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Thursday, October 09, 2008

Politifact's Bill Adair, the weekly guest until Election Day, brings his Truth-O-Meter to fact-check some recent campaign claims.

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Bill Adair

Comments [19]

Stunna1 from atlanta,ga

McCain's blunder on the $700 billion just denonstrates his overall ineptness to communicate effectively with the public. If we are already dealing with these type of mistakes now, his election as president will be telling!

Oct. 09 2008 07:16 PM
mc from Brooklyn

Re: $700 billion for terrorists, I think people are confusing the two $700 billions, which is understandable. The numbers are the same, but one is obviously the bailout number and the other is the amount the US spends to import energy. The government cannot directly control the amount spent on imports. The other forgotten fact, that someone pointed out here the other day, I think it was barry, is that the main suppliers of energy to the US are Canada and Mexico, hardly foreign terrorists. Saudi Arabia -- you could argue some of this money goes to terrorists -- competes for third place with Venezuala.

Oct. 09 2008 12:28 PM
APP from New Jersey

The Hayden Planetarium at the American Museum of Natural History in New York spent a similar amount of money ($3.5 million) for its projector upgrade during renovations in the 1990s. Hayden's new one is a Zeiss Mark IX; Adler has a Zeiss Mark VI installed in the 1960s for which parts and service are no longer available from the manufacturer. I think there were federal funds involved with the Hayden renovation as well, I'd like to see that confirmed.

See also:

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/08/mccains-planetariophobia

http://tinyurl.com/49243f

Oct. 09 2008 11:30 AM
Benjy Bernhardt from New York

re: post 11- I work at the Hayden Planetarium and am familiar with the theatre in question in Chicago, $3 million is entirely in line for the renovation the Adler needs.

Oct. 09 2008 11:15 AM
John from Jersey City, NJ

The “$700 billion to terrorists” comment is included in the commission on presidential debates transcript.
http://www.debates.org/pages/trans2008c.html

Oct. 09 2008 11:12 AM
hjs from 11211

alex 10
amen brother!

Oct. 09 2008 11:10 AM
John from Jersey City, NJ

I found the McCain Terrorist comment on the CNN transcript of the debate:

...and I know how to fix this economy, and eliminate our dependence on foreign oil, and stop sending ***$700 billion a year overseas.***

(later)

Brokaw: The three -- health care, energy, and entitlement reform: Social Security and Medicare. In what order would you put them in terms of priorities?

McCain: I think you can work on all three at once, Tom...

...We can work on nuclear power plants. Build a whole bunch of them, create millions of new jobs. We have to have all of the above, alternative fuels, wind, tide, solar, natural gas, clean coal technology. All of these things we can do as Americans and we can take on this mission and we can overcome it.

My friends, some of this ***$700 billion*** ends up in the hands of terrorist organizations.

Oct. 09 2008 11:08 AM
Megan Daily from Princeton Jct NJ

re: McCain 700 billion debate comment

I heard McCain say the same thing-- I was in the car and I called my husband saying "WHAT did he just say???" My husband said, "oh he must have been talking about the oil money" but he SAID it in response to a comment on the bailout.

When I got home I tried to find a reference to it online without success-- I was glad to hear it mentioned on the show and am looking forward to hearing some explanation-- why would this not be in the transcript???

Megan in NJ

Oct. 09 2008 11:03 AM
Sarah from Princeton

Regarding Obama's "overhead projector," if it's anything like the system at New York's Hayden Planetarium, $1 million is within reasonable limits - a former co-worker of mine is a programmer at the Hayden, and the projections are generated by a multi-processor graphics supercomputing system. Though increases in PC capabilities make such systems diminishingly necessary, prices in the hundreds of thousands for systems used in making commercials or such "on-the-fly" animations are quite standard in the industry.

Oct. 09 2008 11:01 AM
Alex from brooklyn


I go the last word of the hour over the air via my comment here!

What more proof that it is worth commenting online could anyone need?

Oct. 09 2008 10:59 AM
Ralph Linsker from Westchester NY

Re: the caller who said that part of the $700B bailout is funding terrorism: The actual McCain statement was that we spend $700B on foreign oil, and that some of that money goes to fund terrorism. Not (as Adair thought) that those oil states are terrorist states.

Oct. 09 2008 10:58 AM
Lonnie from Brooklyn

re- McCain's Terrorist remark
That's great-- so now we can't trust the transcripts!! It used to be that a Transcript was the FINAL objective proof. No more. Keep your DVR's running people!

Oct. 09 2008 10:58 AM
hjs from 11211

alex
that's how i remember it also

Oct. 09 2008 10:57 AM
Brigid from 11103

I think what that woman was just referring to McCain saying was actually the $700 billion we spend on OIL that funds terrorism. My initial reaction was that the $700 billion had to be referring to the bailout, but I realized that's also the number he uses for our spending on oil. He didn't specify WHAT $700 billion, he just said the number, so it did wind up sounding like he was talking about the bailout.

Oct. 09 2008 10:57 AM
L from Manhattan

On the NYTimes transcript

MCCAIN: The three priorities were health...

BROKAW: The three -- health care, energy, and entitlement reform: Social Security and Medicare. In what order would you put them in terms of priorities?

MCCAIN: I think you can work on all three at once, Tom. I think it's very important that reform our entitlement programs.

My friends, we are not going to be able to provide the same benefit for present-day workers that we are going -- that present-day retirees have today. We're going to have to sit down across the table, Republican and Democrat, as we did in 1983 between Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill.

I know how to do that. I have a clear record of reaching across the aisle, whether it be Joe Lieberman or Russ Feingold or Ted Kennedy or others. That's my clear record.

We can work on nuclear power plants. Build a whole bunch of them, create millions of new jobs. We have to have all of the above, alternative fuels, wind, tide, solar, natural gas, clean coal technology. All of these things we can do as Americans and we can take on this mission and we can overcome it.

****MCCAIN: My friends, some of this $700 billion ends up in the hands of terrorist organizations.****

As far as health care is concerned, obviously, everyone is struggling to make sure that they can afford their premiums and that they can have affordable and available health care. That's the next issue.

Oct. 09 2008 10:56 AM
Alex from brooklyn


McCain DID spike about some of $700B going to those who hate us/terrorists organizations. But that was not the bailout $700B.

He was talking about the $700B that we spend on foreign energy. Perhaps he got the two $700B confused.

Oct. 09 2008 10:55 AM
Dylan from Astoria

How is telling oil companies to use the land they already have a false statement. Sure it takes a while to get permits and to explore, but so would offshore drilling. I could see the 63 million acres as an overstatement.

Oct. 09 2008 10:54 AM
Protagoras from Chicago

The "overhead projector" in question is for the Adler planetarium in Chicago is the entire system that projects the stars. It is not your school's kind.

Oct. 09 2008 10:53 AM
Chuck Renaud from Brooklyn

The Palins’ un-American activities?

“My government is my worst enemy. I’m going to fight them with any means at hand.”

The quote is from Joe Vogler, the raging anti-American who founded the Alaska Independence Party. Inconveniently for Palin, that’s the very same secessionist party that her husband, Todd, belonged to for seven years and that she sent a shout-out to as Alaska governor earlier this year. “Keep up the good work,” Palin told AIP members, “And God bless you.” AIP chairwoman Lynette Clark told me recently that Sarah Palin is her kind of gal. “She’s Alaskan to the bone…she sounds just like Joe Vogler.”

Oct. 09 2008 09:55 AM

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