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Thatcher Today

Monday, April 08, 2013

Former British PM Margaret Thatcher died this morning. British journalist Alan Cowell of The New York Times, currently reporting from Paris, discusses how Thatcher is viewed in the UK today. Plus: your calls. How do you view Margaret Thatcher today? Post your thoughts below or call 212-433-9692

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Comments [25]

Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

LOL ... IT DOESN'T GET ANY MORE SURREAL THAN ... the illiterate anonymous losers here (with a keyboard their mom bought them for their birthday) smearing a dead Margaret Thatcher.

You wish you had such a life....

Apr. 08 2013 05:45 PM

Should'a stayed with the groceries!

Apr. 08 2013 05:15 PM

The Falklands:

Britain suffered 258 killed and 777 wounded.

Argentina; 649 killed, 1,068 wounded

For absolutely NOTHING!

NOTHING!

Apr. 08 2013 05:14 PM

Evil Incarnate.

Apr. 08 2013 05:09 PM
Zeggae from Nj

Maggie Thatcher along with Reagan were the biggest supporters of apartheid in South Africa. Thousands died and countless suffered immeasurably because of those 2 including Mandela. He is still here as a testimony to international morality. Which thatcher opposed. Their blood will be forever on her shoulders.

Apr. 08 2013 12:54 PM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

@Joe, so I guess, accountants for the likes of the Beatles were setting up offshore bank accounts for the hell of it.

I am not an apologist for Thatcherism but regardless of the system or party - the powerful and well connected will always be so. Thatcher was one of the rare few to tell us so.

Apr. 08 2013 12:29 PM
Joe from nearby

@Sheldon-

Yeah, that "90%" was a nominal rate- it didn't count all the LOOPHOLES available to the rich to slice that rate down....like they always rig the rules in their favor. They can't help it- like the scorpion, it's in their nature. Yeah, there's a 'utopia' all right....for them alone.

Who are you kidding.

Apr. 08 2013 11:58 AM
David from New York

What a horrible person, and what a sad commentary on our society that so many are praising her legacy. The UK has the most unequal economy in Western Europe, with the biggest split between rich and poor---this is directly attributable to Thatcher's premiership. And preach no more, please, about her opposition to communism; what's remarkable about Thatcher isn't that she opposed the Soviets, but that as between them and the striking miners, she could see no difference.

... and Brian, she wasn't the first female leader of a Western state. Golda Meir, or if you like, Queen Elizabeth.

Apr. 08 2013 11:46 AM
Robert from NYC

why do people die after they cause damage! ta ta

Apr. 08 2013 11:44 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Yes Joe, sounds so simple, and the alternative of Britons paying up to 90% of their income to a state that owned or controlled over 50% of the economy is your utopia is it?

Apr. 08 2013 11:42 AM
Dan

"Goodbye is too good a word, girl-
so I'll just say fare thee well"

-Bob Dylan

Apr. 08 2013 11:39 AM

Hear, Hear... Joe from nearby!!

Apr. 08 2013 11:39 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Unlike Reagan, Thatcher actually had an ideology, as opposed to a just a movement.

Apr. 08 2013 11:39 AM
Joe from nearby

"Harsh Medicine"??!

Yes- harsh medicine.
...............But ONLY for the middle class & poor to swallow, and exempting the wealthy, who've gone on their merry way.

Good riddance!

Apr. 08 2013 11:38 AM
Jon from Manhattan

Speak to most Brits who were living in the UK at the time, and the havoc she bestowed on her people is not well regarded. I for one think that the invention of new financial instruments and North Sea oil had more to do with pulling the UK out of its economic doldrums that the harsh medicine of Thatcherism.

Apr. 08 2013 11:37 AM
Jerry

What about Ms. Thatcher's embrace of Pinochet of Chile and indirectly his human rights crimes?

Apr. 08 2013 11:37 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

When socialism has to compete with free enterprise, socialism invariably loses.

Apr. 08 2013 11:37 AM

Dog bless you, Em!!

Apr. 08 2013 11:35 AM
Sheldon from Broooklyn

I remember in an interview, someone asked Mrs. Thatcher, "Why did [Soviet] communism fail and she said - "because it went against human nature"

I thank her for that answer.

Most of my British friends despise her and I couldn't care for her apathetic nature towards South African apartheid and the working class.

HOWEVER - she saved a quasi-socialist Britain from choking on its own fat and malaise.

She did a lot of the dirty work that Old Labour did not want to do. Tony Blair and "New Labour" reaped the benefits. Her views on European integration, looking back now probably was right after-all.

Apr. 08 2013 11:35 AM
Stephen from prospect heights

Similar to Reagan send-off, I am already shocked and exhausted by the collective amnesia concerning Maggie. Just reveals that NPR is not really an alternative any longer.

Apr. 08 2013 11:34 AM
Em

It's on days like these you wonder why does Beelzebub have all the fun? They'll be one huge bonfire down below tonight. Not quite as big as the ones waiting for Kissinger and Cheney, but they'll still be quite a blaze. Something tells me St. Francis will be striking the first match. Fair dues.

Unfortunately I'll have to avoid the Beeb for the next few days that's for sure. Yawn.

Apr. 08 2013 11:34 AM

GEEEEEZUS!!!

Here we go with revisionist history of this dead Friedmanite, neo-liberal despot.

The same crap that happened when her friend, the "Cowboy" died.

SO STUPID!!

Apr. 08 2013 11:34 AM
mimette from NY

Assuming Israel is a Western country, Golda Meir was the first female leader of a Western country.

Apr. 08 2013 11:33 AM

1. what was the thatcher government reaction to AIDS. i know reagan didn’t do much to protect our citizens.

2. maybe the USSR would have fell without reagan/thatcher. im not so sure they were so important to that part of history

Apr. 08 2013 11:32 AM
Michelle Lewis from Brooklyn, NY

The most wonderful example of how leading questions can work in polling from Yes, Minister: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA

Apr. 08 2013 11:22 AM

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