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Feet In Two Worlds

Thursday, September 25, 2008

Aswini Anburajan, a reporter and an editor for Feet in Two Worlds, a project of the Center for New York City Affairs at the New School, discusses the campaign and the Latino vote with Pilar Marrero, a reporter and columnist for the La Opinión, a Spanish-language daily newspaper in Los Angeles.

Anburajan and Marrero will also participate at a town hall meeting today that will discuss what the top issues and priorities for today’s immigrant voters are right now.

Guests:

Aswini Anburajan and Pilar Marrero

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Comments [71]

Richard from Texas

I personally would vote for a black man, if he wasn't the wrong man.

Sep. 27 2008 06:48 PM
Ben from Long Island

Let's see if I have this right: McCain, who was burned in the Savings and Loan debacle (A result of deregulation), who served through the deregulated Dot Com debacle, Who admitted that he does not really understand economics, who, a week before the banking collapse, assured the nation that our economic system is fundamentally sound, who apparently has learned nothing except how to raise campaign funds,now insists that he must be present in DC to help solve the crises. And, people believe him. I think there are a number of voters who will rationalize anything to feel comfortable about voting for the white man, not the right man.

Sep. 26 2008 11:37 AM
Jenny from Manhattan

Brian,
I want to clear up two unerreported/myths:

1)College-educated voters vote in greater numbers for the GOP in presidential elections (since 1980), according to background analysis given in the Washington Post story yesterday on their polling results.

"No Democrat has carried white, college-educated voters in presidential elections dating back to 1980, but they were a key part of Obama's coalition in the primaries."

That surprised me, especially since the GOP often refers to the Democrats as "elitists" (I believe GOP voters are richer, too). If the Washington Post reporter was correct, then the myth should be corrected/examined.

One of your guests (or one of the callers?) said the opposite, once again repeating the myth without being corrected or questioned.

2) Women now overwhelmingly favor Obama.

This was not mentioned on TV and radio when reporting on the latest polls, and it was buried in this article, because most want to report on Palin's favorable ranking among women, which is a different question than who they will vote for. Here's the quote:

"Overall, Obama and McCain are tied among men in the new poll, while Obama has opened up a sizable lead among women."

Here's the url for the article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/23/AR2008092303667.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2008092303897&s_pos=

Sep. 25 2008 01:28 PM
seth from Long Island

#64 NPV

I never claimed Democrats were blameless. Don't put words in my mouth and I won't put words in your mouth.
You are the epitome of ignorance for presuming that you can read my mind.
John McCain is a snake oil salesman and I'm not buying his phony baloney country first routine.

Sep. 25 2008 11:58 AM
Jim in Manhattan from Manhattan

ON THE POINT ABOUT OPPOSING YOUR PARTY TO DEMONSTRATE POST-PARTISANSHIP:

it is not about abandoning your beliefs or abandoning your party.

The hyper partisanship is not about issues. It is about the red-meat provocation of the public; it is about walking away from governing and toward just attacking; it is about keeping people in a state of rage rather than finding the best of all of us and the best for America.

It is ridiculous to judge Obama on whether or not he has agreed with key Dem policies. He is the grown-up in the race who is speaking and acting in tones that are not exclusive. His positions on the Second Amendment, on emphasizing the values of Life, of a flexible energy policies -- even his willingness to listen to the public and evolve his policies -- that TONE and respect and strategic direction is what is Post-Partisan.
Both Obama and McCain were the least ideological of the candidates in their two parties; it was the public, especially with McCain, who made them the candidates, not the party tacticians. Now, McCain is becoming all about tactics, Rovian tactics. His better half is post-partisan. But his fighter-jock, impetuous side, this person is not post-partisan but all about himself.
That kind of maverick behavior is not about independences, it is about being self-consumed, winning at all cost. Link bush, another fighter pilot.

Sep. 25 2008 11:49 AM
dave from Brooklyn

Could someone explain what is to be gained by playing to some apathetic voter group who clearly have not been paying attention to what has been going on in the past at least 30 years?

I can understand conservatives clinging to their flawed ideology more than I can understand someone being non-partisan these days.

Sep. 25 2008 11:47 AM
Daphne Kis from New York, NY

Please ask you fact-checker to report on what was Palin's spending for special needs chidlren and students as governor.

Sep. 25 2008 11:45 AM
NPV from sea Cliff, N.Y.11579

Hey SETH , You are the epitome of ignorance. The sub-prime mortgage disaster by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was caused by mostly by Democrats and in the corporate arena i.e. AIG, Lehman Bros,and Golman Sachs committed gross behavior. These people need to indicted for their misdeeds. Keep in mind that Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson was the former chariman and CEO of Goldman Sachs. To blame the president and to use name calling tells me you are nothing but a big cry baby. 700 Billion dollars is a huge amount of money and the entire economy of the U.S. is at stake. Postponing the debate until Monday or Tuesday is totally acceptable.
Obamahas has responsibility as the senator of illinois to show up and do some work for a change!!!!!!!!!!

Sep. 25 2008 11:39 AM
Tony from Brooklyn

The comments on this board show just how complex the economic crisis is. There's the usual partisan hyperbole, but I've never seen anything on this board so horribly misunderstood. The loans that Fannie and Freddie hold are among the creme of the crop of loans. What's created this crisis is the new mortgage products created by a greedy unregulated mortgage industry to fleece people who were frankly in way over their heads. Then more greedy individuals seized the opportunity in a deregulated environment to create complex securities based not only on these flawed loans, but also on insuring these complex loans. The mortgages were at the bottom of this ponzi scheme, but the whole house of cards crashed because of the $45TRILLION(!!!) of credit default swaps on top of it. How did it happen, in short: deregulation. There's one candidate who has sung the praises of deregulation since his days as a member of the Keating Five. And it's understandable why he supports deregulation. It benefits his friends, his contributors and his aides...handsomely. The prospect of having this particular fox in the henhouse should frighten us all. He should show up for the debate if only to keep him away from Washington.

Sep. 25 2008 11:36 AM
Liz Marinello from NJ

I appreciate the concept of the Brian Adair segment but find it difficult to listen to his responses.....Is he multi-tasking and not focusing, causing Brian to finish his sentences, or suggest the word he's seeking. He is, after all, the expert on the show.
Thanks.

Sep. 25 2008 11:31 AM
Jan from New York

A claim to bipartisanship is a meaningless marketing term. A call to "come together as Americans" misses the point, because obviously there will always be disagreement on HOW to come together, on how to solve a crisis, on how to balance a budget.

On a sidenote: I think people calling for more bipartisanship (or similarly, for a multi-party parliamentary system) do not know what they ask for. Take a look at the inertia and paralysis of the European parliament for a preview...

Sep. 25 2008 11:23 AM
Repub101 from Manhattan

Let's not forget that they are both Senators. Their primary jobs are to pass legislation. As presidential candidates, they are now essentially the unofficial leaders of their respective parties. Don't underestimate the power of their influence and participation in the Senate at this particular point in time. Their participation and leadership in this crisis is arguably critical.

Don't accuse me of naivete without considering your own jaded and prejudiced viewpoint. As though Obama has never taken an opportunity to seize a political advantage. Who's really naive here?

Sep. 25 2008 11:23 AM
Robert from New York

Brian,

Why do YOU need to accommodate the extreme right? The caller just now made absurd comments about Obama and you immediately (and correctly) set the record straight -- but then felt the need to EXPLAIN WHY you were setting the record straight. Almost apologetically. This has been a depressing trend on your show (as it has been in the MSM): the need to find a MIDWAY POINT between positions, regardless of the respective merits.

Sep. 25 2008 11:17 AM
KC from NYC

Repub: again: prioritize what, exactly? A White House photo op? You still seem to think that he's going to show up at the 11th hour and re-write the proposal, an impossibility, even if he wanted to, which he clearly doesn't. So how is he "helping"? Honestly, please explain.

Sep. 25 2008 11:05 AM
LJo from Westchester

I agree with those who believe that McCain just doesn't want to debate & sees an excuse to duck it.

Sep. 25 2008 10:54 AM
Kevin Mac from Merrick

Amazing. Chris Dodd and Barney Frank (heads of their respective financial committees) are overseeing this whole financial disaster bailout. Perhaps if they had been paying attention back in 2003 when the current administration (no, I'm not a Republican) tried to put the brakes on FNMA and Freedie they wouldn't have stonewalled. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

Sep. 25 2008 10:44 AM
seth from Long Island

Hey Sen. McCain,
Can we postpone the Earth's revolution around the Sun until Congress has approved a bailout package?

Sep. 25 2008 10:38 AM
Tim Young from Manhattan

This is time for debate! What's McCain want to do, push the faulty legislation through before the weekend? We need to know right now what the two candidates are thinking and what they want to do.

To me the obvious spin on 'suspend the campaign' is just more politics as usual. let's have some clarity here!

Sep. 25 2008 10:35 AM
Repub101 from Manhattan

KC, obviously this is an election. I didn't say that this move by McCain was free from any political motivation. Actually, NOT ONLY was it a brilliant political move, forcing Obama to respond, but it ALSO shows his ability to prioritize. Deal with crises before talking about them. So, no, I'm not a 10-year old, and I don't quite understand the need to personally attack me when we are discussing issues on this board. Maybe YOU should grow up.

Sep. 25 2008 10:35 AM
JOB from NYC

Hey, let's postpone the election too! How about the war in Iraq - can they stop fighting for a bit while McCain gathers his thoughts.

Sep. 25 2008 10:31 AM
Alex from brooklyn


How might postponing the debate help McCain?

* Keeps the foreign policy debate more focused on foreign policy -- McCain's supposed strength -- and less distracted by economic issues -- McCain's supposed weakness.

* Prevents coverage of the debate in following days from being buried under all the coverage of the bailout.

* Prevents McCain from having being questioned about his own views on the bailout bill before he deflect those questions by saving "I support the bipartisan compromise, and don't want to say anything that might undermine the confidence of the American people in its wisdom."

* Possibly makes McCain look like he is putting country before self.

* Possibly breaks Obama's momentum.

* Possibly forces a delay in the VP debate -- giving Palin more prep time.

In the utter absence of any reasoning that explains how McCain's presence in DC or postponing the debate might help solve this crisis, isn't it clear that he is doing this for naked partisan reason?

Sep. 25 2008 10:30 AM
Tony from Brooklyn

This is an obvious attempt by the McCain campaign at damage control. If it weren't for his desperate attempt to avoid the debate yesterday we'd all be talking about how a top campaign aide's company was lobbying on behalf of Freddie Mac as recently as last month. Or we might be talking about how Sarah Palin has been sequestered from the press as if the campaign believes they all have ebola virus. Or we might be talking about how this whole crisis was created by the deregulation that John McCain and many of his aides have vocally supported for years. But instead we're talking about his generous contribution to the resolution of this crisis as if it weren't an obvious strategic move. I commend the McCain campaign for that. It's a smart move.
In the next day we'll no doubt hear the McCain campaign lobby to have the debate pushed into next week, and have the VP debate cancelled. She's served her purpose by rallying the base, but actually allowing her to speak is a huge liability for the campaign. She can't see Wall St. from her front porch.

Sep. 25 2008 10:30 AM
seth from Long Island

John McCain is the George Costanza of the Republican Party.

Sep. 25 2008 10:30 AM
Anita Brandariz from Brooklyn, NY

It would appear that Mr McCain cannot walk and chew gum at the same time.

Sep. 25 2008 10:29 AM
KC from NYC

Repub101: If you're not a ten-year-old, and you seriously think McCain did this so that he could ride into Washington and "straighten this all out", I admire your child-like faith.

You could use just the tiniest bit of skepticism, though.

Sep. 25 2008 10:29 AM
Graham from Paris


I find this entire matter incredibly foolish and certainly unworthy of the _focus_ which the press is putting on the discussion--- the absurd second-guessing of a transparent ploy, the silly make-believe posturing of being "fair and balanced" in the face of a man (McCain) talking of being "non partisan" even as he makes a partisan ploy of the situation.

The press--WNYC included---has lent itself to another colossal episode of the political class abusing the American public.

The entire matter is insulting to at least a few Americans' intelligence. The question remains: How many?

Sep. 25 2008 10:27 AM
AWM from UWS

HELLO!

The point of that ad was to get McCain to denounce something Limbaugh said, exasperating an already tenuous relationship.

Sep. 25 2008 10:26 AM
Repub101 from Manhattan

I love how so many have been complaining about the state of the economy, and yet when someone (MCCAIN) wants to actually work to deal with it, people start crying out about a debate! Friday is not the only time we will ever hear them debate each other. If McCain is the "coward" here, why did he invite Obama to several Townhall meetings throughout the summer? Obama ignored each and every one of these invitations. McCain is fully prepared to engage in a debate any time, but sometimes you have to take action, not just talk.

Sep. 25 2008 10:24 AM
Sean Pisano from Brooklyn

I guess every time the country is in trouble we should stop what we are doing and have a meeting. Sounds like McCain can't handle all the countries problems at once.

Sep. 25 2008 10:24 AM
Kai from NYC

No one from Congress asked McCain to enter into discussion with either the Senate or the House. Everyone on the the Hill and in the US knows that McCain can provide nothing to any discussion about the financial meltdown.

McCain is simply trying to pivot on the smart political move by Obama yesterday morning to issue a joint statement on the economic and financial crisis. McCain should give his views in the debate where his ideas are actually needed.

Sep. 25 2008 10:23 AM
Gregory from The Bronx

Why has there been no mention of McCain's affair in the Keating Five scandal? You know that if the situation were reversed the Republicans would be all over it like white on rice.

Sep. 25 2008 10:23 AM
seth from Long Island

John McCain's weasel move to get the debate cancelled is like Ralph Kramden in panic mode.

Another John McCain campaign slogan in honor of Ralph Kramden
HOMINA, HOMINA, HOMINA, HOMINA

Sep. 25 2008 10:23 AM
John W. Lowell from NYC

Note: McCain was NOT meeting with his economic advisors when Obama called. He was meeting with the former Clinton supporter who had just endorsed McCain.

And, of course, in his mad rush to get involved in the process, he did an interview with Katie Couric.

Sep. 25 2008 10:22 AM
benjoya from Brooklyn

does anyone know if mcCain supports bush's bailout plan? no one can seem to get an answer out of him!

Sep. 25 2008 10:22 AM
Alex from brooklyn


Can someone give a single reason why McCain's presence in Washington will help solve this problem?

Or, a single reason why "suspending [his] campaign" would help?

Of course not!

Sep. 25 2008 10:21 AM
Mateo from Newark

Abena...Great point.

Letterman's comments here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjkCrfylq-E

Sep. 25 2008 10:21 AM
Tam from brooklyn

Is McCain proposing he and Obama go back and "work" on the economy as senators? Or to collaborate with the administration against congress? How will they insert themselves in the process?

Sep. 25 2008 10:21 AM
Jim from Manhattan

I find it very troubling that McCain has on several occasions in the past couple of days tried his best to tie this financial crisis to the terror attacks on 9/11. This is a typical republican ploy...I, for one, am frankly tired of it.

Sep. 25 2008 10:20 AM
Mark from Manhattan

Typical right wing reaction to any "emergency". As Ghooliani 's whisperers also wanted to suspend the mayoral election in NYC after 911. The republicans are trying to suspend the democratic process to manipulate politics to their ends.

Sep. 25 2008 10:20 AM
Ralph from Bowery

Early voting has already begun. Ya can't postpone anything. Debates should have all been over before early voting even started. McCain is afraid to fall even further behind.

Sep. 25 2008 10:20 AM
Steve (the other one) from Manhattan

We are hosed (from Think Progress):

The Congressional Budget Office director yesterday told Congress that the proposed bailout may worsen the current financial crisis. “Ironically, the intervention could even trigger additional failures of large institutions, because some institutions may be carrying troubled assets on their books at inflated values,” Peter Orszag said. “Establishing clearer prices might reveal those institutions to be insolvent.”

Sep. 25 2008 10:20 AM
Abena

Dave letterman had a great comment on this postponement last night, saying that it showed the weakness of Palin as a vp pick, because if McCain has to be in Washington, why should he have to suspend the campaign if he had a strong VP who could continue running the campaign (showing executive leadership) while he handled the economic crisis in Washington

Sep. 25 2008 10:19 AM
Nicole

Is it possible that by "suspending" the campaign, McCain doesn't have to spend campaign money over the next few days?

Sep. 25 2008 10:19 AM
Inquiring Minds

This is in the Congressional Record-- McCain sought reform in 2006.

"I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.

I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation."

What did Obama do?

Sep. 25 2008 10:19 AM
Lorenzo from NJ/NY

"You could make the argument" but it would be a
silly one. The debate has nothing to do with the
effectiveness of Senate/Congress in dealing with the bailout.

Sep. 25 2008 10:18 AM
elizabeth from brooklyn

NO!!!! Don't postpone, this is the PERFECT time for a debate.

Sep. 25 2008 10:18 AM
Mary

According to Chris Dodd, who has been working on this around the clock all week, this stunt is the first he has heard from McCain.

Thank goodness for Rachel Maddow.

Sep. 25 2008 10:17 AM
AWM from UWS

McCain wants to give the country a day off from the current McCain so he can return with yet another new version of McCain

Sep. 25 2008 10:17 AM
KC from NYC

McCain wants to cancel the debate? Oh, now I take this "economic meltdown" seriously.

It's amazing that he can pull these fear-mongering shenanigans and still, in the mainstream media, he's the "maverick" "hero" who puts his country first. Cynical moves like this get portrayed as regrettable anomalies. At what point does the media start portraying this as what it is: a pattern of irresponsibility?

Sep. 25 2008 10:17 AM
burtnor from upper west side

Postpone the debate?!!! Why on earth would we do that??!! McCain has shown absolutely no interest in the economic crisis for the past 10 days; there is no reason he needs to rush to DC to pretend he is going to be our savior now. They just want to work the schedule to eliminate the Palin-Biden debate. McCain's campaign even floated the idea of moving his first debate to the VP debate date --then I'm sure they will just be too busy to reschedule hers. CRAZY if we let them get away with that! Besides, I want to hear them debate NOW when we need to hear from them. What better forum than in front of 100 million people!

Sep. 25 2008 10:16 AM
chris feldmann from brooklyn

Um, wasn't that Tucker Bounds on the Takeaway this morning? Advocating for McCain? Isn't that campaigning?

Sep. 25 2008 10:16 AM
Inquiring Minds

Do you think Obama is going to say anything Friday that he hasn't had an opportunity to say now.

OBAMA HAS NO PLAN.

He counts only on vitriol.

Sep. 25 2008 10:15 AM
seth from Long Island

John McCain's new campaign slogan:
Stop the World, I Want To Get Off

#8 Inquring Minds

John "You Will Know Their Names" McCain can run, but he can't hide

Sep. 25 2008 10:14 AM
chelsea maruskin from nyc

I think Palin should step in to McCains place as she would have to if she were vice president.

Sep. 25 2008 10:14 AM
Kevin Mac from Merrick

I think the campaign should most certainly be suspended for a few days so McCain and Obama can actually go to work for a few days and actually do the job they are both currently being paid to do.The debate can wait a few days. Besides, I think we can all use a few days off from all the ridiculously biased reporting. I'm getting a headache.

Sep. 25 2008 10:14 AM
Mateo from Newark

It is insulting that the McPain ticket is so cynically manipulating this crisis.

Between Palin's strict adherence to her script of tautologies and McCain's wildly inconsistent and impulsive behavior, how can anybody, Hispanic, Black, White, Asian, Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Ba'hai, Athiest or Martian think these two people are what this country needs most?

Sep. 25 2008 10:14 AM
Robert from Manhattan

A cynic would say that, given McCain's demonstrated shakiness on the issues surrounding the economy, he is afraid to say a thing until there is a deal in place that he can either praise (and take credit for) or denounce.

Obama is right. Let's hear the candidates' thoughts now, when it matters.

Sep. 25 2008 10:13 AM
Kim Dobson from Ramsey, NJ

McCain is trying to look presidential, but he's just looking old and confused. World politics don't stop because there's a domestic crisis, and I want a president who can multi-task.

Don't delay the debates!

Sep. 25 2008 10:13 AM
AWM from UWS

Let's not forget his first frantic example of "leadership" during a crisis. In the midst of the turmoil (that he was slow to recognize) he said the SEC chairman should be fired. Is that really the most constructive action to take in that situation? Not to mention the fact that he didn't know that the president can't fire the SEC chairman.

Sep. 25 2008 10:13 AM
Peter from Flatbush, Brooklyn

I fthere is such urgency, why not return to washington ASAP, whay stay for th CGI?
This is as reports are ongoing that Rep Frank and Sen Dodd are working on a deal that is progressing, and the White House is bending to demands including CEO pay limits - its even on Drudge & McCain isnt in DC Yet.
McCain is playing a game. Any questions - look at sen Grahm saying they should hold the presidential debate in lieu of the VP debate next week.
Mon-Wed is Rosh Hashana also, FYI.

Sep. 25 2008 10:12 AM
Susan from Kingston, New York

I agree, another McCain stunt! McCain like Bush, Paulsen, and Beranke must think that all of us are a bunch of chumps!

Sep. 25 2008 10:11 AM
Priya from Brooklyn

NPR news said that hosting the debate would cost Oxford MS 5 million dollars. If McCain doesn't make it his campaign should pay for the costs.

Obama should go regardless and use it as a forum to promote his ideas. McCain's loss, "you snooze, you loose."

He's late to the game- figuring out that there is a crisis and that this is a time when we want to hear from the candidates!

Sep. 25 2008 10:11 AM
StephanieH from brooklyn ny usa

It is unnecessary to cancel tomorrow's debate. One does not suspend the presidency to deal with a particular crisis -- why should Sen. McCain (a great proponent of deregulation!) choose to do so now with his campaign?! Ridiculous, the Sen. is not even a member of the Congressional committee dealing with the issue. This is just silly.
S/

Sep. 25 2008 10:11 AM
Inquiring Minds

@Seth

Funny. One guy is good at giving speeches. The other one has a long track record of forging bi-partisan compromise.

One wants to go help in Washington, as we stare into the eyes of a crisis which very well could lead to another Great Depression.

The other one wants to give a speech.

hmmmmm....

Sep. 25 2008 10:10 AM
shc from Manhattan

Of course the debate shouldn't be delayed. When the going gets tough, is the Presidency going to be suspended?

Sep. 25 2008 10:10 AM
tash from les

Does Congress actually work after 9pm on a Friday?

No McCain...you're not eligible for extra credit if you hand in your homework late.

Sep. 25 2008 10:10 AM
Mary

Why not let Biden and Palin have a go Friday night? Isn't that what VPs are for? Didn't Palin want to know what veeps are supposed to do?

Sep. 25 2008 10:09 AM
Lorenzo from NJ/NY

I'd like to postpone Christmas cause I know
that I won't have all of my gifts ready on the 25th.

Sep. 25 2008 10:09 AM
Fred Gooltz from UWS

McCain's stunt is pathetic. He panics and overreacts at things. He can't multitask.

No Senator has been more absent in the last 2 years except for the one who had a stroke. He is not in on the bailout bill's negotiation - he doesn't have a seat at the table.

He's avoiding the debate and trying to change the subject. Will the media be played or will they call him on it?

Sep. 25 2008 10:08 AM
DAVID from NYC

POLITICAL PLOY IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY?

Sep. 25 2008 10:07 AM
seth from Long Island

I’m a loyal American citizen, I always put my country first, but I DO NOT APPROVE OF John McCain’s message announcing the suspension of his campaign and requesting a postponement of his first debate with Barack Obama. I’m not buying the latest brand of snake oil that John McCain is selling.

John McCain is a coward.

Sep. 25 2008 10:03 AM

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