Son of ARC: Mayor Bloomberg Wants to Extend Subway Across Hudson

Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 10:54 PM

(Andrea Bernstein, Transportation Nation) New Jersey Governor Chris Christie killled the ARC tunnel twice, but it still won't die.

Now New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg wants to build a transit tunnel under the Hudson, extending the number 7 subway train -- a new line under construction -- to New Jersey.  The project is projected to cost $5.3 billion, about half the ARC's pricetag.

Once, it  almost seemed like Mayor Michael Bloomberg was indifferent to the project's death.  "We are not a party to this," the Mayor said at a city hall news conference as the ARC tunnel was flatlining.  "This is a Port Authority Project...They have their own financial problems and they can afford some things and not others."

But around the same time

the New York Department of City Planning was coming up with the idea to extend the number 7 to New Jersey, an idea that was quickly embraced by Deputy Mayor for Economic Development Robert Steel and the Hudson Yards Development Corporation, according to a city official familiar with the process.  Unlike the ARC tunnel, an extension of the number 7 would start at 11th Avenue and go west, avoiding the costly proposition of boring a tunnel under Manhattan to Herald Square.  It would also instantly take riders to Grand Central station, a holy grail of the ARC project. But it would not necessarily have the same capacity as the ARC, because trains wouldn't be arriving on several Manahttan platforms, as commuter trains do, but not subways.  And New Jersey transit riders, who were projected to save an average of 45 minutes on their commute times to Manhattan, would have to switch trains, potentially eliminating much of that time savings.

A city hall official stressed the project was a "very, very early exploration," and has not been discussed with the MTA, Governor-Elect Andrew Cuomo, or Chris Christie. The MTA isn't commenting.  "We haven't had a chance to study the proposal," said MTA spokesman Jeremy Soffin.   The U.S.DOT also declined comment, and many experts believe that the city wouldn't be automatically entitled to the $3 billion Governor Christie is returning to the federal government, and would instead have to go through a competitive application to get the money.

But U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood has expressed dismay at the death of the ARC, saying he was "extremely disappointed" with Governor Christie's decision, and he has been a big proponent of public transit.

"Extending the 7 line to New Jersey could address many of the region's transportation capacity issues at a fraction of the original tunnel's cost," said Andrew Brent, a city hall spokesman.

Transit advocate Gene Russianoff said the extension of the 7 project had some "appeal -- but where's the money going to come from."?

Indeed the 7 line extension has never been funded by the MTA, but has been paid for by the city.  It was intially pushed by former Deputy Mayor Dan Doctoroff when it was part of his plan to build a stadium and convention center on the west side of Manhattan.

Neysa Pranger, a spokeswoman for the Regional Plan Association, also expressed qualified support for bringing the number 7 to New Jersey, noting the project accomplishes "two of the three goals' of the ARC project" -- a direct line to Grand Central and increased transit capacity from New York to New Jersey, but not the goal of a one-seat ride from New Jersey to Manhattan. A one-seat ride is a big lure for riders to switch from their cars to public transit.


Comments [2]


I was a little shocked to hear Andrea say on Brian Lehrer's show that Bloomberg has always been in favor of mass transit. In his first term he vetoed a bill that would have mandated 1/2 hour Staten Island Ferry service and threatened to sue if his veto was overidden. I'm also shocked that you can discuss putting a subway stop in N.J. without mentioning the fact that there isn't one in Staten Island where half a million New Yorkers live. Why should City funds provide mass transit to another state when a whole Boro lacks the same access.

Nov. 17 2010 10:28 AM

This is all very exciting, but average readers need to know that a major transit project in a "very early exploration" phase means it will take 15-25 years before end of construction, if it is built it all.

Nov. 17 2010 10:17 AM

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