Widening the Gun Debate

Tuesday, March 26, 2013

Congress continues to debate gun legislation, and Mayor Bloomberg is launching a huge ad campaign around the issue. New York Times columnist Joe Nocera wants to look beyond background checks and capacity limits. He's keeping track of daily gun violence and asks, "Why can't we childproof guns?"


Joe Nocera

Comments [15]

Bruce Eden, Member, Second Amendment Foundation

And, why doesn't Joe Nocera look into how many times each day and each year that a gun saves lives or stops crime???????

Mar. 27 2013 11:11 PM
Bruce Eden, Member, Second Amendment Foundation

"The Second Amendment to the Constitution protects citizens' right to self-defense. It speaks to history's lesson that government cannot be in all places at all times, and history's warning about the oppression of a government that tries," they wrote, concluding, "We will oppose the motion to proceed to any legislation that will serve as a vehicle for any additional gun restrictions."

U.S. Senate

Mar. 27 2013 11:09 PM
resident alien from Williamsburg


a car can be as dangerous as a weapon, therefore it must be registered and the operator needs to be licensed.
a firearm is a dangerous weapon...
you take it from here...

Mar. 26 2013 06:26 PM

I think the 2nd Amendment is misinterpreted and antiquated. It begins with the phrase, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

The key words are, "in a militia" When that was written (1791), ordinary citizens were called on to protect themselves and their colony from the English at a moments notice. We have no longer needed ad hoc militias for at least a century. Today we have the gamut of armed forces, well developed police departments across the nation. Guns are no longer needed for the 2nd amendment's original purpose, they need to be taken away from the general public, regardless of subsequent judicial rulings.

Mar. 26 2013 10:56 AM

1. Guns don't kill people, crazy people with ready access to guns kill people.
2. (1.) follows the same logic as that Pit Bull Terriers are no more dangerous than Yorkshires, it is the owner who is the cause.
3. I don't recall hearing of a child being killed by a rampaging Yorkshire Terrier.

Mar. 26 2013 10:32 AM
resident alien from Williamsburg

Novel idea:
a central gun registry that is NOT run by the government, but the gun manufacturer association!
No law abiding, responsible gun owner should be afraid of an universal back ground check AND an unbroken, documented chain of custody, meaning a central database of every registered firearm in the US!!!
woah, before the NRA anti government paranoids start howling, here is the novel idea/compromise: Don't let the government run & administer this central database/registry - Let it be set up & run BY THE ASSOCIATION OF GUN MANUFACTURERS.

They have the resources & already the initial information (serial#), etc. Should a firearm have been involved in a crime, law enforcement agencies can get a COURT ORDER to check with the database.
Every change of ownership has to be cleared & reported to this database!
The firearm database should be checked/flagged against a database of felons & people with mental health, drug problems,...
Such a system could be set up with a minimum invasion of privacy/big brother control and still give the maximum protection that firearms are kept out of the hands of criminals, etc...
Of course, any database is only as good as the data that it's in there. So, to give the gun manufacturers an incentive to build & maintain the best database possible, come up with a fine/fee structure to keep it honest & up to date...
Shooting guns can be fun, it's the cleanup that's the bitch!

thanks for listening!

btw, if such database needs a name, how's about "Ralf registry" ;-)

Mar. 26 2013 10:27 AM

by logic of the NRA, we should all be able to keep vials of plutonium and anthrax in our homes, after all vials of plutoniumg and athrax don't kill people... people who dump them in a city's water supply kill people.. and responsible people won't release them.

Mar. 26 2013 10:25 AM

@Robert Plautz

Permit holders now have the option to opt-out of FOIA releases.

Mar. 26 2013 10:24 AM
Robert Plautz

Please clarify something regarding the recent New York gun legislation. Is it correct that as a compromise to get something passed, the legislation eliminated and barred public disclosure of who has a gun permit or license and also barred public disclosure of where the person lives. I believe that the Upstate newspaper that disclosed this information shortly after the shooting in Newtown did a public service. Is it correct that under the new legislation such disclosure would not be possible?

Thank you,

Robert Plautz
New York City

Mar. 26 2013 10:21 AM
Z from Brooklyn

How is it possible that people are more worried about a national registry of gun owners than they are about a national registry of people who've been to see a psychologist? Only by imagining that they are not and never will have any mental problems....

Mar. 26 2013 10:20 AM

we have "Gun Nuts" we also have "Anti-Gun Nuts"?

Mar. 26 2013 10:19 AM

good call Richard

Mar. 26 2013 10:18 AM
The Truth from Becky

Oh here we go, you repubs are so let's blame this on mental health issues

Mar. 26 2013 10:17 AM

Maybe Bloomberg should give his guns up and lead by example.

Mar. 26 2013 10:12 AM

Make that "archetypal," not "prototypical."

Mar. 26 2013 10:11 AM

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