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RNC Coverage: Hour 1

Thursday, September 04, 2008

Glenn Reynolds, law professor at the University of Tennessee and founder of Instapundit, John Stanton, staff writer for Roll Call, and Pilar Marrero, reporter and columnist for the La Opinión and a reporter with Feet in Two Worlds, analyze last night's speeches and preview Senator McCain's speech tonight.

Then
WNYC Meet the Delegates Series: James Brady from Shaker Heights, OH.


Then
Congresswoman Shelley Moore Capito talks about speech "zingers" at the Republican National Convention.

Guests:

James Brady, Shelley Moore Capito, Pilar Marrero, Glenn Reynolds and John Stanton
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Comments [214]

eva

hi mc,
just saw this now, I will have to answer you tomorrow.
I'm skipping the speech to go for a run along the coastline. I think it's better for my cortisol/adrenaline levels. And, uh, my composure...
;)

Sep. 04 2008 09:43 PM
seriously?

Palin=pawn. It'll be interesting to see how quickly he drops her if he wins the presidency.

Sep. 04 2008 08:21 PM
mc from Brooklyn

Richard #211
Good idea.

eva,
If you're still on board here, wondering what you think of the CA health initiative (actually more than one) that died recently. I just read an LA Times article that stated that 54% of likely CA voters prefer a government run system while 39% prefer the current one.

Sep. 04 2008 04:28 PM
Richard Williams from Larchmont, NY

How about doing a segment on third party voters? Those that do, myself included, are disenfranchised.

Sep. 04 2008 04:21 PM
mc from Brooklyn

eva,
Don't know what a "typical" liberal is anymore. I hold us all accountable for paying more attention to smoke and mirrors than to solving the problems. Both sides do this. How are you going to pay a $9.5 trillion debt, invest in new energy sources, fix the infrastructure and begin new health entitlement programs (this is only a few) AND give 95% of American families a $1000 yearly tax cut? How many of us drank THAT kool-aid?

From the other side: Do you really expect us to believe you eliminate the deficit by 2013 only by eliminating earmarks? All earmarks? Including the bally-hooed pipeline from Alaska? How many of them drank THAT kool-aid?

Until we collectively decide to grow up and have an adult conversation we are not doing anything but congratulating ourselves on how "progressive" or "conservative" we are.

Sep. 04 2008 04:21 PM
Cathleen from NJ

I'm offended by #8's comment about pitbulls - they are great adorable loving dogs whose only fault is they get a bad rap from HORRIBLE owners. Please keep your mostly-likely-appropriate comments about Palin to human references, instead of insulting a wonderful group of dogs. (Oh, and watch Dogtown on National Geographic about Michael Vick's dogs - see how great many mistreated dogs really are!)

Sep. 04 2008 02:38 PM
eva

mc,
you're such a typical liberal, and so am I
I had the same gut reaction when I read hjs' comment
I thought, it's us.
But then I thought, no, it's not us. I didn't sanction that idiotic invasion. I didn't sanction tax cuts for the rich. I didn't ask to repeal the estate tax...
and so on.
I'm noting a disparity:
repub101 and a lot of other so-called republicans just walk away from the car they've crashed. We, in the passenger seat, stick around to give our driver's license to the nice traffic cop.
Sigh. No wonder we lost to these guys. But not this time...

Sep. 04 2008 02:35 PM
eva

hjs,
you sure said it. bush administration decisions have resulted in an additional $3 trillion in debt because of the iraq war.
More importantly, they utterly failed to address their own profligate spending - in the case of the iraq war, most of it to contractors, not even to our own soldiers.
Repub101, your team has had seven years, during some of which time I placed my trust in the Bush administration. Unfortunately, within three years, they had made clear how reckless and profligate they are.
Now we are up a creek without a paddle. No one thinks we can pay off the debt entirely. But we can't walk away.
Repub, what are your thoughts on the deficit? Do you think it will just vanish while you are cheering for sexy Palin? Let me know your ideas for paying it down.
Do you realize that we will not even be able to borrow money to pay the interest on that debt if we do not start paying down what we already owe?
Who will loan us money?
Traditionally, our govt borrowed from its people. This is right, this is the right thing to do. But you don't want to borrow from China. Which is exactly what's been going on for the past seven years.
Why? Why doesn't this concern you?

Sep. 04 2008 02:15 PM
mc from Brooklyn

hjs,
I agree about history judging us harshly. We really can't absolve ourselves of ultimate responsibility.

Sep. 04 2008 02:14 PM
hjs from 11211

"Repubs have been handed one of the most complicated and difficult periods in American and possibly world history."
I wonder if bush & company's "decisions" made this period more complicated & difficult adding to our long term troubles than needed to be.
history will judge them and us harshly

Sep. 04 2008 02:06 PM
eva

Repub101,
Why would that scare me? I'm a centrist Dem.
Thanks for the lengthy response, but, um, you didn't address the issue of the historically high $9.5 trillion federal deficit.
Also, I never called Bush evil. You're confusing me with someone else. But I do think the pork barrel spending he's engaged in is historically reckless, as is the idea that we can go to war without a draft, and without raising taxes.
In American history, when we went to war, we did not traditionally cut taxes. Because it is like slitting one's throat.
Are you excusing Bush's responsibility for the state our economy is in? Have you heard what David Walker, the former Comptroller, has to say about Dick Cheney's statement that "deficits don't matter."?
Uh, deficits do matter. They matter almost more than anything else. Because in the end, we don't walk on water. We manage not to drown only because we have cash. And now we have no cash, only debt.
What about that would encourage you to vote McCain? A guy who could have picked Mitt Romney as a running mate, Romney, a guy who knows his way around a budget. But instead went for a talk show personality type.

Sep. 04 2008 02:06 PM
mc from Brooklyn

Repub 101,
What do you think are the tough decisions that need to be made now, and have you heard solutions to the current problems from either candidate?

Sep. 04 2008 01:55 PM
Repub101 from Manhattan

eva, it's funny that you brought up your thoughts on the 2000 election because I just said to one of my very liberal friends (and most of my friends are liberals) that "in a way, I feel like Obama should win this election. It may just be time for a Dem." Perhaps we have more in common than our political views indicate. Sorry if that scares you.

Part of the greatness of our system is the fact that our representatives need to prove themselves every cycle in order to keep their jobs.

I’m not a Repub in name alone. I believe in fiscal responsibility. I also believe that the government does not and should not 'control' the economy, but that the economy is affected by complex stimuli arising from the both private and public sectors. Do I believe the Bush admin has a strong hand in the current econ climate? Sure. Do I believe evil Bush ruined the economy? No. Our economy is too complex for this to be true.

Unfortch, Repubs have been handed one of the most complicated and difficult periods in American and possibly world history. This is a period where TOUGH decisions needed to be made, and not about what the definition of "is" is. And say what you want about Bush and about the Republican party, but the one thing I respect about Bush is the fact that he was willing to make tough and unpopular decisions sometimes, and not just be a slave to the approval polls.

I could go further into my particular views, if you'd like, but I'm not sure this is the proper forum.

Sep. 04 2008 01:34 PM
eva

Repub101,
still hoping for an answer to the questions I asked you in #196...

Sep. 04 2008 12:42 PM
mc from Brooklyn

wladmir #166,
Something to keep in mind: The WSJ endorsed Obama's health "plan."

Voter #177,
Agreed. The Dems left themselves totally exposed to something like this.

Ernest #185,
Should you be referring to a baby with Downs as "it?"

Alaskans receive $500 in funding per capita per year from the Fed. gov't. They also got a #1200 dividend per person from oil royalties this year. And their votes when run thru the Electoral College weigh a whole lot more than anyone's from NY, IL, CA, PA, OH and on and on. What is wrong with this picture?

Sep. 04 2008 12:36 PM
Talavera from Long Island

# 197...

Look in the mirror & pratice saying...

My President Is Mr. Barack Obama!!!

Get use to the change!!!

We are rolling over the Republicans like a frieght train!!!!

Choo - Choo .....

Sep. 04 2008 12:30 PM
Talavera from Long Island

What’s with FOX-NEWS..???
Every commentator on that news channel describes 'Palin' as if she is one of GODS Disciples...It really is humorous...

The one really BAD decision ( Palin ) has made is being a horrible parent!!!! Allowing her 17 year old get pregnant...If she cannot keep tabs on her own daughter how can she keep tabs on am entire country!!!!!!!

OBAMA - 2008

Sep. 04 2008 12:22 PM
NPV from Sea Cliff, N.Y.

Hey #195 you need to take a "Chill pill" you are delusional. NOBAMA in 2008... NPV

Sep. 04 2008 12:13 PM
eva

Repub101,
Believe it or not, I used to be a lot more open to GOP ideas before they trashed the country - all the while the GOP dissed people like me, who were advocating for a draft and yes, during wartime, no tax cuts.
Even my conservative friends are bailing out of the GOP. No, my friends are not your typical conservatives.
But the fact is, when Bush "won" in 2000, I thought, "hey, we've had the ball for 8 years, let the other team play."
You know what? They didn't just fumble the ball, the trashed the ball field, set all the garbage cans in town on fire, then got drunk and started ramming other cars on the freeway. ENOUGH. It is time for them to pack up and go. The fact that you call yourself Repub101 but aren't concerned about the deficit that Bush has run up... where are your traditionally fiscal-responsibility ideas? Are you Repub in name only? Do you know what the Repub in Republican stands for? And what it requires to survive?

Sep. 04 2008 12:13 PM
Talavera from Long Island

You are so right!!!! The Republicans have destroyed our country!!! Fighting a war based on a lie ---> Then they try to spin it as if now the agenda is spreading democracy in the middle east!!! Oh lets not forget the troop "SURGE" in iRAQ that worked on a WRONG STUPID WAR TO BEGIN WITH!!!!!!
Give Me A Break!!!!

OBMAMA - 2008

Sep. 04 2008 12:10 PM
NPV from Sea Cliff, N.Y.

Hey #170 , Are American workers above cutting lawns and picking lettuce AND working in restaurants, etc. ?????? When I was a younger person I cut lawns , shoveled snow, delivered groceries and other jobs considered menial by today's standards. BUT I learned from these experiences and later went to college and received a B.A. degree and a Masters degree.
It taught me the value of a good education. Youg American people should do these kind of jobs it's ok. NPV

Sep. 04 2008 12:10 PM
em from nj

To: wladmir from new york city

You apparently are a new listener.

Sep. 04 2008 12:05 PM
eva

sorry, I meant $9.5 trillion in the hole, not in the whole

Sep. 04 2008 11:59 AM
eva

If the Palin speech didn't convince all of us Dems to phone-bank or do other volunteer work for the Obama campaign, I think is is useless.
Palin is, indeed, a pit bull, incapable of recognizing the damage her party has done in office over the past seven years. Incapable of putting a party to that $9.5 trillion federal deficit.
We had a SURPLUS, by some definitions, during the Clinton years. That didn't make it perfect, but we weren't $9.5 tril in the whole.
The Bush team has borrowed heavily from China. This is a problem, unless you're a GOP'er who's in deep denial.
Who of us, post-Palin cotillion, will be volunteering for Obama?

Sep. 04 2008 11:54 AM
Talavera from Long Island

There is NO BUZZ for Palin...
She is bad parent with no real issues to deal with up in Alaska...
Are you kidding me!!!
There is nothing up in Alaska to deal with...

OBAMA - 2008

I will be laughing so hard when he wins in November!!!!!!!!!

Sep. 04 2008 11:50 AM
Repub101 from Manhattan

It is really difficult to debate issues on here. We have fundamental philosophical differences as to the nature of government and society. These differences cannot be reconciled or understood by smearing one another, but only by listening. The way each of us feels about particular issues reflects our basic philosophical values-- difficult to discuss those on a fired-up political messageboard.

I confess, I am excited by Palin's performance last night, not just because she is helping the Repub party, but because this is becoming more of a competitive race now. It is no longer a one-sided Obamafest. But, in a way, it's true-- as exciting as she was, she is frankly pissing off the leftists now. And there is nothing more closeminded than a pissed-off party loyalist.

I look forward to a calmer, more substantive debate on the issues.

Sep. 04 2008 11:36 AM
Natalie from NJ

Please somebody explain to me her PTA achievements. Ok, she said that as a PTA she is a pit-bull with lipstick.

Now – how come her son Track has a high school GPA below 2.0? He enlisted in the army, that’s fine. Though there are reports that he wanted to go to college to play hockey, but could not, because his GPA was too low.

Her daughter Bristol is pregnant at 17 and is being home schooled. There are reports that Levi Johnson, Bristol's BF has not finished high school and is a self-proclaimed redneck.

So, as a PTA member how did Sarah help her kids? Her family sounds like a family of high school drop-outs. Her husband, Todd, does not have a college degree.

It sounds like there is no scholarship in her family. How she is going to advocate for education and help to make the US competitive on the world stage in post-industrialized economy?

Sep. 04 2008 11:36 AM
Doug from Manhattan

To Jane from NYC. If under the the basics of the english language. Then you will know what community organizer means.

Sep. 04 2008 11:31 AM
Dash from Manhattan

Palin's speech made me curious if there might be any way of ever knowing how much was actually written by her-- I know it may sound like a question that wouldn't be asked of a man, but the speech was so polished and shiny, it sounded as if it could have been written by very defensive Bruce Vilanch.

Sep. 04 2008 11:29 AM
Ernest Mehler from Manhatten

Dear Brian,

I have watched the major speeches from both conventions and what is most striking is the startling difference in the speeches: While the Democratic speeches discussed policy, the Republican speeches were nearly empty of any real substance. Concentrating on personality and family.

This brings me to Sarah Palin's speech. It was almost entirely about how she was a typical mother and how wonderful was her family. The question which immediately came to my mind was just what kind of mother was she when she failed to protect her daughter? Did she provide her daughter with any information about sexuality and how pregnancy is initiated and how to prevent it? I raise this question because the problems that social conservatives have with sex is well known.

Then I thought about her youngest child with Downs Syndrome. We have no idea of the kind of suffering a Downs Syndrome child experiences throughout its life, but one thing is certain: it cannot experience a normal, healthy life. Since this condition is detectable in the first trimester of pregnancy, allowing the pregnancy to go to term is simply an act of cruelty or, if you will, child abuse.

Sep. 04 2008 11:29 AM
the truth from Atlanta/New York

What is she talking about? Jason was correct Senator Obama and the Democrats are definetly in the drivers seat. Repubs will self destruct keep watching.

Sep. 04 2008 11:26 AM
Chelsea from NYC

They say they are going to cut spending...but never mention the tremendous amount of spending on the war??

Sep. 04 2008 11:25 AM
robert from park slope

The NY Times had a series of articles a few years ago dispelling the myth of social mobility in the US. If I recall correctly, social mobility here is roughly the same as is seen in other developed nations.

Sep. 04 2008 11:23 AM
NPV from Sea Cliff, N.Y.

It is a shame that the truly great modern Democrats like Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman and JFK no longer exist. They were great men who were patriots and compassionate statesmen. Their philosophy is absent in the new democratic party. They should do some research on these great men they may just learn something.
NPV

Sep. 04 2008 11:22 AM
ann from Forest Hills, NY

I'm in shock.....this is what electing a President of the USA has come to? Asking listeners which party had the best "zinger"? Are the real issues that affect the citizens of this country not even on the table? Did Gov. Palin at the Republican convention last night give even one positive view on how she would help Sen. McCain govern as President?

It would appear from all the commentary I've listened to on cable & radio this morning that voters and the "evil media" in this country are only interested in how Gov. Palin "connected" with women voters who have similar family dynamics. I'd like to hear how she "connected" with other women who gave birth to a child with Down syndrome and how difficult and emotional it is to care for a special needs child every day - and work at a job to pay the bills.

Let's get back to the issues....Gov. Palin is a Conservative - with Conservative ideology, not to mention that she believes in creationism and that this ideology should be taught in our public school systems. Oh, there's one more issue....overturning Roe v. Wade and denying a woman's right to choose. I am not "pro abortion" - but I am for a woman's right to choose.

Sep. 04 2008 11:21 AM
nora from little italy

No oversight -- this administration and the mc'cain carry forward, will have to undo the policies that created our current disaster...
they have to start talking about rescinding some of the bush policies.
this repub party really despises government... I think that is the deep cynicism of mc'cains choice of palin. they want to continue to undo government.

Sep. 04 2008 11:20 AM
Robert from Manhattan

There is one basic thing to remember where "zingers" are concerned. The last eight years under George Bush have been so ruinous that most of the Democrats' zingers have the virtue of being true.

Much of what the Republicans said was their usual divisive garbage. Obama was dumb (if not completely inaccurate) to make his guns and religion comment. The comment was fair game, and he paid the price, but most of the rest last night was manufactured nonsense.

How desperate were the Republicans for zinger material? Take Mitt Romney. He zinged the Supreme Court's Guantanamo decision as the product of liberals. Last I checked, the Supreme Court was conservative enough to steal an election for George Bush, and was only made more so by Bush's two appointments. Thou hast zinged a Republican conservative bastion, Mr. Mitt. Truly pathetic.

Sep. 04 2008 11:18 AM
Voter from Brooklyn

According to the Republican Convention, the Democratic party is the party of:
-Plutocrats (Enron, Halliburton, Exxon-Mobile)
-Big brother (wiretapping)
-Big government (defense spending and new governmental agencies)
-Environmental destruction (where do I begin?)
-Loose family values (Shivo, teen pregnancy, adultery, divorce)
-Loose moral values (sex scandals)
-Personal attacks (again… where do I begin?)
-Being out of touch (how many houses and how many whiners?)
-Wasteful spending (I was for the federally funded bridge to nowhere, before I was against it)
-Sexism (Hillary’s a ___Insert misogynistic expletive here___)
-The cult of personality (Tortured War Hero and Pro-life PTA Mom for president)
-Empty promises and baseless big speeches (the past three days)
This is a case of party heal thyself. The Republican are running against the past eight years and slapping a bid “D” on it. What next, trashing the Democratic presidency of George W. Bush a la Fox News referring to Mark Foley as the Democrat from Florida. The Republicans do make some good points and Democratic hands aren’t clean, but come on.
Then again, the Democrats aren’t calling them out for the hypocrisy, so they’re getting what they deserve.

Sep. 04 2008 11:17 AM
Olivia from Manhattan

And as far as soundbites and 'zingers', can someone please explain to me just why they think there is a movement to create a climate-danger-hoax? Why? what's the benefit? I can see the benefit to some with special interests to minimize the danger of global warming and climate change because people stand to lose money and jobs. But, just why do some of these right-wingers think this threat is exaggerated? What's the benefit.

Please explain the Dems=Big Government to me. I see Right = Big Gov with its marriage to Corporate AMerica.

Sep. 04 2008 11:16 AM
SuzanneNYC from Upper West Side

RE: The Jet

Democracy Now had a lengthy interview with an Alaskan journalist. While Palin did put the jet on Ebay -- it didn't sell. (A minor detail.) Whenever she did sell it, it was at a considerable loss.

Sep. 04 2008 11:15 AM
Colin Martin from Weehawken, nj

The world is a much smaller place than it was in the 1950's. People from outside the USA live here for a short while or a long while. The same goes for American citizens going to live outside the US. The economies of other countries effect the US's - We need our President to be a -
Citizen of the World
Are we to forget all the monologues and statements Bob Costas said during the Olympics, and other during the World Cup? Countries coming together because we want to show how similar all the people of the world are, despite the different places we all hail from.

With the advances in weapon systems, it is physically easier to start a war, so the diplomacy that Obama exhibited on his last two tours to Europe is Very Important - absolutely essential. So the more the republicans make fun of Obama in this respect - they are showing how much they lack having those skills.

Sep. 04 2008 11:15 AM
the truth from Atlanta/New York

Obamalytes? nice. the disrespect just keeps on a'comin!

Sep. 04 2008 11:14 AM
Deborah from South Orange, NJ

At first I was disgusted with Palin's speech, but now mostly I am saddened and a bit angry. After all, she might be my vice president. Though I am not voting for her and McCain, I'd like to think that if they won, they'd get my life.

We hear a lot about we "Northeast Liberal Elites" not understanding real America. Well, for all the glorification of small town America (which indeed can be lovely) a lot of the U.S. population lives in more densely populated urban/suburban areas. I don't think she really gets what THAT is like. The problems and the issues facing THOSE areas.

Also, for all her praising of the Western, Alaskan small town stuff, it's Federal tax dollars that subsidize that life. And as a small town mayor she knew that and played tat game well, bringing home lots of Fed $$ for Wasilla. Good for her, we are all one country. But don't turn around now and tell me how great you are, how well you ran your town, when it was my tax $$ making it possible. All these "I hate the Washington establishment types" all seem to live in places that are subsidized by the Fed. government.

I would prefer someone who gives me a sense that we are all in it together - small town, big city and suburb.

I could go on with other stuff, but that was my main cause of dismay.

Sep. 04 2008 11:13 AM
KC from NYC

wladmir: I hear you. Good though NPR may be (and especially WNYC), this is still the mainstream media, funded by the same corporations as everybody else (although the commercials are classier on public broadcasting, so that's something). There is thoughtful, even reporting to be found though, where people from both sides come on and have to answer real questions. Try: www.democracynow.org.

Sep. 04 2008 11:13 AM
hjs from 11211

npv
who will cut your lawn? who will pick your lettuce?

Sep. 04 2008 11:12 AM
the truth from Atlanta/New York

I don't want to hear anymore zingers while there are people out here deciding whether they should eat or put gas in their cars...and who are already worried about how they will heat their homes this darn winter!

Sep. 04 2008 11:11 AM
Dana from Queens

Can we please begin an examination of what Republicans are talking about when they cite the "experience" argument? Managing a budget is not the day to day job of the President of the United States. However, the Presidential oath requires a pledge to uphold and defend the US Constitution. So, I'm just wondering: is anyone else concerned that, in an era of ever-expanding Presidential power (by the Washington Republican elite), the second most powerful person in the world might be a book-banning US Constitutional Law illiterate?

Sep. 04 2008 11:11 AM
the truth from Atlanta/New York

Brian, they get it but what do they propose to do ABOUT IT!!!!

Sep. 04 2008 11:10 AM
wladmir from new york city

oh my god, now he's got a guy on from the WSJ editorial board! A bigger bunch of frothing lying media doesn't exist. More, they have their own daily newspaper and their own website putting out their right-wing propaganda.

we don't need this on wnyc!

Sep. 04 2008 11:10 AM
NPV from Sea Cliff, N.Y.

Brian, Did you ask Pilar if she is here legally ? What a bunch of pro-illegal immigration nonsense. We will destroy ourselves from within if we do not close our borders especially from Mexico. Enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NPV

Sep. 04 2008 11:09 AM
Inspired Dem from NYC

As a Hillary-voter and disgruntled democrat who doesn't believe in Obama, I still have no idea which way I will vote.

While I find it unlikely I will vote Republican, (I'm likely to write in) I still thought Palin hit it "out of the park". She was amazing. She more than hit her marks and managed to do it without seeming overly vicious or mean-spirited. Some of her remarks about Obama echoed my own concerns as well and got to the core of his weaknesses.

The Obamalytes are fooling themselves if they think she didn't....and that state will only help the Republicans.

Sep. 04 2008 11:07 AM
wladmir from new york city

no wonder there are so many republican shills on this board, know what I mean?

WNYC puts out republican propaganda, just like every other radio station in this town.

everyone knows that republicans are just in it for the money. they only care about themselves, not about principles or people. they've brought the country down, from 9/11 to the Russian invasion of Georgia -- all happened on the republican watch.

mccain is a loser -- he was caught by the vietnamese and kept captive for five years. he can't even raise his hands above his head. he's a joke.

Sep. 04 2008 11:06 AM
Srikanth from New Jersey

She has raised the bar for being an Angry Person.

I shudder to imagine that this woman could be holding the Nuclear Trigger.

Given that Republicans have mastered the art of controlling the political discourse ( Liberal = BAD - Are you kidding me??) and that McCain has one foot in the grave - my worst nightmares are about to be realized.

A trigger happy president who believes that creationism should be taught in science classes and that global warming is a hoax -- If we were searching for a shortcut to the backwaters of civilization , we might have just found the person who will lead us there.

Sep. 04 2008 11:06 AM
Olivia from Manhattan

Well said Deborah @ 157!!!!

Sep. 04 2008 11:05 AM
LarryL from Joisey

The Republicans win the zinger contest because it really is the only thing they have left. They can't run on the record of the last eight years, they can't run on ideas (Gingrich/Norquist sound even more hollow), and must cling to divisiveness as their last hope....

Sep. 04 2008 11:03 AM
Dash from Manhattan

Palin's speech made me curious if there might be any way of ever knowing how much was actually written by her-- I know it may sound like a question that wouldn't be asked of a man, but the speech was so polished and shiny, it sounded as if it could have been written by very defensive Bruce Vilanch.

Sep. 04 2008 11:03 AM
NPV from Sea Cliff, N.Y.

Brian, Congresswoman Capito is no Republican...
She is a (RINO) Republican in name only. Your pretty slick...NPV

Sep. 04 2008 11:02 AM
Olivia from Manhattan

I agree with the statements about her being chosen for her sex. McCain is looking to balance the repub. traditional image with this face of the democratic party and i think Obama (whom I support and for whom I will vote and wear the Tshirts and buttons so don't get me worng)did the same. Doesn't anyone remember Biden's remark about Obama being 'well spoken' and how that set off a flurry of chat in the media and criticism? He was chosen to add a solid veneer to their ticket. It's about image.

Sep. 04 2008 11:02 AM
deborah from hudson valley

It is absolutely fair to put Sarah Palin's parenting skills into the public sphere--because she invokes as her primary qualification for the vice presidency being a hockey mom. What she's saying is her family is her "record." Let the vetting begin.
In playground parlance, she started it.

Sep. 04 2008 11:02 AM
wladmir from new york city

oh my god, we have to listen to hours of Republican propaganda on WNYC?

Lies, lies and more lies -- and Brian just lies down, Mr. Friendly. What a guy.

Is there no radio station in the world that tells the truth?

Why would anyone give money to this Republican propaganda machine?

Sep. 04 2008 11:02 AM
the truth from Atlanta/New York

Zinger: Washington Elite. Ironic?

Sep. 04 2008 11:02 AM
Jeff from Midtown

It's driving me nuts. The Democrats are letting the Republicans control the debate by comparing Palin's qualifications and "executive" experience with Obama's experience. Other than managing the Hanoi Hilton, what executive experience does John McCain have?

Sep. 04 2008 11:01 AM
drdave from New York

I have been hearing the term "VeePILF" around... as in Palen could be the first VPILF in USA history. Like MILF.

I can't decide if that's sexist or funny? Is it both?

Sep. 04 2008 11:01 AM
Jack

"American consumes 25% of the world's oil but only has 3% of the reserves. Even if you drill everywhere in the US, even if you drill in McCain's backyard, even the backyards he doesn't know he owns, we will not be able to drill our way out of this crisis"

Sep. 04 2008 11:00 AM
Mark from Brooklyn

Watching her speech (and then reading it confirmed in the New Yorker), it seemed to me that Palin would have been a fine VP for the Dems, too. She has no ideology. There was no criticism of the left beyond the old "raise taxes" shibboleth. She's a social conservative, but so is Jim Webb. My take: hired gun.

Sep. 04 2008 11:00 AM
Ed from Bedford

So far, we've had two days of the Republican convention, and they have directly contradicted each other: Day 1's theme was: we're not Republicans or Democrats, we're all Americans. Day 2: a call for a new kind of class war; this time not between races or genders, but between urban (community organizers) and rural (small city mayors).

My favorite zinger: Mayor Giuliani's rfeernces to Obama's voting "present" and that mayors and presidents can't vote "present."

Sep. 04 2008 11:00 AM
Tom from Winter Park, FL

The fact that you are concentrating on the "zingers" from last night gives credence to the cynical, vacuous, mean-spirited method the Republican party will use for the rest of this election.

Instead, you should be focusing on the half-truths and blatant lies spewed from both the podium and the aisles. Don't fall in step with the MSM -- focus on the issues the Dems are talking about and the Reps are avoiding.

Sep. 04 2008 10:58 AM
the truth from Atlanta/New York

Not a lot of diversity in that RNC crowd.

Sep. 04 2008 10:57 AM
Sean from Brooklyn

No one can beat the Republicans at zingers. It is what they are best at. Why concentrate on the crumbling economy or thinking progressively towards new energy sources when you can take a zing at the opposition.

Sep. 04 2008 10:57 AM
Tony from Brooklyn from Brooklyn

The republicans had the best zingers as far as character smearing goes (as usual), but I think the belittling sarcasm was way over the top, especially from Rudy.

Sep. 04 2008 10:56 AM
g.b. from brooklyn

Listening to the current commentator from W Virginia...Fun? We are in embroiled in 2 wars, a recession, economic problems, and we should have fun with this election?

Also, Mitt Romney's yelling to get the "Washington liberals out of Washington"? Scratching my head here, isn't the current POTUS a red elephant himself??

Sep. 04 2008 10:56 AM
Miss Kitty from Brooklyn, NY

A couple of thoughts:
I'm not sure, but I don't think the name "Bush" was mentioned even once during the night. I'd like to know where Bush gets the money for war if not plundering American taxpayer money?

there is nothing Palin could say to endear me to her. Although I can't relate to her being a "hockey mom" as my child is developmentally disabled, her lipstick joke was quite a good ha-ha. This does not make a VP!

Sep. 04 2008 10:56 AM
Jessica from Fanwood NJ

The Republicans did a way better job with zingers than the Democrats. Two you have not played was Giuliani's shtick about the 130 times that Obama voted "present" as a state legislator and that as Mayor (and Palin as Mayor or Governor) don't have that luxury. The other one was when Palin said that the Democrats always say that they will "fight for you" but that the only man who actually fought for you on the ticket is McCain. That wasn't so much a zinger as a point that might resonate with many Americans.

Sep. 04 2008 10:55 AM
Rachel

I think the Republican "zingers" have been much better... But the Dem zingers were based on actual policy positions, while the Republicans relied on mostly personal attacks. I hope that undecided voters will be turned off by this Mean Girl.

Sep. 04 2008 10:55 AM
chris o from new york city

Franz #14 - Amen.

Sep. 04 2008 10:54 AM
NPV from Sea Cliff, N.Y.

#94 /Longstreet from L.I. - You are dead on, intelligent and a real breath of fresh air. Keep up the good work. NPV

Sep. 04 2008 10:54 AM
PJBeee from Ridgewood NJ

Brian: You properly didn't mention race when asking your guest about his party choice, so he took the opportunity to let us all know he is black.

Indeed, perhaps it's a good time to stop mentioning Obama's race almost every time the press begins a story about the election. One would have had to been living under a rock to not know this. Let's focus more on the candidates' leadership qualities and platforms. Please!

Sep. 04 2008 10:53 AM
Laura

def the republicans. But i don't think that"s something to be proud of! I guess the republicans haven't heard the news lately. There are some serious things going on in the world! I'm sicjk and tired of this BS being thrown to the American people.

Sep. 04 2008 10:52 AM
Arthur Aptowitz from Forest Hills-Key Food-Queens Blvd and 108th Street

How About Best Hypocritcial Zinger: The former Mayor of NYC accuses Obama of being "cosmopolitan"?

Sep. 04 2008 10:52 AM
jonjon

The Republicans definitely have the best slogans and zingers, but the problem is that's all they have. Sadly, that may be enough to win (it's worked before).

Sep. 04 2008 10:52 AM
Owen from Rochester

The Republicans *always* have the zingiest zingers, because they're unbound from the burdens of honesty, accuracy, etc. And also because they're just so much better at being mean (why ever that is).

Sep. 04 2008 10:52 AM
O from Forest Hills

Rep101

Then lots have a drink and talk politics.:)

Sep. 04 2008 10:51 AM
Susan Shopiro from New Jersey Backwoods

So, The Grand Oil Party has offered to replace two oil men with one oil woman who describes herself as a Pit Bull.

Ok.

Isn't a Pit Bull the dog with a reputation for escaping the control of their owners and viciously wounding or even killing innocent neighbors, children and by-standers?

Ok.

And this Pit Bull's owner has confessed to making decisions by gut and too quickly and then paying the consequences.

Ok.

I recommend tall strong fences and lots of insurance.

Sep. 04 2008 10:50 AM
Mike from Inwood

Repub101 from Manhattan states: "I think you guys are just a little scared that she might actually be appealing... And, I actually am a non-smoker :) I do enjoy a good drink though!"

No doubt, Palin is appealing, but she only preaches to the converted inside the RNC bubble. Her smug sarcasm is not the way to appeal to independents.

Sep. 04 2008 10:50 AM
jtt from nyc

@ america wins with whatever (aka man of many names and few ideas):

Obama had nothing to to with the decisions his parents made leading to his conception and birth. He dosen't care who knows about this stuff. In fact he wrote about it himself.

Also, you suddenly seem to be so easily amused...(ain't she just so cute!)

Sep. 04 2008 10:50 AM
Repub101 from Manhattan

Wow-- "ugly beauty queen"?!? Ad hominem! er... Ad feminem?

Sep. 04 2008 10:49 AM
KC from NYC

For the record, the first thing Palin did after winning her mayorship (617-413, quite a turnout) was fire the town librarian and start banning book.

Banning books! Such a classic.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/03/halperin/

Sep. 04 2008 10:48 AM
Repub101 from Manhattan

I think you guys are just a little scared that she might actually be appealing... And, I actually am a non-smoker :) I do enjoy a good drink though!

Sep. 04 2008 10:47 AM
drew from brooklyn

As evidence of the "sexism" being lobbed at Sarah Palin, the question of family vs job is most often raised (and "the button"). The counter to that, however, is the fact that the same questions were asked of John Edwards when he was running. John Edwards is not a woman.

Let's re-examine the media sexism question.

Sep. 04 2008 10:46 AM
Scott from Brooklyn

In suggesting that Obama has "no executive experience," it must be said that his running of his campaign and winning the nomination alone is probably one of the most adroit political accomplishments we've seen in a long, long time. This alone has shown a very sure executive hand.

Sep. 04 2008 10:45 AM
the truth from Atlanta/New York

She was totally chosen because she is a woman, McCain went through 46 men to get to her. He was not looking for experience, but someone to shake things up.

Sep. 04 2008 10:45 AM
Mike from Inwood

Repub101 from Manhattan replies: "Truth-- She has the majority of her Repub base already. I didn't say she needs Obama supporters. The independents will ultimately decide this election. She has a chance with that group"

She believes that a woman who is raped and pregnant should be obligated to carry the baby to term. She has no chance once they find out about her family values.

Sep. 04 2008 10:44 AM
Olivia from Manhattan

I heard this Palin diverted funds away from such programs as a shelter/resource center for pregnant teens in order to build the ridiculously large sports complex in the 'small town' she keeps defining herself by. Not sure if it's true.

Sep. 04 2008 10:43 AM
the truth from Atlanta/New York

Repub 101 @ 109 - as an independent, I beg to differ.

Sep. 04 2008 10:43 AM
O from Forest Hills

Repub101

Obama will be President, not the old man with the walker or the ugly beauty queen whom is here to "serve" her country and doesn't care what her critics think.

Save me some!

Sep. 04 2008 10:43 AM
Chris Piazza from Brooklyn

The Republicans are playing the sexist card because they saw that it was effective when Hillary Clinton played the sexist card. Don't get me wrong, I feel like Obama's people have often played the racist card to their benefit. I feel like these tactics have too much sway and are designed to distract people.

My concern about Palin is not her inexperience (Obama isn't technically very experienced either). I'm more concerned about where she comes from -- I live in New York City. What does she know about our needs here, being governor of one of the most rural states in the union? For Obama's lack of experience, at least he's got experience working in Chicago, an urban environment similar to the city. McCain/Palin are blatantly playing to the small-town, conservative base. Obama/Biden, for better or worse, are playing to "urban" folks of all races and classes. I'm in that base, and I support that ticket.

Sep. 04 2008 10:42 AM
NPV from Sea Cliff, N.Y.

Brian , Your guests are hoplessly liberal, elitist, and extremly intollerant...Why not
suprise your entire listening audience with a little balance???????????? NPV

Sep. 04 2008 10:42 AM
Ciro in NJ from Garfield, NJ

Re: Presidential succession.

If either Presidential Candidate should die, Prior To The Election, Who would be chosen to replace that candidate and HOW?

AND, what does that do to the VP position?

Does anyone know?

Sep. 04 2008 10:42 AM
the truth from Atlanta/New York

Not a lot of diversity in that RNC crowd.

Sep. 04 2008 10:42 AM
Repub101 from Manhattan

Whoa, I just realized I said "vote for Palin." Ha! I totally forgot that she was running as the VP for a second! What in the world....

Sep. 04 2008 10:41 AM
Franz from UWS

Brian,

The first few days of this convention were listless. But now with Rudy and Palin leading the way, the GOP is focused again around what they know:

Hate and Anger -- This rage is what they love about politics.

The GOP is aroused by primal screeching bitterness. What moderate voters saw last night is a vicious white mob laughing at people losing their homes. They watched Palin bash regular citizens who try to fix their own neighborhoods.

Rick Davis yesterday admitted that McCain campaign won't let this election be about issues.

Anger, victimization, personality conflicts - that's what they win with.

Sep. 04 2008 10:40 AM
Mike from Inwood

Longstreet from NYC asserts: "You lefties are inocuculated in your NYC bubble and utterley clueless as to why Palin is such a home run. Keep talking only amongst yourselves, and preferrably, your Democratic representatives. You are going to give away the White House in what should by all rights be a cakewalk for you this year. Have fun watching the SCOTUS confirmation hearings next year."

Why do you think there will be hearings? It'll have to make it out of the Democrat-controlled committee first. Just like Clinton's nominations...

Sep. 04 2008 10:40 AM
KC from NYC

Good, good point. All those "bridge to nowhere" pointless jobs programs are essentially welfare; from my taxes to these "government handout hating" people.

Isn't there a gigantic property tax credit that people can get just by living in Alaska? If that isn't a social safety net (funded predominantly by "blue" states, benefitting people in "red" states) I don't know what is.

Sep. 04 2008 10:40 AM
Owen from Rochester

I disagree that Palin saying "community organizer" is supposed to conjure racist fears. I think it just means "whiny big-city liberal activist-type" in the minds of most conservatives.

Sep. 04 2008 10:40 AM
Christina from Manhattan

Re the jet she sold on Ebay. If she hadn't done that, maybe she could have quickly flown back from Dallas to Alaska after her water broke, not having to fly on commercial airlines, and endanger the life of her 7 month old fetus.

She sounds irresponsible in her family life and won't be able to govern, and run her family. She can't do it now.

Sep. 04 2008 10:40 AM
Repub101 from Manhattan

Truth-- She has the majority of her Repub base already. I didn't say she needs Obama supporters. The independents will ultimately decide this election. She has a chance with that group.

Sep. 04 2008 10:39 AM
P from Brooklyn

Will someone tell Glenn Reynolds that it was SARAH PALIN and not the 'liberal media' that revealed the story of her daughter's pregnancy.

His comparisons to the Edwards affair are totally specious.

I understand this is a political convention but I wish that Brian Lehrer would invite straight shooters and not political hacks that are willing to lie to score a point.

Sep. 04 2008 10:39 AM
Bobby from Manhattan

Disgusting. Brian has on YET ANOTHER whiny pro-illegal alien apologist.

Dear Pilar:

Newsflash: Americans--not your beloved "undocumented immigrants"--built this nation. "Undocumented immigrants" only do jobs Americans used to do before being displaced by the "undocumented immigrants."

Your hatred for small town Americans is nothing short of racist and xenophobic.

Sep. 04 2008 10:39 AM
John from Brooklyn

So when is Palin going to sit down for an interview with anybody other than People magazine?

Sep. 04 2008 10:39 AM
Michael from NYC

Last caller about Red states collects wellfare, but that's ok, but if blue state does it, it's communism!

WOW! That was an insight!

Thanks for freedom of speech!

Sep. 04 2008 10:39 AM
the truth from Atlanta/New York

There are a whole other group of Americans that she was NOT addressing in her speech and offending the females on the fence.

Sep. 04 2008 10:39 AM
chris

why is it that Brian can never stand up to the right wingers like this guy Glen from instapundit??

where is the sexism? whre is the party bias? the msm never went after any unsubstantiated rumors about sarah palin. do the facts of her past matter at all?? why is this guy even associated with WNYC and the Brian Leher show at all? is this what our donations go to?

Sep. 04 2008 10:38 AM
PJBeee from Ridgewood NJ

As if there wasn't "adequate" press coverage of the John Edwards affair. Remember, too, that Edwards is NOT a candidate for President or V.P. Sheesh.

Sep. 04 2008 10:38 AM
Nick from wilton ct

Governor Sarah Palin was chosen for VP because she is a woman! If she was a man she would not have been chosen given her lack of experience. Isn't this sexism?

love show

Go OBAMA

Sep. 04 2008 10:38 AM
Nadia from Manhattan

Why isn't Brian challenging the comparison of press coverage of the John Edwards story with the Palin story? He wasn't running for office at the time the affair was revealed! Of course the press was less interested than it is in a nearly unknown vice-presidential candidate.

Sep. 04 2008 10:37 AM
J from Brooklyn, Ny

To respond to your guest although i agree the media's sentiment seemed different on the Edward's scandal he was not the VP nominee which could be a reason there was less focus on that scandal. He is a private citizen not running for office.

Sep. 04 2008 10:37 AM
Terry Milner from Manhattan

The comparison with John Edwards is weak and irrelevant. Edwards was off the stage way before his affair came out, while Sarah Palin is the Republican nominee for Vice President. She's poised to be their attack dog, so she better get a thick skin.

Sep. 04 2008 10:37 AM
the truth from Atlanta/New York

Good job caller!

Sep. 04 2008 10:37 AM
Mike from Inwood

Derek from Brooklyn asks: "Shouldn't the governor of Alaska need a jet? My impression is that many towns don't have road access and one has to fly or boat into them. Just sayin."

A small plane with one propellor might be necessary since the state is as large as the entire US west and doesn't have a lot of roads, but a jet requires the large, paved runways of an airport, which few alaska towns have.

Sep. 04 2008 10:35 AM
Steve (the other one) from Manhattan

She did ask for it - fundamentalists run on family values and their ability to keep their children "pure" - Palin's family is a trainwreck, and it's fair to ask her how she can run the country if she can't even run her own family to her (admittedly ridiculous) standard.

Sep. 04 2008 10:35 AM
Longstreet from NYC area

You lefties are inocuculated in your NYC bubble and utterley clueless as to why Palin is such a home run. Keep talking only amongst yourselves, and preferrably, your Democratic representatives. You are going to give away the White House in what should by all rights be a cakewalk for you this year. Have fun watching the SCOTUS confirmation hearings next year.

Sep. 04 2008 10:35 AM
the truth from Atlanta/New York

REPUB101..She does not have to win with "Obama supporters" she needs to win with the people in her party and even some of them use words like smug and sarcastic to describe her...scroll up!

Sep. 04 2008 10:34 AM
BORED

Also sexism is when you are okay with women being paid less then men when working the same job.

Sep. 04 2008 10:33 AM
European from Europe

It's amazing to me that the American election comes down to little back-and-forths about silly issues that seem to be totally irrelevant once these people are elected. Where is the debate about policy, the reasoning, the accountability and the reaction to eight years of George W. Bush? The Democrats are going to drown in the swamp of nonsense topics that the Republican party manages to centre the debate around.

Comedy Central had a couple of great clips from Karl Rove and other Republican shouters lined up in last night's episode of Jon Stewart's The Daily Show, worth the watch: http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/index.jhtml?episodeId=184082

Sep. 04 2008 10:33 AM
Jane from nyc

How absurd to suggest that "community organizer" is racist code for urban or African-American. I don't think most Americans even know what the hell community organizer means, or specifically what Obama accomplished during those years.

And yes, it certainly is sexist for the media to keep "reporting" on her inability to juggle her family and the vice-presidency. Yesterday's ABCnews.com suggested the demands of becoming a GRANDMOTHER might preclude her giving all her attention to the office. Give me a break!

Sep. 04 2008 10:32 AM
harmon michaels from jersey city, nj

1. the woman who was just defending palin on the experience issue sounds JUST as pathetic as any democratic die-hard who insists the same of obama.
2. palin was the first mayor of wasilla to run up a deficit. 22 million dollars in 6 years.
3. yesterday on npr mike huckabee said palin was much more experienced in the nuts and bolts of governance than joe biden because he is only 1 legislator among many in the senate. i agree with huckabee. of course this means she is also more experienced than john mccain as well.
4. the only difference between a conservative and a horse is which end the crap comes out of.
5. peggy noonan off mike on msnbc unwittingly summed it up for all the puditocracy. she wrote a glowing column in defense of palin. and then admitted that she thinks the choice is a joke. they're ALL (left and right) full of crap. peddling talking points and standing up for their side no matter what the facts may be.

Sep. 04 2008 10:32 AM
Repub101 from Manhattan

I see a lot of comments as to how sarcastic and "mean" Palin was last night; but, let's be realistic: as a female, if Palin showed less fire, the country (including WNYC listeners) would brand her weak and ill-prepared for the world stage. She can't win with Obama supporters either way. That said, she was charismatic enough to impress my sister, a very independent voter, who was extremely skeptical about McCain's choice until last night. Doesn't mean she will ultimately vote for Palin, but it does show that she has the potential to sway independents.

Sep. 04 2008 10:32 AM
Maya

I don't quite get the experience thing; it's so confused. Last night Giuliani and Palin skewered Obama's lack of executive experience, but ignored McCain's lack. "The least experienced candidate in a hundred years," Giuliani said, avoiding a peek at Lincoln who had less, but what about Kennedy, who had little experience (none "executive"). [I haven't heard the snickering appropriate to Huckabee's calling Lincoln the "founder" of our party....]I am especially annoyed by the inarguable awe in the face of McCain's Vietnam experience, this from the very people who felt perfectly comfortable with dragging John Kerry's war experience through the mud.... And I hope we will not ignore Sarah Palin's snide remark about Obama wanting to be sure we read the terrorists their rights... I reacted especially to this as I am reading THE DARK SIDE...

Sep. 04 2008 10:31 AM
Steve (the other one) from Manhattan

Brian - both McCains and a Fox commentator have said that she has foreign policy experience because Alaska is close to Russia. Please ask your panel what they think.

Sep. 04 2008 10:31 AM
Mike from Inwood

"America Wins with Palin" from NYorkistan states: "Brian I love this show! With your callers -- and posters here -- all one has to do is substitute Obama's in name for Palin in any criticism of Palin. The hypocrisy is incredible. Like: Palin has no experience.
Translation: Obama has no experience! Obama is running for the TOP JOB ...carrying the football."

If running the local PTA and being a mayor of a remote town of less than 6,000 people is 'executive experience', she also has more of it than McCain. After all, he's never run an organization larger than his campaign. In one form or another, he's been a government employee all his life, like his father & grandfather. He's raised on government benefits and whines anout people without them that complain too much.

Sep. 04 2008 10:31 AM
William from Manhattan

"Palin Electrifies Convention?"

Sarah Palin's rhetoric never rose above juvenile sarcasm. At least in America's disastrous affair with Dubya, media gatekeepers were seduced by a college frat boy. Eight years later, are they now falling for a high school mean girl?

This time, let's tune out the buzz long enough to think like responsible adults before voting.

Sep. 04 2008 10:30 AM
Steve (the other one) from Manhattan

This is nuts - she's not being attacked because she's a woman, she's being attacked because she's an inexperienced revenge-seeking dispensationalist.. She thinks Iraq is a messianic war. She thinks rape victims should be forced to have the child. She thinks creationism should be taught in schools and that our activities don't have anything to do with global warming. In other words, she's a joke - she is deeply ignorant and so far right that it's beyond belief. She's a horrible choice.

Sep. 04 2008 10:29 AM
dr. sandra r. mann from new york city

i believe in career and family, but how does one learn to be president/stand-in with an infant, down syndrome son, an infant grandchild, 4 other children?

and, what happens to this infant when she is traveling all over the country? no attachment, bonding, attention needs of this and her other children - especially her teen-age daughter. what makes her think it's just fine for a 4 month old infant with a nervous system of an infant to be on a podium with 30,000 screaming people why is no one commenting on her judgement as a mother?

dr. sandra mann
dedicated feminist, child advocate, career mother

Sep. 04 2008 10:29 AM
chris

why hasn't brian et al done a basic fact check on the pain speech? it was full of lies about her and Barack's record. do the facts matter??

Sep. 04 2008 10:29 AM
Scott from Brooklyn

I am a community organizer, and the philosophy behind community organizing is pointedly NOT partisan. Organizing is concerned with marshaling power to solve problems--potholes, bad schools, whatever. It is a supremely pragmatic approach to politics. "No permanent friends, no permanent enemies," is a basic tenet. To say that Obama's life is a community organizer makes him a creature of the left betrays a lack of awareness of what organizing is. Obama's work as an organizer makes him a pragmatist.

Sep. 04 2008 10:29 AM
BORED

I found it absurd that the speakers spoke as if the people in the audience were somehow not responsible for the past eight years. If John McCain was so great what happened eight years ago when he ran. They speak about how pivotal an election this is but G W Bush is their guy. This was a weird experience watching them clap about the problems they caused.

Sep. 04 2008 10:28 AM
Derek from Brooklyn

Shouldn't the governor of Alaska need a jet? My impression is that many towns don't have road access and one has to fly or boat into them. Just sayin.

Sep. 04 2008 10:28 AM
Mike from Inwood

Smug sarcasm will only preach to the converted. I'm from a small town and this tack doesn't seem very small-town to me. She's not trying to communicate to women in the middle of the political spectrum, she's attempting to consolidate the base.

Sep. 04 2008 10:25 AM
KC from NYC

When did the Culture Wars end? I don't think the (center)left gets it; for two decades, they've been bringing squirt guns to this shootout. And wouldn't you know it, they keep getting decimated.

Sep. 04 2008 10:23 AM
America Wins with Palin from NYorkistan

Brian

I love this show! With your callers -- and posters here -- all one has to do is substitute Obama's in name for Palin in any criticism of Palin.

The hypocrisy is incredible.

Like: Palin has no experience.
Translation: Obama has no experience!

Obama is running for the TOP JOB ...carrying the football.

Sep. 04 2008 10:23 AM
hjs from 11211

washington elite. is she talking about mccain??

she had some good one liners, unlike rudy's hate filled rant

should the baby be in that noisy room? seemed a bit cruel

Sep. 04 2008 10:22 AM
michaelw from INWOOD

McCain & Palin are empty shirts.

Not well educated.

No thoughtful policy ideas. Or ideas in general.

McCain not a war hero. Please enough already.

Obama not my favorite however well educated.

A lawyer!

A president and a VP work with laws. It would be nice to have someone who knows what a law is.

Sep. 04 2008 10:22 AM
Christina from Manhattan

Caribou Barbie!

Sep. 04 2008 10:21 AM
CH from Staten Island

Here's the link for the "community organizer" bit

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YmMwODM1OWQxZDYxMDlmZjEwZDQ5YzQ4YzNlMmEwNmY=

Sep. 04 2008 10:21 AM
chris o from new york city

While the pundits are 'plauding, and the speech was effective in ways, it is possible that as the conservative base rallies to the ticket, the independents peel away. This ramped-up polarization in such a Republican-hostile environment is a dangerous tack. It will take a few weeks to see how things shake. I tend to agree with Peggy Noonan, "It's over." But maybe Palin can save them in 2012.

Sep. 04 2008 10:20 AM
Sean from NYC

What I thought was strange the Dem's attacked the policy of McCain. The Repub attacked the person. It just shows a lack of common respect for people.

Sep. 04 2008 10:20 AM
Joe from brooklyn

I found the use of derisive laughter in last night's convention a clever response to the Greek theme of the Democratic convention's stage set. Something that ancient Greeks politicians feared most was laughter, thinking it had almost magical powers to destroy one's standing.

I have to conclude that the sarcasm and derisive tone of last night's language was intentional in this way.

Sep. 04 2008 10:20 AM
the truth from Atlanta/New York

That speech was a good way to distract from her current family issues.

Sep. 04 2008 10:19 AM
Lance from Manhattan

Why are all the Republican women surrogates saying it is SEXIST for anyone to question Palin's decision to run for major office when she has young children at home, including a baby with special needs (and now has an unwed teenage daughter to boot)?

Isn't she running on a Christian social conservative "traditional family values" platform? (ie, women - rather than men - should sacrifice their own ambitions outside the home in service to the needs of their children?)

Sep. 04 2008 10:18 AM
Erin from Manhattan

Good night for the base. If you liked the zingers in Palin's speech, you probably weren't going to vote for Obama anyway. I think they made a mistake by not offering anything to the voters. Who is actually wooed to a party by these snarky remarks? Can we expect some policy tonight?

Sep. 04 2008 10:18 AM
the truth from Atlanta/New York

Spot on Lance.

Sep. 04 2008 10:18 AM
CB

@24 JL

Re: the whiteness of the crowd: I noticed the same thing from the bits of coverage I saw. Don't they usually at least push a few people of color in front of the cameras for show?

Sep. 04 2008 10:17 AM
O from Forest Hills

Born again Christians like the Republicans because they want to get rid of abortion and deny gay marriage to same sex couples(I include both lesbians and gay couples). They are only for them because the Bible is against both, abortion is supposedly murder and gay marriage is an "abomination" to the Lord. Bush is a Christian, McCainn is claiming to be one and Palin is Pentealmostgospel Pentecoastal Christian.

Sep. 04 2008 10:17 AM
Lance from Manhattan

"Community organizer" is racist code for African-American.

Sep. 04 2008 10:17 AM
Maggie Clarke, Ph.D. from Inwood

The government is the mirror of the people", so said Maharishi Mahesh Yogi so many decades ago. Last night we saw how low we've sunk as a people when someone who can read a teleprompter well with a speech she didn't write can sweep away a convention hall as well as all the pundits. The Republicans will keep her under wraps so that she doesn't have to respond to any substantive questions and for the debate she will be drilled in how to take any question and wave the flag. And the American people will buy it. How depressing.

Sep. 04 2008 10:17 AM
DAVID from NYC

Brian, its amazing how no one in the media talks about how the republicans are avoiding the issues and harping on personalities and no one has discussed how ashamed they are about how republicans have distroyed our economy that they have not even introduce (Dick Cheney) and you have not even heard any mention of him in this convention. they are ambarressed cant talk about the issues and only harp on personalities which is all they can do to try and defeat sen. Obama!

Sep. 04 2008 10:17 AM
the truth from Atlanta/New York

@51 - I agree, she attacked him for no cause, he has not yet said a negative word about her, neither has his campaign.

Sep. 04 2008 10:17 AM
Lance from Manhattan

Why are all the Republican women surrogates saying it is SEXIST for anyone to question Palin's decision to run for major office when she has young children at home, including a baby with special needs (and now has an unwed teenage daughter to boot)?

Isn't she running on a Christian social conservative "traditional family values" platform? (ie, women - rather than men - should sacrifice their own ambitions outside the home to the needs of their children?)

Sep. 04 2008 10:15 AM
Robert from Manhattan

The Republicans were getting their yuks last night saying that Obama had
never run anything.

We know that he has run at least one thing EXTREMELY well ... his campaign
for president, a multimillion dollar enterprise where executive smarts are
essential, especially the way this race has needed to be run.

This is not a race that his daddy's buddies are handing him, as occurred
eight years ago. And the obstacle that he needed to overcome for the
Democratic nomination was enormous. I mean the Clintons. This is not a
value judgment about the Clintons' character ... just their political heft
and the resources at their disposal, which rival those of the Bush crowd.
He outorganized them and frankly outsmarted them. This was no field of
relative equals with significant flaws like the one McCain just overcame.

Obama's victory in the Democratic race says much about his ability to run
things.

Separately ... did I really vote for Rudy Giuliani for mayor??? What a dishonest, ignorant monster he has become.

Sep. 04 2008 10:15 AM
Mo from manhattan

Palin's speech was very effective and powerful from a Republican perspective.

However, as a social worker I was greatly offended by her's and Guiliani's belittling of Obama's experience as a community organizer. Community organization is very difficult work. You need patience and an ability to bring people together. You work with the most vulnerable population in our country (the poor). It is noble work and it IS a tremendous responsibility Ms. Pailn! You are working for real change when you are a community organizer.

Sep. 04 2008 10:15 AM
CH from Staten Island

The "community organizer" bit came from a blog at National Review.

Sep. 04 2008 10:15 AM
Julie from manhattan, ny

She a hockey mom, shoots a gun, used to play basketball, and is involved with local politics. These seem to be the points that Republicans are harping on...I hereby nominate Sarah Palin for Homecoming Queen.

Has anyone asked Hilary Clinton about this nomination? Does the nomination of Sarah Palin cheapen Hilary's rise through the ranks and struggle to the nomination?

Sep. 04 2008 10:15 AM
the truth from Atlanta/New York

@32 got news for you buddy, Palin and McCain are above your paygrade as well! lol

Sep. 04 2008 10:15 AM
g.b. from brooklyn

I was really saddened by this speech. The tone was mean, the insults very below-the-belt, the cynicism and just blatant lies cringe-worthy.

The fact that there are people out there who ate this up makes me sad for America. As an independent Hispanic woman, this is not what I want for 4-8 more years. We've already HAD this condescending political tone for the past 8 years!

Sep. 04 2008 10:14 AM
Christina from Manhattan

So Thanks Brian, for elevating Sarah Palin to 'rock star' status. Why, because she made one speech, and you declared it so? OK, thanks, just like the rest of the pundits who tell us what we are supposed to think.

There was nothing there for the American voter. If making a hatefilled vicious attack speech directed towards the base, with no substance, avoiding all the issues that are important to anxious American voters means rock star, go for it.

To me it sounded like someone running for Student Council. Screechy, sneery, nosewrinkling has a long way to be rock star. And stop comparing her to Barack Obama.

Sep. 04 2008 10:14 AM
John from Brooklyn

Palin's speech was smug and sarcastic -- an exercise in, as one observer put it, "snot-nosed nastiness."

All this speech tells you is that she holed herself up in a hotel room for 5 days and practiced what McCain's Bush aides told her to say.

She made herself into a ventriloquist doll -- emphasis on "doll" -- for the production of Republican red meat.

Congratulations.

Sep. 04 2008 10:13 AM
KC from NYC

yeah yeah yeah, asking for a qualified candidate is sexism. Got it. Clever. Can I get on the email list so that I can just read the talking points myself every morning? Then we could devote this radio time to something interesting.

Sep. 04 2008 10:13 AM
chris

what sexism on the part of the media RE: Palin? what examples are there of "left leaning women" being sexist can the guest cite? that is myth that the GOP made up- don't let this guy get away with spreading lies further.

Sep. 04 2008 10:13 AM
SuzanneNYC from Upper West Side

Brian, would you look into the report that a Bush justice department political appointee in Colorado dismissed the charges against the two men stalking Obama in Denver last week. It surprised me at the time, now it seems that there maybe more to it.

Sep. 04 2008 10:12 AM
Heidi from Manhattan from Manhattan

Where were the answers on *ANY* issues... they weren't there... We are in serious trouble if the Republicans win.

Sep. 04 2008 10:12 AM
O from Forest Hills

When will the Republican Convention be over. I hope today is the last day.

Republicans think we have goo goo, good government syndrome.

They are like a child with a jack in the box filled with feces and the wind up box plays the song they want to hear and when the jack in the box pops up, all the garbage and bathroom waste (****) flies in their face and they clap their hands and say "Yeah, the baby." and clap like little children.

Let's hand them a towel and reality with Obama. Let's stand strong and have Obama win.

Sep. 04 2008 10:12 AM
America Wins with Palin from NYorkistan

@34 Lance

The issue is fairness. Obama has smartly decided to take the position that family should be left off the table.

Criticism of Palin's family would lead to further examination of Obama's.

Like the fact that Obama's father was married to another woman when he married Obama's mother. Bigamy is a crime btw.

Sep. 04 2008 10:12 AM
dr. sandra r. mann from new york city

it's wonderful SHE CAN READ A SPEECH that is perfectly written for her and rehearsed.

I knew when i first saw her introduced, she was a performer and could deliver a speech.

SCARY STUFF that i haven't heard one comment about her handlers and the speech writers.
Dr. sandra mann

Sep. 04 2008 10:12 AM
Kate from Queens

I thought she was great! well done. Let the games begin!!

I'm still voting for Obama but it was a great "speech."

However, one scripted speech does not a good VP make. I just wouldn't trust her as president which is ultimately the big question with a VP and a 70+ presidential candidate.

Kate
Queens, NY

Sep. 04 2008 10:11 AM
Steve (the other one) from Manhattan

@NYorkistan - Noonan (and what she wrote) is a joke - she got caught on an open mike saying the Palin nomination sinks the McCain candidacy.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/212920.php

Sep. 04 2008 10:11 AM
the truth from Atlanta/New York

Whatever caller, Trust me, she is NOT Latina!

Sep. 04 2008 10:11 AM
Susanna Gellert from Manhattan

Sarah Palin attacked community organizers last night. As you pointed out in your intro this morning, she attacked Obama as a community organizer more than once.
The media has given us no information about community organizing, a job which, to my knowledge, has a great deal of responsibility.
Please rectify this.

Sep. 04 2008 10:11 AM
Monica from Stamford, CT

I don't know why everyone keeps saying her speech was good. It was written for her and she was coached. And Obama was right; the ticket has nothing to say about themselves, it's still all about him. I thought the attacks were horribly unfair, especially coming from someone with less experience.

Sep. 04 2008 10:10 AM
BORED

@ #33 A president for all of us is not what we heard last night. Am I less American because I live in the city.

Sep. 04 2008 10:10 AM
CH from Staten Island

I found it rather illuminating that her speechwriters found it necessary in the teleprompter script to spell "nuclear" as "new-clear"...

Sep. 04 2008 10:10 AM
O from Forest Hills

She has 22 months experience, Obama has 12 years!

She is mayor of her town b/c she knew everyone there in little Alaska town. Was she a Senator?

I don't think so. I don't want that woman's finger on the nuclear bomb trigger.

OBAMA WILL BE PRESIDENT!!

Sep. 04 2008 10:09 AM
Lance from Manhattan

JL is right on target.
Why is it acceptable for Palin to talk so much about her son who has enlisted in the army, and her baby who she and her husband decided to have despite the high probability the baby would have special needs, and her own being "just a hockey mom," yet the press and the Democrats aren't allowed to talk about her family?

Sep. 04 2008 10:08 AM
America Wins with Palin from NYorkistan

@27 Bobby G

Sure there is hard work in community organizing. But it is what it is, it is ADVOCACY -- something a minority, Harvard-educated attorney Obama would probably be good at IN URBAN CHICAGO.

But EXECUTIVE office, be it CEO, mayor, governor, president, involves balancing the interests of various groups with competing interests -- it is fundamentally different.

We need a president for ALL of US.

Obama: "above my pay grade"...

Sep. 04 2008 10:07 AM
chris o from new york city

The other thing shameless about the Repugs (one of the many other things I should say) is the celebrity thing. Obama started out unknown and far, far behind in the polls. Through a long slog or 12-18 months, he just kept swaying people. He fought his way to the top, winning admirers along the way. It is fine to oppose him, doubt him, question him. It is also fine to support him, praise him and trust him. But nothing was given to him.

Sarah Palin on the other hand appears out of nowhere and all these rightwingers who KNOW NOTHING about her (except the bare biographical sketch) swoon and practically faint over her. They are like the little girls at Beatle concerts in 1964, just hysterical in their devotion. So they are the ones falling for shallow celebrity-like qualities.

Sep. 04 2008 10:06 AM
the truth from Atlanta/New York

Don't think I heard any concern for the middle class mentioned during the short time I was listening.

Sep. 04 2008 10:06 AM
Daniel Smith from Vienna by way of Brooklyn

Republicans carry Hammers and
when all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail

Sep. 04 2008 10:04 AM
chris o from new york city

Once again the Repugs have no shame. They say, How dare you say she can't be VP with all those children and family responsibilities. BUT NO, they are the ones that say that. They speak of family values, nuclear families. The only people who think women SHOULD stay home are on the right. (Many people on the left stay home but by choice and they don't oppose those who choose otherwise.)

So this line of attack is really an attack on their fundamentalist base which roars approvingly (clueless as usual) since it is presented as an attack on liberals even though they DO NOT hold this view.

Sep. 04 2008 10:03 AM
Bobby G from East Village

Community organizing is hard work, WITH RESPONSIBILITIES, that attempts to better the lives of those in need, often low income and minority. To belittle that work, as Sarah Palin did, is bullying.

Bullying is what George W. Bush's foreign policy has been for the past eight years. The result has been to weaken our nation.

To elect Palin and McCain would not be a change, but more of the same.

I don't want a pit bull with lipstick for our VP.

Sep. 04 2008 10:03 AM
the truth from Atlanta/New York

Typical republican attack.

Sep. 04 2008 10:03 AM
America Wins with Palin from NYorkistan

@23 Chris O

"[He] did a fine job with [his] speech but I find it funny that "just words" have people in a tizzy over [his] greatness."

there, fixed it for you.

Does anyone happen to have a copy of that messianic speech on race relations that was for SALE on the Obama website...that is before he had to FLOP and choke on it...what a few days later? Is it still available? That'll be worth some coin some day.

The hypocrisy REEKS.

Sep. 04 2008 09:58 AM
jl from manhattan

My two thoughts from watching last night were:

1. I was really surprised Palin spent so much time discussing her family, especially her son's impending military service and her infant's special needs. I thought they were trying to take her family off the table but she put it there front and center. I guess the takeaway message is that SHE can talk about her family for purposes of promoting her agenda but no one else can mention them.

2. I flipped back and forth between a couple of different stations and on each one I couldn't get over how "white" the crowd was. I think I saw one African American and that was it. To me it was shocking because it isn't remotely representative of where I live. I wonder if it was just the cameras or if the attendance at this convention is really this "white". People make jokes about it and I usually dismiss them but it was quite startling to see such a lack of ethnic diversity in a large political gathering. Didn't the Republicans used to try to have a "big tent"?

Sep. 04 2008 09:57 AM
chris o from new york city

She did a fine job with her speech but I find it funny that "just words" have people in a tizzy over her greatness. McCain says, "See how great she is." But if that is all it takes, then why not Brooke Shields or Meryl Streep for VP. I am sure they could have delivered a much stronger speech using the same words. But as Peggy Noonan said, she is not even close to the most qualified and it is a BS political choice.

The text was very generic conservative speech, dripping with contempt for Obama. Unlike Dems, I don't think the Repugs have said one genuinely nice thing about Obama. Liberals are soft fuzzy UnAmerican community organizers who will raise taxes. We are tough patriots who will cut taxes. Very, very tepid text with a good delivery.

And she straight up lied about the bridge to nowhere: "I said thanks but no thanks." Yes, she said thanks for years before she said no thanks when Congress said no. And she kept the $230M and they are using some of that to build a road to the bridge to nowhere. Except now there is no bridge!

Sep. 04 2008 09:55 AM
Daniel Smith from Vienna by way of Brooklyn

Well last night told us what the Republicans are against but it sure didn't tell us what they are for.
Rudy and Palin ignited the same old culture wars that have been dormant for awhile. This was Bush on Steroids.
Community Organizing is code for helping black people.
We know the score and while Palin's speech was well written by a former Bush scribe and well delivered by Palin. We know that the gloves are off and this is going to be a very ugly campaign. THey conceded the votes of Moderate Independents last night. This was music for people without ears, Preaching for people without souls.

Sep. 04 2008 09:49 AM
America Wins with Palin from NYorkistan

One could make the case that Palin is running against Obama for the top job, as everyone is comparing THESE two -- McCain and Biden are one the sidelines.

I think that Palin tops Obama on all counts!!

Sep. 04 2008 09:48 AM
andy from bkln

how offensive to dismiss the work of community organizers. was the attack on obama really worth this display of contempt for citizens (right, left, independent) who work for the betterment of their communities?

also, i imagine its super loud in those convention halls...if theyre going to have her baby on the stage all the time shouldnt someone put some earplugs or something on him? whenever i see him up there it makes me quite anxious

Sep. 04 2008 09:46 AM
Mitchell Wright from Brooklyn, ny

Brian,
Last nights speech from Rudy Giuliani made me cringe, I am so thankful he is not the republican candidate. I noticed one thing in the speech that made me especially uncomfortable about the man. At first I couldn't believe he said it, but checking the transcript this morning, he did say it. Here's the qoute : "Please tell me, who are they insulting if they say 'Islamic terrorism?' They are insulting terrorist."
Am I reading this the wrong way or is he saying you insult a terrorist by adding the word Islamic in front of it?

Sep. 04 2008 09:37 AM
America Wins with Palin from NYorkistan

There is a cool T-shirt on Cafe Press, with the line, "I am Sarah Palin. Her story is my story."

- hardworking moms
- PTA volunteers
- loving wives
- successful executives
- Democrats & Republicans...

Making history for American women!

Sep. 04 2008 09:32 AM
Sue from North Salem, NY

Palin (while applying lipstick): "It's not rocket science. It's 53 employees and $6 million...so what is it a VP does all day?"

Sep. 04 2008 09:31 AM
Chuck from Brooklyn

When are the Republicans actually going to talk about policy?

When are they going to talk about anything of substance?

The RNC is all attacks. All this "value" crap.

Same old, same old.

They don't say anything!

Sep. 04 2008 09:28 AM
Chris from Brooklyn

American Wins with Palin,

Don't buy that Noonan "narrative." She was also caught on mic yesterday saying Palin was nothing but "political b****s****" and of the election, "it's over."

Sep. 04 2008 09:28 AM
America Wins with Palin from NYorkistan

Palin:

"I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a "community organizer," except that you have actual responsibilities."

;)

Sep. 04 2008 09:27 AM
Chris from Brooklyn

It was snark over substance. It sounded more like a blog entry than a campaign speech.

Sep. 04 2008 09:20 AM
CH from Staten Island

I am thinking the sarcasm and the snarky, mocking tone that was the consistent thread throughout last night's prime-time speeches may have played quite well with the base. But that isn't who the GOP needs to win.

And I also think the cynicism about community organizers will come back and bite the "pit bull in lipstick" that barked it.

Sarah Palin is John McCain's "bridge to nowhere." Hopefully a better "Palin" will give us a new BBC/PBS series soon to redeem the surname.

Sep. 04 2008 09:18 AM
America Wins with Palin from NYorkistan

Peggy Noonan, in today's Wall Street Journal:

"Because she jumbles up so many cultural categories, because she is a feminist not in the Yale Gender Studies sense but the How Do I Reload This Thang way, because she is a woman who in style, history, moxie and femininity is exactly like a normal American feminist and not an Abstract Theory feminist; because she wears makeup and heels and eats mooseburgers and is Alaska Tough, as Time magazine put it; because she is conservative, and pro-2nd Amendment and pro-life; and because conservatives can smell this sort of thing -- who is really one of them and who is not -- and will fight to the death for one of their beleaguered own; because of all of this she is a real and present danger to the American left, and to the Obama candidacy."

Sep. 04 2008 09:17 AM
Sue from North Salem, NY

Lipstick? Maybe Max Factor will design and name a new shade for her: Palin Pink, Palinicious, Brown Sugar Sarah. VP Vermillion.

This will surely bring in the women's vote.

(eye roll)

Sep. 04 2008 09:04 AM
Steve Mark from NYC

The trouble with Democrats is their amazingly thn skins. You have to look at the conventions of both sides as giant pep rallies. As the next 60 days roll out, voters should get off their butts and start reading and reading and reading. And listening to 30 issues in 30 days. It's the Obamatons vs the McCaniacs and their respective fans need to grow up and stop sniping at each other. So if a Democrat really wants to stop the atacks agsinst their guy, they have to stop their attacks against the other guy. Otherwise, forget it, get usd to it and stop the whining.

Sep. 04 2008 08:56 AM
America Wins with Palin from NYorkistan

Outstanding! Hot! Hot! Hot!

Q: What is the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull?

A: Lipstick

Sep. 04 2008 07:58 AM
Peter from Flatbush, Brooklyn

Anyone see the "hottest VP, from the coldest state" buttons...classy

Sep. 04 2008 07:36 AM
Peter from Flatbush, Brooklyn

The Straw-man Cometh:

All I kept hearing last night is that"they" have leveled sexist attacks against Palin. Who are/is the "they" who said Palin can't be a mother and VP? I've followed the election closely - probably more closely then is good - and I haven't seen it in the MSM, Dems or the Left's Blogs.
I did see it from Dr. Laura - the right's family maven.
http://www.drlaurablog.com/2008/09/02/sarah-palin-and-motherhood/
You might get attacked form fringes - but to conflate that with legitimate questions of experience.....really?

Sep. 04 2008 07:21 AM
seth from Long Island

As a diehard critic of Rudy Giuliani, his performance lived down to all of my expectations. He was bullying, dismissive, and dripping with contempt – vintage Rudy. I’m very pleased he no longer holds public office and hope that he never gets elected to another position in government ever again.

Sep. 04 2008 04:48 AM
seth from Long Island

Palin and other speakers went full throttle bashing the liberal media. Palin and the Republicans are trying to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Because of a few salacious personal rumors that circulated in the blogosphere, they want to cut off all media scrutiny. This is baloney. Palin is a brand new candidate running for the second highest job in our govt. The media needs to examine her professional career thru an electron microscope.

The media must hold its ground and not let Palin beat it into submission. There are many legit stories to pursue on Palin without sinking into tabloid trash. She should be asked to explain her views on global warming, intelligent design, and censorship. The press needs to follow up on the bridge to nowhere because she lied once again about the position she took regarding the project. There’s also a story about her connection to a pro-Ted Stevens 527 group.

Sep. 04 2008 04:46 AM
seth from Long Island

At its core, Palin’s speech was divisive, obnoxious, and dishonest. When she was on the attack, I was reminded of a quote from the late GOP strategist Lee Atwater. When describing the campaign he planned to run against Michael Dukakis in 1988, he said he planned to “strip the bark off the little expletive”. As an Obama supporter, I found her smarmy, mocking tone to be tasteless. As repulsive as I found her content, her delivery was pitch perfect. She moved seamlessly from telling her personal story to landing low blows on Obama. She’s one part America’s Sweetheart and one part barroom brawler. I watched some post-game reaction and Slate.com’s Tim Noah was correct when he predicted all the pundits would love her speech.

Sep. 04 2008 04:42 AM
eva

Wow, red meat indeed. I could only watch part of the Palin speech. Unabashedly vicious. Someone compared her sneer to Tracy Flick. But Tracy wasn't really vicious, just ambitious and frustrated. This was something else.
On the offhand chance that, say, 90% of women have already had bad junior high experiences with a mean girl, I'd say there's hope for Obama. There's no way we're going through with any kind of Stockholm Syndrome-inspired voting support for THIS Republican woman. (Give us the ever-stylish and understated Olympia Snowe!)
The problem for Sarah Palin is that she has to convince more than just the party faithful. And in the meantime, the viciousness with which she attacked Obama will send a lot of fence-sitters to the Obama camp, and reinvigorate his supporters to donate time and money.
The "all-important" visual: finally, the hair is, if not off her face, then at least out of her eyes. (She's applying for VP, not a pharmaceutical sales rep!) When I switched from the radio to the live feed, I had the same gut feeling I had when I first saw Mitt Romney, after a year of hearing him only on the radio. I thought, uh-oh, that's the all-American, the one they're going to pick.
But in the end, Romney didn't make the shortlist, despite the enthusiasm of the Club for Growth. So maybe it's a good sign.

Sep. 04 2008 12:55 AM
Chuck from Brooklyn

"A perfect demonstration of the McCain-Palin ticket and future governing pattern -- act on impulse, cover it up by lying, demonstrate over and over that your own ambitions are more important than security and good governance."

Sep. 03 2008 11:57 PM

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