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Wednesday, March 20, 2013

State budget negotiations have produced a tentative deal to raise the minimum wage to $9/hr by 2015 and to increase taxes on those New Yorkers making over $1 million per year. This year Governor Cuomo, Speaker Silver and Senate Republican Leader Skelos are joined by Democratic Senator Jeff Klein, who shares leadership with Skelos. Ken Lovett, Albany bureau chief for The Daily News, discusses the latest on the budget, expected this week.

Other items reportedly being negotiated include a "correction" to the new gun laws restricting high capacity magazines and clips and allowing the New York City Council to "close a loophole" in the state's marijuana possession law.   

Guests:

Ken Lovett

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Comments [14]

Jim

@Bob

Suggesting that money is better spent improving an individual's earning potential than fixing prices is a joke? What are you going to say to the millions of people trying to support families who have to work for min wage at 2 or 3 jobs every week -- after they lose their one or more of these jobs due to enforced wages?

Mar. 20 2013 12:43 PM
Bob from Brooklyn

@ Jim and Christine - OK. Instead of increasing the minimum wage, we can increase taxes on businesses and provide an excellent education for everyone so they don't get stuck in s h i t min wage jobs. Is that ok with you? Or are you going to belly ache that schools cost too much?

And until that happens, what are you going to say to the millions of people trying to support families who have to work for min wage at 2 or 3 jobs every week? Your position is a joke.

Mar. 20 2013 12:20 PM
Jim

@Christine

Agreed. The focus should be on helping people into better, living wage, jobs rather than insisting that job stuffing envelopes should pay well enough to support a family.

Mar. 20 2013 11:28 AM
Christine from Westchester

Bob: perhaps minimum wage is too low. I don't disagree. But it's not really meant to be a living wage. You should read the research on this. Who gets paid min wage? Mostly fast food jobs, clerks in stores. What should these jobs pay? There's no skill involved, there's not even good customer service. We can't just keep upping wages. Perhaps they need a bump up but again, the costs will be born by the consumer (those very guys who would be paid more perhaps? Higher costs as a result at WalMart?) and will as it always does, decrease jobs. I'm not saying that maybe we should have fewer better paid staff, but.. that's part of the result.

Mar. 20 2013 11:16 AM
Christine from Westchester

Bob: perhaps minimum wage is too low. I don't disagree. But it's not really meant to be a living wage. You should read the research on this. Who gets paid min wage? Mostly fast food jobs, clerks in stores. What should these jobs pay? There's no skill involved, there's not even good customer service. We can't just keep upping wages. Perhaps they need a bump up but again, the costs will be born by the consumer (those very guys who would be paid more perhaps? Higher costs as a result at WalMart?) and will as it always does, decrease jobs. I'm not saying that maybe we should have fewer better paid staff, but.. that's part of the result.

Mar. 20 2013 11:15 AM
Amy from Manhattan

If it's unconstitutional to arrest someone for "displaying" drugs only because police told them to empty their pockets, then it's still unconstitutional even if they make it a misdemeanor. What they need to do is stop doing searches w/no probable cause.

Mar. 20 2013 10:52 AM
Jim

@Bob

You can't have it both ways. Gun regulation 'to the max' ultimately means that all guns are illegal and, thus, will only be in the hands of criminals and the cops who got to your place 15 minutes too late.

Mar. 20 2013 10:50 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

Christine, the min wage is too low. Period. It's pratically a slave wage when compared to the cost of living. It has to increase otherwise we are continuing our slavery history.

The businesses will always pass cost onto their customers. It's already happening, and we big business has record cash on their books. Small businesses have to adjust too. Its part of the cost of business.

Mar. 20 2013 10:47 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

I am all for gun regulation to the max. But I do wish we could have shotguns at home here in NYC. One is good enough for home protection bc the cops can't be everywhere and on time.

Mar. 20 2013 10:42 AM
Christine from Westchester

Bob: increasing the min wage does have some other impacts. One- costs go up in the places that have to pay higher wages. Some of those will then pass on costs to customers. Others will decrease their headcount. It's well known that the raising of mininimum wage does have some down sides including job losses.

Mar. 20 2013 10:40 AM
Christine from Westchester

To Bob: Good plan, since the assemblymen are using it any way (see recent article on Katz being caught speeding, under the influence and carry marijuana). Tax it.

Mar. 20 2013 10:38 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

These business people who are against min wage are a-holes. Agreed?

Can't they see that workers are just like their machines? The worker needs money to live and thrive and healthcare to keep their people machines properly working. Inflation is killing them. If it means we need to start throwing business people in jail for refusing to give a proper amount of money to their workers, so be it! We can exchange the drug users for the greedy business people.

And a two tier min wage? Not going to happen. If it does, watch for the 18 year olds to throw bricks through windows and burn down the malls.

Mar. 20 2013 10:36 AM
Christine from Westchester.

So this is exactly what I mean: these are tax dollars being dished out to make Cuomo look good. Why are we handing out money to people like this? They have kids. Great. Make the schools better, build playgrounds if you like. Redistribution of wealth seems very wrong to me.

Mar. 20 2013 10:36 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

Legalize, tax and regulate marijuana! I'm tired of paying money to the cartels for my weed.

Mar. 20 2013 10:32 AM

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