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Caltrain Engineer: Every Time I Go Past The Scene of a Fatality, It Plays Back Like a Video

Wednesday, June 27, 2012 - 10:51 AM

Caltrain station in San Francisco, photo by Julie Caine

In the past six weeks, five people have died on on Northern California's commuter rail tracks, hit by trains that could not stop in time to avoid them. Every year, an average of 12 people die on Caltrain tracks, and most are suicides. This is a small percentage of suicide deaths each year – only about one percent of suicides in the U.S. are by train.

Caltrain has built ten-foot fences along much of the route, commissioned studies about location and prevention, put up signs with suicide hotline numbers along its tracks, and partnered with mental health agencies. But the problem persists.

And not just on Caltrain. In 2011, 702 people died on train tracks nationwide. Suicides are a small percentage of these deaths, but they have serious emotional consequences – not only for the loved ones of the people who kill themselves, but for the men and women who drive and work on trains.

Charles is a locomotive engineer for Caltrain. That’s not his real name; he asked us not to use it. Charles is the one of people who drives the trains between San Jose and San Francisco. He’s been working on the railroad for more than 30 years, and for the most part he loves his job.

“I’ve tried to quit the railroad several times,” says Charles. “And I don’t know if it was in my blood, or…I’m a third generation railroader, so I was always pulled back to the railroad. I like the lifestyle. I like the money. I’ve raised a family on the railroad.”

But there’s a part of his job that never gets easier—witnessing people die under the wheels of his trains.

“I’ve had two since January first. That’s kind of high for me. I average one a year. You never know when it’s going to happen. You never know,” says Charles.

Train engineers like Charles may not know when it’s going to happen, but they do know that, sooner or later, it is going to happen. Trains aren’t like cars. They weigh 400 tons. You can’t just slam on the brakes and stop.

“The way I kind of look at it, the farther I am from my last one, the closer I am to my next one,” he says. “It’s almost like rolling the dice. It’s an awful tragedy.”

On Caltrain, a typical crew is made up of three people—the engineer, and two conductors, who work with passengers. When someone is hit, the conductors are the first people to go out on the tracks to find them. The engineer is usually the last to see the person alive.

“It's an interesting thing though how in the heat of the battle, we kind of go on automatic, and it don't sink in until we've been rescued from the scene and we're taken away,” says Charles. “I’ve seen people break down afterwards. You know, I want to break down. Sometimes my ego and my pride keep me from it, but inside I'm dying.”

When they’re first hired, crew members are told that bad things may happen on the tracks and any crew member involved in a death gets paid time off and access to counseling. But not everybody takes advantage of it. Laurie Richer is a clinical psychiatrist at University of California San Francisco. She says part of the problem is that this kind of emotional trauma isn’t necessarily something crews are trained to deal with.

“As opposed to first responders--EMS, paramedics, police--that come to a scene, they have some degree of emotional preparedness,” says Richer. “Whereas a train driver doesn't. So they're not trained or prepared, or it wasn't a motivation in choosing that line of work. So these tragedies happen to them right out of the blue.”

Richer says the emotional trauma that can result in Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). It’s something we often associate with soldiers coming home from war. Basically, when we’re in danger, our adrenaline kicks in and we go into survival mode. The problem is that once the danger has passed, we can get stuck in that heightened state—unable to stop reliving the trauma, unable to stop being on the lookout for more danger, and with a strong urge to avoid the place where the trauma happened.

That’s the problem for train crews—they can’t avoid the place where the death happened. And they can’t avoid the fact that another one could happen at any time.

“It’s difficult because every time I go past the scene of where I’ve had a fatality, it plays back like a video,” says Charles. “Your first nature is to crawl in your hole and just pull the covers over your head – and many people do that, you know. They don't answer the phone after that. And that's probably the worst thing you can do, cause you just sit there with that rolling around in your head. It just destroys your sleep for several days.”

Laurie Richer says the best thing you can do after a serious trauma is to reach out for help as soon as possible and talk about how you’re feeling.

“What that does is it validates the response,” says Richer. “It helps individuals realize that they're not alone in their response, that in fact it's more common than not to experience some of the symptoms of PTSD. And also, peers provide ideas for how they got support. And seeking help becomes more acceptable.”

Seeking—and giving—help is something Charles has learned how to do in his long career on the railroad. He talks to friends and a counselor, and makes it a point to reach out to other crew members who have experienced trauma.

“I don't get to spend too much time thinking about mine if I'm helping others, and that works for me,” says Charles. “Plus I have a great network of friends who support me. They prop me up when I can’t stand on my own. They help me through these difficult times. I’m really blessed. I feel like the luckiest man on earth sometimes.”

Charles doesn’t blame Caltrain for the deaths. Track fatalities are part of the job, he says, all over the world.

“Caltrain goes to great lengths to keep that from happening,” he says. “They have ten-foot fences along the whole line. It’s not because of any negligence. It would be nice to prevent all of it, but that's dreaming. But we're trying. And anything that we can do to have some kind of effect on it, if it saves one life, it's worth it. That's why I agreed to do this interview. If it saves one person from this, it's a wonderful thing, and I'm honored to be able to do it.”

On a warm Saturday afternoon in June, several thousand people are gathered at San Francisco’s Fort Mason.

It’s a sea of blue t-shirts. The back of each shirt reads: “I’ll be up all night for--” followed by a blank line. People have filled in the words: “I’ll be up all night for my mother, for my father, for my Uncle Tim.” Other people have written in names, followed by dates—dates of birth, and dates of death.

The annual Out of the Darkness walk is a suicide awareness event held in different cities around the country. This year, people spent all night walking the streets of San Francisco, raising money for suicide prevention and research. There are a lot of individuals, and a lot of families. And this year, there’s also a group of eight Caltrain staff members.

April Maguigad works in the operations department at Caltrain. She’s leading tonight’s Caltrain walkers.

“I just recently moved to the Bay Area from Virginia in January,” she says. “I think it was probably right around the third fatality that we had here at Caltrain since my moving here that I decided that I needed a way to cope and deal with it.”

Ted Yurek is also on the Caltrain team.

“We've kind of taken a position of instead of not talking about it, talking about it more,” says Yurek. “And hopefully this helps promote that point of view, that you should be more open about depression and suicide as things that happen.”

Since the night of the walk, the Caltrain team has raised $12,000 to help people who have lost loved ones to suicide. Donations are still coming in. Maguidad say the walk gives people a sense that there’s support––that there are people who understand what it’s like to go through a suicide, and who want to offer help.

“It is a sense of sadness that you know this is a person who has chosen quite a tragic way to end their life,” says Maguigad. “You wonder about their family, and you wonder about the people they're leaving behind. It's not just another delay, it's somebody's family member.”

If you, or someone you know, is in suicidal crisis or emotional distress please call 1-800-273-TALK (8255) right away. Help is there for you, and you are not alone. You can also read about suicide warning signs and prevention strategies here.

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Comments [6]

NeutronPulsar

We need BART around the bay area. BART is grade seperated and never has these issues. BART never causes added congestion as it crosses local city streets. I think its also a gross exageration to say all deaths are suicides. There have been many many throughout the nation of people just being reckless or inept and tragically caught on the tracks. BART has 10 times the ridership with 120 million riders a year. If BART ringed the bay it would double the ridership to 200million a year. Just a couple of stops in SF is more than CalTrain gets in a day. BART is a better model, baring the gauge issue but that can be solved too. BART is better technology (more like maglev) that is more stable in an earthquake and capable of better acceleration and deceleration. We need BART and stop the bloody duplicate caltrain! Or even a combination of the best parts of the two systems.

Dec. 30 2012 12:55 PM
Steve

Why idiots like big dan can find thirty ways to blame the victims (people who are just doing their jobs and those others who are traumatized and/or inconvenienced by atrack fatality) and not one jot of blame for the criminals who trespass on railroad property to achieve their own selfish goals. Yes, suicides are deserving of pity for the the suffering that must have driven them to take their lives, but I have nothing but scorn and anger for those who choose to make their "solution" everyone else's problem'

Jun. 29 2012 10:54 AM
mr b

Big Dan.... That is one big incoherent diatribe. Get a grip Man....

Jun. 28 2012 11:13 PM
Robert Pines

"""hit by trains that could not stop in time to avoid them""" What kind of special kind of dumb driver out-drive their sight stopping distance? Do they not realize the train brakes suck and they have no steering?

Does the media ever think
Hmmm
1. Why wasn't the train video camera paid for by the tax-payers not seized "immediately"by OUR cops and is being taken off the train by the RAILROAD?
2. Where is the railroad guy/gal going with that train event recorder with the train speed, lights, horns, brakes, etc...recorded?
3. Why is that railroad worker taking that box out of the signal house?
4. Why is that train crew not being tested for drugs/alcohol?
5. Where is the track video linked to the trains to compensate for the sight distance the train can't compensate for and get stopped?
6. Why under the trains there 100s of square feet to have better braking and there is not?
7. Why there is little fencing along tracks and no lookout towers along the tracks?
8. Why train stations don't have gates to open AFTER the train stops so people won't fall on the tracks?
9. Why trains go 50/6070/ mph through train stations/towns and they don't through railyards?
10. Why RR keep out signs are MILES apart in many places?
11. Why their had to be witnesses and never are against the railroad and our cops use railroads hear-say?
12. Why the railroad is allowed around the crime scene at all?
13. Why the railroads get to self-investigate and Jeffrey Dohmer wasn't allowed to?
14. Where the equipment the railroad removes after killing/ injuring someone goes?
15. Why we are paying the Federal Railroad Administration and the Federal Transit Administration millions and they never show up unless the media attention is beyond local level and the railroad needs a good cover story?
16. How the NTSB /FRA never finds fault with the railroads.
And on the phoney Operation Lifesaver/Officer on the Train stings ticketing everything in sight.
1. Why nothing is ever mentioned about any of the above?
2. Why nothing is mentioned about blind crossings?
3. Why nothing is mentioned about the missing signals at blind crossings?
4. Why the so-called Operation Lifesaver people are all ex-railroad or work for the state DOTs?
5. Why that train is just sitting there forcing the crossing signals to work DARING people to cross?
6. Why OLI never mentions train speeds which are set too high through populated areas?
7. Why OLI never mentions the highly toxic cargos of these train bombs going too fast?
8. How in the world the police can ticket the drivers for stopping behind the gate and not at the stripe on the street which is supposed to be 50 feet from the tracks?
9. Or if the driver needs to stop 50 feet away why isn't the gate 50 feet away from the tracks?
10. Why the railroads crossing signals fail Federal road standards that a signal has to give the drivers time to obey?
11. That the no green light(safe to proceed) and no yellow light (proceed with caution) on the decades old crossing equipment design are completely missing and the drivers are ticketed when the red comes on right in their face and they can't possible stop?
12. That the other 364 days a year the railroads do nothing to keep away people from the tracks and just on the day with media attention they become dirty rotten trespassers with un-Constitional high fines?
I DON'T GET IT BIG DAN

Jun. 28 2012 12:09 AM
Janet

I am terrified that I'll be on the train when it happens. I can only imagine what it would be like for the crew. Thank you for your service, Caltrain engineers and conductors.

Jun. 27 2012 08:04 PM
makfan

Thank you. I am a regular Caltrain rider. I feel terrible for the crews when something like this happens. Thanks for giving us some insight into their experiences.

Jun. 27 2012 11:25 AM

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