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GOP Slams GOP

Wednesday, March 20, 2013

GOP Headquarters Sign, Georgetown, Delaware (flickr/elipousson)

Republican leaders have issued a blistering 100-page assessment of their party. Reihan Salam, writer for the National Review's "The Agenda" policy blog, discusses the report about how to regroup for 2016--and how better to do outreach to ethnic minorities, women, and young people.

Guests:

Reihan Salam

Comments [35]

Noach (Independent, anti-Corporate,anti-War) from Brooklyn

There is an at least /more/ authentically, principled conservative alternative to the Republican Party that people should be aware of:
The Constitution Party

I voted for Constitution Party presidential candidate Virgil Goode in the last election, despite considerable considerable differences I had in a number of areas.

It was a difficult decision but I felt and still feel that "all things considered", I made the best choice.

The only other candidate on the ballot who I voted for was John Mangelli for senate. Again, despite considerable differences.

I did write-ins for all the other offices.

Think of what could be accomplished if more people would vote for third-parties and do write-ins. If enough people do, Washington would get the message that the Democrat-Republican duopoly; two wings of the same bird of prey, is unacceptable.

Mar. 20 2013 02:06 PM
Jim

@Mike from Tribeca

Yes, they've learned their lesson and will now be favoring the more progressive "vote twice" absentee/early voting approach to election fraud.

Mar. 20 2013 12:27 PM
Mike from Tribeca

I guess they left out the chapter "Handy Voter Suppression Tips" for a later edition.

Mar. 20 2013 11:45 AM

@Jim. No...and there is no ONE answer. The US actually does have a potential underpopulation problem, but that's a whole other issue. I just don't like the phrase "redistribution of wealth". When wealth goes to the top it's called Capitaism, but when propositions for a stronger middle class are suggested it's called Socialism.

Mar. 20 2013 11:10 AM
Jim

@Rich_P

And encouraging middle class people to have more children IS the answer?

Mar. 20 2013 10:58 AM

@Jim, WHAT WEALTH?!?!?!? That's my point!!!
Having the "middle class" fight over the crumbs on the table is not a sustainable model.

Mar. 20 2013 10:54 AM

Hey GOP, please stop parading the few brown people in your party as a symbol of diversity. It's uncreative, insulting and obvious when we keep seeing the same faces over and over again.

Mar. 20 2013 10:50 AM
Mark from LI

Bob from Brooklyn, that's exactly my point. Living in NYC you may think that the entire world is gay, up to 50%. But that's not the fact. A recent government survey found that 4 percent of adults aged 18-45 identified as 'homosexual' or 'bisexual. Type that exact phrase into Google, and you'll see my source. Just because Brooklyn has different numbers doesnt mean the rest of the world does.

As a liberal I fear that you perhaps previously "couldn't believe Nixon had won", since no one you knew had voted for him. Did you know there are 13.5 million people who identify as Jewish in the entire world? The entire world. Look that one up too. That's 0.1% of the world population. And just in the US it's 3%.

In your world these numbers may be higher, but I think you have to understand that in the global world these are not issues. Issues for the Globe are education and food.

Mar. 20 2013 10:48 AM
Jim

@Rich_P

Huh? So if a middle class couple with no children has their "wealth" redistributed to a middle class couple with four children, this is good for the middle class?

Mar. 20 2013 10:45 AM
Mike from Tribeca

The GOP is already on the right track -- young voters can't get enough of creepy dancing elephants in three-piece suits.

Mar. 20 2013 10:43 AM

The middle class is squeezed to the margins and I read someone here using the phrase "redistribution of wealth". There goes that "arithmetic" problem that Bill Clinton talked about.

Mar. 20 2013 10:41 AM
John from Fanwood, NJ

Read yesterday's op-ed in the Times by Congressman Paul Brown. He wants to balance the budget in 4 years even if it wrecks the economy, and get rid of lots of "bloated" government agencies. Block grants to states will take care of all the people who need assistance. As if! Granted, Rep. Brown is a fringe Tea Party guy, but that's who's steering the Republican party these days. I've always been amused by people like Brown who decry the evil government in Washington, DC, when they are the government. The best way to reform the Republican party is to start from scratch.

Mar. 20 2013 10:34 AM
Tony from Canarsie

The GOP's future attempts at "minority outreach" should at the least be entertaining, especially since so many of their voters seem to believe that rice isn't white enough.

Mar. 20 2013 10:31 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

@Jim - Its tastes like chicken!

We already feed on the children so let's just do it already!

Mar. 20 2013 10:30 AM
Christine from Westchester

re: Women--- Why such a concern about a "war on women?" No one is trying to take away birth control. I just dont know that others need to pay for yours. Like this tax credit idea: you have kids, you can pay for them. You want to have sex and not have kids, you can pay for that too. I am tired of the redistribution of wealth. Pay for your own stuff.

Mar. 20 2013 10:29 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

Mark, gay issues is important to more than just 3% of the population. BTW, where did you get 3% from anyway? I think there are way more people who are gay and lesbian than 3% of the population. And when you add bi-sexual orientation, I think we are touching the 50% mark.

Mar. 20 2013 10:28 AM
Jf from Reality

Relublicans need to stop making it their lifes goal to let corporations destroy the earth in every way imaginable. Now that democrats are republicans, they should just move over and we can have a true debate for the first time betwern the dems and greens.

Mar. 20 2013 10:28 AM

Brian you are misimformed re Ron/Rand

Mar. 20 2013 10:27 AM
antonio from baySide

Middle class people have "anxieties" because of the benefits the more affluent have via policies FOR them vs. the constant assault ON them (middleClass) since the late 1970's..The republicans should propose a min wage of 25.00 dollars, in exchange for dismantling some social welfare policies...

Mar. 20 2013 10:26 AM
Jim

@Bob from Brokklyn

Soylent Green is our future.

Mar. 20 2013 10:26 AM
Audrey from Brooklyn

Women! They need to lay off topics of family planning like birth control, family planning and abortion. I think sexual freedom is under attack. Am I the only woman who remembers this last election?

Mar. 20 2013 10:26 AM
carolita from nyc

Uh, hello? Did he just suggest taking money away from childless people and giving it to people with children? whatttttt? Here we go, penalizing women who aren't childbearers! Typical GOP! Take money away from people with kids who have four houses, instead, why don't you. Jeeeezus. What is wrong with people?

Mar. 20 2013 10:25 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

The Repbulicans and Democrats have to acknowledge that we have an economic model that is actually a Ponzi Scheme. We can't take care of the millions we have now and we're paying people through tax credits to have more kids!? And the media and corporations encourage more children through advertising and social norms? All we are doing is diluting whatever economic gains we have through these policies and children-centric economy.

Mar. 20 2013 10:23 AM
Jim

Did I just hear that right? Take money from people with no kids and give it to people with kids is good policy? How about taking money from people with no cars to pay for the gasoline of SUV owners?

Mar. 20 2013 10:22 AM
Mark from LI

I really wish Brian would stop trying to lump gay/lesbian issues in with immigration. The GOP is talking about immigration. Brian decided to add in the LGB issues as also important. The fact is that America has maybe 3% gay/lesbian population. Why are you spending so much time dealing with an issue that affects almost no one? Same with Israeli issues.

The vast vast vast majority of people in the US are not gay, and are not Jewish. So stop making every single important issue about the vast vast vast minority. This politician spoke about immigration. That's all.

Racial issues in our country affect more people. "Minorities" are a significant percentage of our population. Gays and Jewish people are not.

Mar. 20 2013 10:21 AM

raise taxes on childless people to help people with children? we are doomed

Mar. 20 2013 10:20 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

Child tax credit!? JUST SAY NO. One of our problems is overpopulation. We shouldn't be encouraging people to have more kids! We are past the point where more children is desirable.

Mar. 20 2013 10:19 AM
Tony from Canarsie

The sentence "The RNC must expand it's low-dollar fundraising program" in the report (page 59) started my day off with a loud guffaw.

Mar. 20 2013 10:17 AM
RUCB_Alum from Central New Jersey

It's not the packaging, it's the CONTENTS!

The recent HISTORY of the GOP is to say whatever they need to in order to continue stealing from the public trough. Since Dubya's inauguration, GDP has increase by 50%. Has your salary increased by that much since then? No? Then you are being robbed of the value your labor adds to the economy.

Take the GOP's inability to BOLDLY state that the INVASION of IRAQ was WRONG. We can leave it to individuals to make their own determination if it was a lie or a mistake...but can we agree that it was WRONG and UNNECESSARY?

Romney can't. Can any member of the GOP?

Mar. 20 2013 10:13 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

As a formerly registered Republican, the way forward is the destruction of both parties. We need a viable third option that treats people as fellow travelers, not enemies or threats to the state.

Mar. 20 2013 10:13 AM
Jim

@fuva

I think that (an exorcism) is something that you are going to see. A viable third party in this country is next to impossible, so the Republicans will purge themselves of radical social conservatives in the coming cycles. Hopefully, the Democrats will do the same to their radical fiscal liberals.

Mar. 20 2013 10:13 AM

The GOP has serious growing pains ahead. As long as the same people are in charge, it will be the status quo.

Mar. 20 2013 10:11 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

This is as much a generational civil war as it is a war inside the GOP.

Mar. 20 2013 10:09 AM
fuva from harlemworld

Let's keep it real: The GOP is the party of unrepentant segregationists, whom the Southern Strategy race-baited when they opposed civil rights...
They have never accounted for this -- in word or deed.
The GOP requires not superficial policy change, but an exorcism.
(And I'm no Democrat.)

Mar. 20 2013 10:06 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

It's interesting that the GOP has finally issued a report on the state of their own party in 2013 when in fact the GOP civil war has been happening around the Thanksgiving tables and in the grassroots for at least 5 years. I highly doubt they will get it right before 2016 to win the WH. I see this division to be permanent with the social conservatives going one way and everyone else going another. Maybe a 3rd party? Maybe another realignment with conservative Dems and independents joining a new, moral GOP? It will be interesting to watch. Any way it goes, it's fun to see the GOP destroy itself. And I can't wait until the Dems do the same after the 2016 election when they finally realize the country is broke and they are forced to raid retirement funds and savings accounts to keep us afloat. Good times, America!

Mar. 20 2013 09:42 AM

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