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Monday, June 09, 2008

New York City Councilwoman Letitia James(D-35), representing Brooklyn and a member of the council committee on oversight and investigations, talks about her new report revealing lax oversight of the state Milk Price Gouging Law. Councilman Eric Gioia, D-26 (Queens), chair of the City Council's Committee on Oversight and Investigations, weighs in.

Guests:

Eric Gioia and Letitia James

Comments [30]

Joachim Carels from At work in midtown

I wonder if the price of milk in NYC is also higher because self life. If you notice on milk sold in NYC it has two sell by dates, one for NYC and one for outside NYC. The retailers have something like 3 or 5 days less to sell the milk in NYC. Does this result in them throwing way milk forcing them to sell milk for more money.

Jun. 09 2008 10:51 AM
chestinee

to gary g

"Fresh raw milk, from cows eating well-manured green grass is a living unprocessed whole food. Compare this to the supposedly "healthy" soy milk which has been washed in acids and alkalis, ultrapasteurized, then allowed to sit in a box for many months."

read more on realmilk.com - they will tell you more about the clever media work of the soy and vegetable oil industries.

did you know that you can't even make yogurt from ultrapasteurized milk, it's so dead?

Jun. 09 2008 10:50 AM
jennifer from new jersey

jenny beat me to it. i am not vegan, and do drink and give my kids plenty of milk, but i was surprised that brian did't question the councilman's assertion that "milk is essential" no one needs milk (or bread or meat) to survive although statements like the above have conditioned us to think we do.-the price gouging alone is a legitimate issue for a basic staple..on the other hand, the cost of water... (i know it's "free" from the tap but for how long?)

Jun. 09 2008 10:40 AM
hjs from 11211

Paul
great points. i was thinking how does she know where we'll be in 11 years. although i feel the voters should control term limits, in practice the power of incumbency is so powerful in the current 2 party system, i could never vote to end term limits. the founders planned on a citizen legislature not a profession class of people who couldn't make it in the real world.

Jun. 09 2008 10:37 AM
Meg Crane from New York City

Dry skim milk is available in most supermarkets, in 10 envelope ( one quart) packages. Usually priced around $11 or 12 dollars. Or just over one dollar per quart. Maybe not the most palatable milk, but affordable.

Jun. 09 2008 10:37 AM
Shane from West 87 St.

Councilwoman James repeaded "I want", "I want", "I want" so many times it was clear that she wants, what she wants, as long as She Wants It. What about the what the people want? Humm...She made a fantastic case for why we require term limits. Thanks for the lesson!

Jun. 09 2008 10:36 AM
Randal from Queens

Paul,

Voter vigilance, honest ballots and transparent procedures are the ONLY solution to the problem of unresponsive representation. Apart from the personal integrity of representatives and their staffs, how responsive need a rep be in the last term? In rare cases, they may want your vote when they move on to a higher office. But even then, the incentive is to sell you out if it will gain more votes from other districts. Term limits simply make shift power to staff and bureaucrats, who aren't elected at all.

Jun. 09 2008 10:34 AM
Anthony from Staten Island

My grandmother to cut food costs would cut all her milk with 50% powdered milk. It worked and we all got used to it and it was cost effective.

Jun. 09 2008 10:33 AM
Robert Brady from Riverside CT

Are the prices "guidelines" or "regulated rates"? If only guidelines are you fomenting "milk vigilantyism"?

Jun. 09 2008 10:32 AM
Jenny

Milk is NOT a necessity. This is myth. They need calcium and Vitamin D, that is true. Milk is viewed as unhealthy by many leading nutritionists and physicians. Much of the world exists without a diet of cow dairy at all.

Jun. 09 2008 10:32 AM
chestinee

cheap milk is industrial milk - not only is it full of additives and hormones they don't have to mention, it's ultrapasteurized - you can't make yogurt from it - si it is probably doing more harm tahn good - no vitamins (cows never see the sunlight, live in filth in confinement, are fed corn when they should be fed grass) kids don't need THAT!

Jun. 09 2008 10:31 AM
Christopher Benton from Bed-Stuy

You don't "need" milk. There are plenty of other sources of calcium and vitamins.

Jun. 09 2008 10:30 AM
Jay Reilly from Bellmore, LI

Perhaps a temporary tax break on milk would help parents of young children get through the summer. Oh, but of course, how foolish of me! That wouldn't solve the problem so why bother?

Jun. 09 2008 10:30 AM
anonymous from park slope

Water is a necessity yet the city keeps raising the price instead of making an effort to collect from deadbeats who don't pay their bill.

Jun. 09 2008 10:29 AM
Randal from Queens

Your guest mentioned bodegas. Does the size of the store figure into the price? A small deli has understandable reason to charge higher prices on everything.

On the other hand, many normal size NYC grocery stores no longer display unit price labels on their shelves. One manager said they're too small to do that, implying that they don't have to, or that it's too difficult. That's BULL. They did it for decades okay, and the store is the same size now as always.

Jun. 09 2008 10:28 AM
Susan Parker from NYC

Other necessities: housing, healthcare, fruits and vegetables. Get a grip!

Jun. 09 2008 10:28 AM
brien swann from brooklyn

why do children need milk???

milk is for fattening up baby cows, not children!

Jun. 09 2008 10:28 AM
markbnj from www.markbnj/blogspot.com or my-poem-a-day.blogspot.com

Please Note that

Milk CAN be safely FRozen.

If you freeze non-fat (skim milk) it won't have any 'dot's in in when you defrost it.

To defrost, simply take it, put it in refrigerator one full day before you need it.

Jun. 09 2008 10:27 AM
mc from Brooklyn

No term limits for legislators, term limits for chief executives.

Jun. 09 2008 10:27 AM
rachael from Manhattan

Does that include organic 1%, 2%, skim, etc?

Jun. 09 2008 10:25 AM
JJ from NYC

"legal" price of food? what? let the free market decide the press.

Jun. 09 2008 10:25 AM
Paul from New York

The only way that we ever have any turnover in our city government is through term limits. Our Assembly members seem to serve lifetime terms, and only seem to be changed by the extremely undemocratic system of "special elections" where candidates are chosen by the parties. Term limits have been a boon for this city and are extremely popular. I was disturbed to hear the council member refer to her 11 year term. It shows that all members take their re-election for granted. The only way we can have new people in government is to keep term limits.

Jun. 09 2008 10:24 AM
Brian Ashman from Bay Ridge, Brooklyn

This month's threshold: http://www.agmkt.state.ny.us/DI/ThresholdPrice2008-06.pdf

All threshold info: http://www.agmkt.state.ny.us/DI/DIStats.html

Jun. 09 2008 10:23 AM
elaine from Maplewood

It's so hot, I wanted to go into the office today - though we have the day off for a Jewish holiday {Shavuot] - because the air conditioning is better there.

Jun. 09 2008 10:23 AM
mark from Washington Heights

Who is this fool? She is so full of herself.

Jun. 09 2008 10:19 AM
no atlantic yards from brooklyn

WE LOVE YOU TISH!!!

Jun. 09 2008 10:18 AM
Susan Parker from NYC

I used to live in an upstate dairy farming community, and this price-fixing seems remarkably short-sighted. Dairy farmers are already going out of business or aging out, with no one to take their place in this difficult, time-consuming, uncertain work. With increases in feed prices, energy costs, etc., more farmers will give up. Why should they alone bear the burden of subsidizing a needed product?

Jun. 09 2008 10:15 AM
gary g from NYC

cows "milk" is a disgusting product made from the torture and abuse of said creatures, not to mention that it is not healthy for humans,

gee how about some discussion about soymilk or rice milk,

Jun. 09 2008 10:14 AM
Frances from NYC

how about some comments on the myth that milk is healthy?? many many humans beings are allergic to milk, and, even for the ones that aren't, milk is really not as healthy as the dairy industry would have us believe..
http://www.milksucks.com/index2.asp
http://www.notmilk.com/
http://virtualatdp.berkeley.edu:8081/philosophy/_2/_2/3

two cases in point:
1) many kids with ear infections, the ear infection goes away if you take away dairy from their diet, how many people know THAT?? (do dr's tell their patients this? I doubt it..)
2) dairy is also VERY BAD for anybody with sinus problems or anybody with any respiratory problems..

(as far as the calcium issue, we can get ALL the calcium we need from vegetables, fruit, and other foods, which are a healthier source of calcium than milk or cheese, which are loaded with fat...)

human beings are the only mammals who continue to drink milk after we are weaned.. does THAT tell you something??

(pls withhold my name if you read this on the air, I don't need the wrath of the dairy industry to breathe down my throat..)

thanks...

Jun. 09 2008 10:05 AM
Robert from park slope

How flexible is the law in allowing producers (and retailers) to recoop prices of inputs? With energy costs (petroleum and electricity) rising, any price control will likely pinch the producers and the unintentional result may be reduced supply (putting additional upward pressure on prices). Does the law allow for rapid adjustments in such cases?

Jun. 09 2008 10:00 AM

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