted to hit with the bombs they apparently had with them, the ones they were throwing out of the car at the police.

Apr. 22 2013 01:21 PM
rose-ellen from jackson heights

I would say this was done as vengeance;retaliation for all the civilians killed by American in the past few years. Including children who have had their limbs blown off by air strikes. Just a guess.

I noticed the media is reluctant to say their names. That is because they are Russian ,not Arabic names. Usually when the culprits have Arabic names the media makes a point of saying them over and over again in even one news segment. Here the reverse is happening.It does not fit the anti-Arab propaganda campaign.

Apr. 22 2013 01:07 PM
Jf from Reality

Put a frog in hot water, it will jump out. Put it in cold water and heat it up slowly the frog will get cooked without noticing.

Apr. 22 2013 12:50 PM

Please ask if he is a mentally ill patient and if legally that affords him certain considerations. Also, unless his citizenship is stripped, are these considerations irrevocable?

Apr. 22 2013 11:29 AM

If just the religion of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were different - if he were a lifelong Christian -- no one would be talking about international terrorism, let alone suggesting circumventing his Miranda rights. How is this permissible?

Apr. 22 2013 11:29 AM

Does the fact that the kid tried to commit suicide at the end there entitle him to plea insanity?

Apr. 22 2013 11:24 AM

Will the prosecution fall apart if it is found out that the kid had given up and then was shot in the face by some eager SWAT enforcer?

Apr. 22 2013 11:22 AM

Will there be any repercussions for law enforcement/media if it is ever found that they lied or they shot the kid in the face when he was unarmed?

Apr. 22 2013 11:16 AM
mick from Inwood

Bloomberg Business On Line has posted an article that lists some of the bizarre coincidences and unanswered questions about this case. What they don't mention are the interviews from WGBH with people who knew the younger suspect in high school and from the neighborhood. These make even less sense as they knew him as an ordinary but high achieving student athlete. I think the country needs a lot of these questions answered.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-22/boston-hero-looked-guy-with-bag-straight-in-the-eyes.html

Apr. 22 2013 11:16 AM
francyne pelchar from Pelham Bay Park

this should have no influence on immigration legislation. the terrorists came here when they were children, ten years ago.

Apr. 22 2013 10:47 AM
NB from brooklyn

I wonder how many other people are turning off their radios right now.
Come On WNYC, there's only so much postulating we can listen to.. its sickening.

Apr. 22 2013 10:41 AM
francyne pelchar from Pelham Bay Park

I don't care about the terrorist's rights. When they set those bombs, they blew up their rights. Send him to Guantanamo, rip out his fingernails and apply any other advanced interrogation techniques to get this rat to start talking/writing. These terrorists had backers. Someone paid their rent, car payments, grocery bills. A guy selling dope on the scale to meet all these bills and then some would've come on law enforcement radar.
It's good to know he may never speak again, but sad to know that Mass. has no death penalty.

Apr. 22 2013 10:41 AM

Martin, A demagogue is a demagogue. It's not Islam that's bad. It's a radica's pimping of it that's tragic.

Apr. 22 2013 10:37 AM
Pam

What about "conspirators" who've were arrested during the manhunt?

Apr. 22 2013 10:34 AM
Pam

john from office: If they won't read him his rights, there's no guarantee that they will be able to introduce in court evidence from interviews.

Apr. 22 2013 10:32 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

Instead of getting angry at Boston authorities for the lock down ...... be angry at the Islamic Jihadist promoters around the world for making death an attraction for young Muslim men.

Apr. 22 2013 10:31 AM
jawbone

I saw a YouTube video of police surrounding a house during the shut down and search. When a guy answered the knock on the door, he was ordered out with his arms raised. On the porch he lowered his arms and was ordered to keep them up...all at gunpoint. Eventually, others were ordered out of the house, all with their hands up and them told to go to a far corner where other police watched them -- with guns at ready.

Is this search without a warrant?

Is this practice for making us more compliant with militarized policing?

Apr. 22 2013 10:30 AM
superf88

a good lesson in transparency.

the government very quickly made an internally controversial decision to release information that relied on the intelligence and diligence of the general public, and the result was, to use a Bush term, a quick and decisive victory.

Apr. 22 2013 10:28 AM

Lenore
didn't you hear? medias job is now to spread rumors.
i first noticed this durning the newtown shooting.
sorry the rush to get on the air requires lies and rumors to also be put out there

Apr. 22 2013 10:27 AM
RUCB_Alum from Central New Jersey

Domestic or foreign-born terrorism?

Saying that the FBI dropped the ball presumes a lot. I think they emigrated with every intent of joining in but became disaffected by American action during GWOT. My working theory is that Tamerlan's own feelings of inferiority AND the interview by the FBI pushed him to become more radical. "They think I am a terrorist? I'll show them what a terrorist does!"

What these guys did was inhuman and beyond comprehension but we created the these guys. The survivor needs to be tried and punished.

Apr. 22 2013 10:26 AM
jawbone

Oops. Politico reported that the FBI had been in contact with Tamerlan when he returned from Russia in July of 2012.

Per the mother.

Apr. 22 2013 10:26 AM
fuva from harlemworld

They not only "had a car", they had "nice" cars. There are reports of Dzhokhar retrieving HIS Mercedes from a mechanic after the bombing. (Guess they carjacked to prevent being tracked?)

Apr. 22 2013 10:25 AM
jawbone

In Politico, iirc, it was reported that the mother said her oldest son, Tamerlan, was in contact with the FBI for the past 5 years (also partly from RT).
The FBI called or visited the mother before she went back to Russia and stayed in contact with the older son.

The mother also said that the older son called her and said they were set up, that the FBI called Tamerlan on Thursday and asked hinm to come in for an interview -- he told them to come to him. Then he called his wife to say he was driving his 19 year old brother to back to school (on Thursday!).

This has not been mentioned on the MCM (Mainstream Corporate Media) here much, if at all.

Apr. 22 2013 10:25 AM
Robert from NYC

I can't believe you asked why the marathon and not another venue!! And I especially can't believe this Bostonian doen't konw why either and said it's not a political event?! Uh, Pattiot's Day? The day the American Revolution started? Uh, think! Does that make some kind of political statement? The anniversary of the American Revolution. T-H-E A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N R-E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N anniversary. Does that sound political? Hullo-o!

Apr. 22 2013 10:24 AM
Pam

What about other arrestees in Watertown?

Apr. 22 2013 10:24 AM
Lenore from Manhattan

Brian, you're just spreading rumors--did you hear this, did you hear that? That's not helpful.

Apr. 22 2013 10:22 AM
Andrew from home, NYC

Why are we making this such a big story. Please. Without the media, this is not such a big story. Why are we not talking about 5 people killed in Seattle overnight or 15 people killed in Texas.

Media is the friend of terrorists because it spreads the impact way beyond the physical.

Apr. 22 2013 10:22 AM
fuva from harlemworld

The attractiveness of the marathon as a target seems somewhat obvious to me. It's an open air event with less, if any, bomb detectors that are usually deployed in stadia, on metro systems, etc.

And I don't think the lockdown was a total failure. It's a tactic for which pros and cons must be weighed based on the circumstances. One question, from a civil liberties perspective, is whether or not such a thing can be mandatory. In any case it must be done completely transparently, with constant information.

Apr. 22 2013 10:22 AM
bernie from bklyn,ny

the lack of real journalism in this case and everything else is shocking....really is.

Apr. 22 2013 10:22 AM
Lenore from Manhattan

The TV coverage of the lockdown was an added benefit for the jihadi sites, just as the unexpected collapse of the towers was an added benefit for September 11. That is, they want the visuals of the US in trouble, empty streets, etc. to give them a propaganda victory. The point about the marathon finish line being on TV seems spot on to me.

Apr. 22 2013 10:21 AM
The Truth from Becky

5th Amendment rights from that same constitution that holds the 2nd Amendment rights to all America Citizens. *smirk*

Apr. 22 2013 10:20 AM
Hal from Brooklyn

He should be read his rights. The case is strong enough. Try him the right way and send him up the river.
Also, they didn't leave Boston because they believed they would not be caught. What else could it be? Only when they realized the heat was on did they try to flee.

Apr. 22 2013 10:20 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

The FBI has become terminally infected by political correctness.
This is a huge story.

"Don't single out Muslims." LOL

Apr. 22 2013 10:20 AM

John, It's not "suspects rights", it's the 5th amendment.

Apr. 22 2013 10:18 AM
The Truth from Becky

The seven eleven story just another in a whole slew of mis reported events - sort it all out then tell us about it later!

Apr. 22 2013 10:18 AM
antonio from bayside

Could the guests answer the following?
Why did the bombers stick around?
Why would the brothers devolve so quickly? At the very least the younger brother was in college, and in every report was described as a social, happy person that appeared to have everything to live for...They did not spend years in some training camp...
This is very strange...

Apr. 22 2013 10:16 AM

Good points on the overreach of the police state measures...way too much, and way too many constitutional rights abused. Globe guy to say that it worked so its ok is a shameful statement. MSM like this is part of the problem.

Apr. 22 2013 10:15 AM
RUCB_Alum from Central New Jersey

The GOP has already used the Marathon Bombing to punk the nation, i.e. Universal Background Checks filibuster. Now they want to derail action on immigration...Anything to maintain the status quo that keeps the middle and lower tier earners being ripped off by the idle rich.

Apr. 22 2013 10:15 AM
john from office

The ACLU, true to form, comes out in favor of the "suspects" rights. There is a circle of hell for ACLU attorneys.

Apr. 22 2013 10:15 AM
Bo from Granville

Borrowed from Facebook: I don't want to know his name. I don't want to see his face. I don't want to know his life's history, his back-story, who his family is, where he went to school, or what he liked to do in his spare time. I don't want to know what "cause", if any, he was fighting for. I don't want to know why he did it, or may have done it, or what possessed him to carry out his actions. I don't want to know. Because that's what he really wants. I'll be damned if I'm going to give him what he wants.

Put him on trial, but don't cover it. Tell me when you decide to jail him for three lifetimes - because that number matters. That's the number of lives he has to now pay for. That's all I want to know about him. Nothing else.

Instead, tell me about the first responders who ran towards the fray, within seconds, fearless. Tell me about the ones wearing the yellow volunteer jacket, or the neon police vest, or even the ones in the regular everyday t-shirt who became a helper. Tell me the story about the first responder who held gauze over a wound until they made it to the hospital. Tell me the story about the volunteer who held the hand of the injured spectator until they got into the ambulance. In six months, tell me the story of those who lost a limb, who beat the odds, pulled through countless surgeries, and are learning to walk again. Tell me the story about the love, the compassion, and the never-ending support of thousands, millions, of people who support the victims here. Tell me their stories. Tell me everything you can, because they are the ones that matter. Tell me of the good that they have done, are doing, and will continue to do, regardless of... No, not regardless of, in spite of. In spite of that someone who would do them harm. Because that's what freedom in this country means. It means coming together in the hardest of times, even in the face of unfathomable adversity, to make life better for all those around us.

Tell me the good stories. That's all I want to hear. Please like and share!

Apr. 22 2013 10:02 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

..."how DC is reacting: from debate over whether to treat him as an "enemy combatant" to what the incident may mean for immigration legislation."

Blah,blah,blah. Good heavens, Brian, this was the (ad nauseum) major discussion on all 5 network Sunday morning blab fests with dozens of senators, congresspeople and talking heads saying the same things. (Peter King, the human pinata.) Think of something new.

LOL, why not give Anthony Romero another 15 seconds of fame on your show ... he emerged out of well deserved obscurity to become a headliner on radio news with the first issue.

Apr. 22 2013 09:39 AM

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