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RNC Coverage: Hour 2

Thursday, September 04, 2008

Peter Coy, economics editor for Business Week magazine, Aswini Anburajan, a reporter with Feet in Two Worlds, a project of the Center for New York City Affairs at the New School, and Jason Riley, member of the Wall Street Journal's editorial board and author of Let Them In: The Case for Open Borders , analyze the speeches, and talk about the Republican's economic and energy plans.

Then
Convention time means party time. Nancy Watzman heads up the Party Time project of the Sunlight Foundation. She dishes the details about the premiere Republican fetes.

Then
WNYC Meet the Delegates Series: Ben Horsley from Bountiful, UT


Then
Steven Waldman, Editor-in-chief and President of Beliefnet and Charles Dunn, Dean of Robertson School of Government at Regents University, discuss religion and the Republican party.

Guests:

Aswini Anburajan, Peter Coy, Charles Dunn, Ben Horsley, Jason Riley, Steven Waldman and Nancy Watzman
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Comments [40]

mc from Brooklyn

On the topic of families: I have no idea what Bristol Palin knew about birth control. I regret any accidental pregnancy and hope that Bristol Palin decided she wanted that baby. I also hope that these two teen-agers will get a lot of help from their extended family raising this child. Who am I to say what the "ideal" family looks like?

The flip side: Don't legislate against other kinds of families. That means that two moms are OK, two Dads are OK, one mom, one dad, one grandparent, uncles, aunts, whatever the structure is - as long as the children get the love and support they need. This is the hypocrisy: deciding for everyone else what kinds of families are OK.

Sep. 04 2008 01:33 PM
eva

hjs,
cool, have a good vacation!
All the rest of you who have expressed pure displeasure at watching Palin last night (totally understandable reaction)... please, please phone bank for Obama?
Pretty please?

Sep. 04 2008 01:19 PM
Voter from Brooklyn

And as much as I hate to say so, Governor Palin doesn’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to privacy. If she wants the media to stay out of her family’s business, then she needs to keep her family out of the media. If she doesn’t want Americans criticizing how she has mismanaged her family, then she doesn’t need to be a member of the party that tries to legislate what a family is and how one is to be managed. If she doesn’t want her daughters sex life to be vox pop. then she needs to stay out of the sex lives of others. And if it is true that her son only enlisted in the United States Armed Forces because he couldn’t get into college… She will deserve every bit of criticism on that as well.
You’ve got to give it to her, she really knows how to make lemonade out of lemons.

Sep. 04 2008 01:15 PM
Voter from Brooklyn

Ellen from Manhattan:
Have you listened to Republican talking points on sexual education?! “Abstinence only” means exactly that, abstinence only…. Birth control is not only not an option and not discussed (since abstinence is the only option), in the event it is discussed, it is described as being ineffective (at best) and against God (at its worst, since it prevents the “blessed event”). STDs are not discussed (outside of being a plague of the wicked) because abstinence carries no risk of infection. Sexual orientation is not discussed because sex is for procreation only, and only in the context of a committed relationship (marriage). One is to abstain until married. Abstinence only education is really code for no education what so ever. If you tell children to abstain with no follow-up (because any education is considered an enticement to act) you’re basically teaching them to be ignorant.

Sep. 04 2008 01:15 PM
hjs from 11211

eva,
i'll let u know after i get back from vacation.

ps the "personal stuff" (what's personal any more) speaks to GOP hypocrisy.
all is fair in love and war!

Sep. 04 2008 12:51 PM
eva

Alicia,
the solution to fear is to get involved with the Obama campaign (if you aren't already) they're going to need every bit of help against the GOP attack machine.
Ellen and hjs,
let's forget about the personal stuff - we need our energy for phonebanking.
Do any of you have time to volunteer for the Obama campaign? I'll understand it you don't, but it's really important.

Sep. 04 2008 12:37 PM
hjs from 11211

ellen
so are u saying, daughter knew all about birth control and still got pregnant?
maybe daughter was trying to get mother's attention

Sep. 04 2008 12:11 PM
Ellen from Manhattan

Re: Palin and teen pregnancy.

Why does everyone assume that just because Palin advocates "abstinence only" education in school means she kept her daughter completely ignorant of the facts of life and how to use birth control? Many people (like me) who are leery of how schools might handle or politicize sex-ed for their children are quite committed to teach them the facts in the proper environment and context - our home!

Sep. 04 2008 12:02 PM
Alicia Rodman from Northvale, NJ

Unfortunately, your guest from Regent University hit the nail on the head! Brian asked about students who support Obama...The guest mentioned BLACK students! Huh? Why did the guest say BLACK? Brian did not! But this is true--- we can throw religion into this ALL we want but in the end, when the voting curtain closes people won't vote according to the economy nor about the Iraq War, not religion BUT people will say Do I want a White man or a Black man to lead our country?

Call me cynical but I am a born again, middle class, single parent black woman and I am SCARED if the McCain/Palin ticket wins.

Sep. 04 2008 12:01 PM
eva

adsf,
thank you.
the work of Chaney-Goodman-Schwerner is one of the great heroic triumphs of American life.
Having said that, it's clear the GOP has an effective pit bull in Palin.
How many of us Dems are now going to volunteer for Obama? Please don't just post. We really need to roll up our sleeves and get to work - there's only two months left.

Sep. 04 2008 11:58 AM
Mark Jacobson MD from Port Chester, NY

Listening to this show, it is quite astonishing to hear the talk of responsibility and accountability. The Republicans pride themselves in taking responsibilty out of the hands of government but fail to take responsibility for their record. Where is President Bush? Where are the past 8 years? Why should we expect anything different from this bunch when they can't even own their own record?

Sep. 04 2008 11:49 AM
DAVID from NYC

Brian, I get angry at Republicans always talking about how americans should not be dependant on government which I agree with as a Democrat they always seen to talk about this issue and harp on it like all democrats are dependant on government im sure the statistics will show that middle uneducated america is more dependent on government than the east & west coasts of america and if wee need help from our government when we need help whats wrong with that dont we bail out the world like giving $1 billion dollars to the country Georgia whats wrong with talking care of our own this is that they just dont get!!!!!!

Sep. 04 2008 11:48 AM
Steve from NYC

What is wrong with these Republicans?!!!
What world do they live in?!!!

Sep. 04 2008 11:48 AM
chris o from new york city

Palin is just a celebrity, young and glamourous, at this point since nobody knows anything about her. Never has a political party swooned over a celebrity like this in history. And as per usual in our upside down world, the pot calls the kettle black.

Sep. 04 2008 11:48 AM
Rick from Kingston NY

I am very disturbed by the mockery and sarcastic tone of the Republican campaign as evidenced by their convention. Why can't they be civil?

Sep. 04 2008 11:29 AM
Cynthia from Manhattan

I do not think most people in America want to be rich. I do not think they hope to emulate Bill Gates or any other of the obscenely rich. I DO think most people would like to make more money. Most people do not want to have to count every penny and be fearful each week about having enough to cover the basics. And, yes I do think people resent the rich, not that they are rich, but that they do not share in the same worries the rest of us have, because being rich they aren't required to pay the same relative amounts of money the rest of us are paying just to get by.

Sep. 04 2008 11:26 AM
J.C. from Minneapolis

Government is inherently inefficient? I guess that's why the I-35W bridge is going up in Minneapolis so fast, huh? (Gov't is so bad that the new bridge will be open by November.)

Sep. 04 2008 11:25 AM
Amy from Manhattan

"Class warfare"? How come enacting policies that unfairly benefit the rich over the poor isn't class warfare but pointing out that those policies unfairly benefit the rich *is* class warfare?

Sep. 04 2008 11:25 AM
LarryL from Joisey

You would think that after 8 years of CEOs in the Oval Office, the Repubs might try a different tact.

Sep. 04 2008 11:24 AM
andy from manhattan

regarding the rich being inspiring- they are inspiring when those who make their climb actually take care of the people who help them achieve their goals.

those who exploit the common man and markets to take advantage of those in lower stations and the loopholes only inspire bitterness.

when the income divide is growing rather than shrinking, something is seriously wrong.

Sep. 04 2008 11:24 AM
Voter from Brooklyn

According to the Republican Convention, the Democratic party is the party of:
-Plutocrats (Enron, Halliburton, Exxon-Mobile)
-Big brother (wiretapping)
-Big government (defense spending and new governmental agencies)
-Environmental destruction (where do I begin?)
-Loose family values (Shivo, teen pregnancy, adultery, divorce)
-Loose moral values (sex scandals)
-Personal attacks (again… where do I begin?)
-Being out of touch (how many houses and how many whiners?)
-Wasteful spending (I was for the federally funded bridge to nowhere, before I was against it)
-Sexism (Hillary’s a ___Insert misogynistic expletive here___)
-The cult of personality (Tortured War Hero and Pro-life PTA Mom for president)
-Empty promises and baseless big speeches (the past three days)
This is a case of party heal thyself. The Republican are running against the past eight years and slapping a bid “D” on it. What next, trashing the Democratic presidency of George W. Bush a la Fox News referring to Mark Foley as the Democrat from Florida. The Republicans do make some good points and Democratic hands aren’t clean, but come on.
Then again, the Democrats aren’t calling them out for the hypocrisy, so they’re getting what they deserve.

Sep. 04 2008 11:23 AM
CB

People in the "black ghettos" don't resent wealthy whites? Really? No resentment at all in the "black ghettos" at all? OK . . .

Sep. 04 2008 11:23 AM
Steve from NYC

I would like to know when the last time this guy Jason Riley was in the "black ghetto," as he calls it. And what gives him the experience to speak for the people who live there?

Sep. 04 2008 11:23 AM
LarryL from Joisey

Oh yeah...class warfare is so overblown. I can't tell you how much respect those poor grammas in California actually had for Ken Lay.

Sep. 04 2008 11:22 AM
J.C. from Minneapolis

My take on the big yawnfest that's taking place near my apartment:

Republican speakers might be naming all the problems America's facing right now, but they're incapable of any real solutions to those problems. It's all tax cuts (for the rich), tax cuts (for the rich), and tax cuts (for the rich). Tax cuts (for the rich), it's the only thing Republicans can do (oh, and start unncessary wars while borrowing money to pay for them).

****

Anyway, I thought "Country First" meant paying one's fair share of tax in order provide your fellow citizen with health insurance. I guess putting an end to people dying because they don't have insurance or because their insurance company drags its feet is some sort of radical idea. Shame on me for ever offering up my tax money for such an unpatriotic idea.

Sep. 04 2008 11:19 AM
Sophie

Palin's comments about community organizers were condescending, dismissive and totally belittling.
Community organizers tend to be minorities. Palin probably doesn't have any community organizers in her moose-hunting, gun toting, white community but that does not give her the right to dismiss those that work with the less privileged. Typical GOP stuff. How's that for being out of touch and elitist.

Sep. 04 2008 11:18 AM
James from Jersey City


The "redistribution of wealth" that was brought on by Roosevelt's New Deal resulted in unprecedented prosperity for over 20 years. Now, we face a widening income gap and a weakened middle class. "Redistribution of wealth" may sound nasty, but it CREATED the middle class. Not laissez faire.

Sep. 04 2008 11:16 AM
chris

more right wingers- where is the counter argument?

Sep. 04 2008 11:14 AM
Chuck from Brooklyn

More:

"I will end this war in Iraq responsibly, and finish the fight against al-Qaida and the Taliban in Afghanistan. I will rebuild our military to meet future conflicts. But I will also renew the tough, direct diplomacy that can prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons and curb Russian aggression. I will build new partnerships to defeat the threats of the 21st century: terrorism and nuclear proliferation; poverty and genocide; climate change and disease. And I will restore our moral standing, so that America is once again that last, best hope for all who are called to the cause of freedom, who long for lives of peace and who yearn for a better future."

"I know there are differences on same-sex marriage, but surely we can agree that our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters deserve to visit the person they love in the hospital and to live lives free of discrimination."

Sep. 04 2008 11:13 AM
Chuck from Brooklyn

Really?

Obama:

"I will cut taxes - cut taxes - for 95% of all working families. Because in an economy like this, the last thing we should do is raise taxes on the middle class."

"As president, I will tap our natural gas reserves, invest in clean coal technology and find ways to safely harness nuclear power. I'll help our auto companies retool, so that the fuel-efficient cars of the future are built right here in America. I'll make it easier for the American people to afford these new cars. And I'll invest $150bn over the next decade in affordable, renewable sources of energy - wind power and solar power and the next generation of biofuels; an investment that will lead to new industries and 5m new jobs that pay well and can't ever be outsourced."

"If you have healthcare, my plan will lower your premiums. If you don't, you'll be able to get the same kind of coverage that members of Congress give themselves."

Sep. 04 2008 11:11 AM
Yes I Am from Manhattan

#3 Chuck:

"The RNC is nothing but talking points. Empty words. No policy."

And I quote BHO from his DNC speech:

"This moment - this election - is our chance to keep, in the 21st century, the American promise alive."

"That's the promise we need to keep. That's the change we need right now."

"I believe that as hard as it will be, the change we need is coming."

And please don't forget the all time best:

"We are the one's we've been waiting for"

Hot Damn!!! WOWEEE!!! So many policy points..yeeeehaw!

Sep. 04 2008 11:06 AM
Chuck from Brooklyn

The Republicans have been in charge for 8 years and now we are in the dump.

They claim they can now fix the problems in Washington.

Please people, get it together.

Wake up!

Sep. 04 2008 11:06 AM
Brian from Manhattan

Can you please give some attention to the comment Palin made regarding the rights of detainees? ~and he's worried about if someone read them their rights

Sep. 04 2008 11:03 AM
James Yarsky from Huntington Station

When, O when, is the Republican Party going to stop blaming all of their problems on the media?

Sep. 04 2008 11:00 AM
up in the mountains from Catskills

To the caller who wanted Sarah Palin to speak more about issues, as I understand it, the VP doesn't make deicions on policy issues but rather stands behind what the president decides. So how could she talk more about issue substance? Isn't that McCain's job tonight?

Sep. 04 2008 10:35 AM
DAVID from NYC

Brian, its amazing how no one in the media talks about how ashamed the republican party is about the current administration and the policies that have badly affected our economy, we have not heard any mention of (Dick Cheney)
because they know he has and his cronies have proffited from this war so hide and keep away anyone that forms opinion and open discussions on what will truly hurt the republican party and harp on personalities!

Sep. 04 2008 10:30 AM
Arthur Aptowitz from Forest Hills-Key Food-Queens Blvd and 108th Street

To paraphrase an old cliche: No one ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the American electorate!

Sep. 04 2008 10:23 AM
Chuck from Brooklyn

The RNC is nothing but talking points. Empty words. No policy.

Is America still that dumb after 8 years of this crap?

Sep. 04 2008 10:19 AM
John Hamilton from Yonkers NY

I was amazed at how much Governor Palin resembled President Bush both in content, attitude, self-sufficiency and chummy style. It looks like a vote for Senator McCain and Governor Palin is a vote for four more years of George Bush.

Sep. 04 2008 10:14 AM
DAVID from NYC

Brian, its amazing how the Republican Party avoids the issues and the mess they have gotten us into due to their policies and agenda and only harp on personalities, I dont buy it!

Sep. 04 2008 10:11 AM

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