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U.S. in the Peace Process

Monday, March 18, 2013

With President Obama headed to Israel later this week, Rashid Khalidi, Modern Arab studies professor at Columbia University and author of Brokers of Deceit: How the U.S. Has Undermined Peace in the Middle East, talks about the breakdown in the peace process and his view that the U.S. has historically favored Israel in negotiations.

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Comments [44]

Bob from Brooklyn, NY

I am tired of NPR and its pro Palestinian bent. This guy, a supposed expert, will never mention that Arafat and the Palestinians turned down actual deals they ASKED for and sabotaged and backed out of numerous other beneficial deals. Now we're supposed to feel sorry for these hating would-be destroyers of Israel. Sorry left-wing arab college Professor, maybe Columbia thinks they're being progressive by giving you a paycheck, but you're just another arab with blinders on and a selective memory and discernment of actual FACTS.

Mar. 22 2013 08:09 AM
Adrienne from UWS

Brian, I am a devoted Jew and support Israel, but I want to ask a question that is a little off the beaten path here. There is so much of the exact same conversation on this subject, Is this THE MOST important political issues in the world...really? Why don't you or most American mainstream media report about the genocide in Congo and the area around it, I never hear about it and yet it seems like one of the worst catastrophies since WWII. Somehow I feel the constant blather about Israel is a way that it's enemies exploit the situation. would anyone care about the Palestinians if they were fighting against Jordanians? Are the Palestinians just pawns for the Arab world? how does it benefit them? we need to hear about Congo which has become a charnel house. AW

Mar. 19 2013 04:32 PM
jgarbuz from Queens

To Laila

Israel always was and always will be Jewish land no matter who else occupies it, and no matter what they call themselves. I reject the "Palestinian narrative" completely.

Mar. 19 2013 10:00 AM
Laila from New York

Martin Chuzzlewit, true to form, once again airs his racial slurs and insinuations about Rashid Khalidi. I guess for him Palestinians, or in this case, Palestinian-Americans,will always remain "untouchables" no matter how excellent, knowledgeable, nor how renowned.

Sugarbuzz, on the other hand, demonstrates that he is a person without a moral compass, who thinks it's ok to steal other peoples land.

Mar. 18 2013 06:04 PM
Laila from New York

Rose, Before you make such a comment, please do put on your listening ears!

Mar. 18 2013 05:43 PM
Noach (Non-Zionist, Independent Orthodox Jew) from Brooklyn

The comments posted by "Bob from Brooklyn, NY", 8:33 a.m., and "Rose from Los Angeles, CA", 1:03 p.m., appear identical.

Mar. 18 2013 01:20 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Columbia University President Lee Bollinger has some questions before introducing Islamic Republic of Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as a speaker at the university, September 24 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tACSopIZVdk

Mar. 18 2013 01:17 PM
Rose from Los Angeles, CA

I am tired of NPR and its pro Palestinian bent. This guy, a supposed expert, will never mention that Arafat and the Palestinians turned down actual deals they ASKED for and sabotaged and backed out of numerous other beneficial deals. Now we're supposed to feel sorry for these hating would-be destroyers of Israel. Sorry left-wing arab college Professor, maybe Columbia thinks they're being progressive by giving you a paycheck, but you're just another arab with blinders on and a selective memory and discernment of actual FACTS.

Mar. 18 2013 01:03 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Taher from Croton on Hudson,

This bit of history is for you.

1941 The Grand Mufti meets Hitler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSUEx1cKUlg

Mar. 18 2013 12:38 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Meanwhile 70,000+ Arabs have been killed in Syria, Arabs killing Arabs, and the progressively blind and progressively Islamist have nothing to say.

They can't blame Israel.

Remember Bobby Kennedy!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy

Mar. 18 2013 12:35 PM
Noach (Non-Zionist, Independent Orthodox Jew) from Brooklyn

____________Begin Quoted Text_________

Clinton recognized that the terms he had offered at the failed 2000 Camp David meetings were not acceptable to any Palestinians, and in December, proposed his "parameters," inexplicit but more forthcoming. He then announced that both sides had accepted the parameters, though both had reservations. Israeli and Palestinian negotiators met in Taba Egypt to iron out the differences, and made considerable progress. A full resolution could have been reached in a few more days, they announced in their final joint press conference. But Israel called off the negotiations prematurely, and they have not been formally resumed.

The single exception suggests that if an American president were willing to tolerate a meaningful diplomatic settlement, it might very well be reached.

The facts are well documented in Hebrew and English sources (for review, see Chomsky, Failed States). But like much of the relevant history, they are regularly reshaped to suit doctrinal needs; for example by Jeffrey Goldberg, who writes that "By December of 2000, Israel had accepted President Bill Clinton's `parameters,' offering the Palestinians all of the Gaza Strip, 94 percent to 96 percent of the West Bank and sovereignty over Arab areas of East Jerusalem. Arafat again rejected the deal" (NYT, May 24). That is a convenient tale, false or seriously misleading in all particulars, and another useful contribution to US-Israeli rejectionism.

__________End quoted text__________

The above is an excerpt from, "Turning Point?", by Noam Chomsky, June 2009
http://www.chomsky.info/articles/20090607.htm

Mar. 18 2013 12:35 PM
NessieG

"The professor is so caught up in mining the English language for ever uglier ways of describing Israeli policy that he blithely skips over one inconvenient truth after another, presumably hoping the reader won't pay attention": http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-harris/why-israelipalestinian-pe_b_2895228.html?msource=DAHOpEd0317

Mar. 18 2013 12:24 PM
Taher from Croton on Hudson

jgarbuz from Queens, yes you do have a weird view of history the hides who you really are: a bigot like many in America.
I don’t remember reading that Jews had a terrible time in Moorish Spain. But after the “Reconquista” didn’t some Sephardim end up in New Amsterdam escaping the Christian torture racks in Spain?

Mar. 18 2013 11:50 AM
savti7 from Boynton Beach, FL

Who has the track record of targeted murder of women and children? Nazis and radical Muslims live by that creed! Genocide! The Palestinian leadership wants it ALL even though there HAS been a Jewish presence in that area of the world for thousands of years! Ghettos! What nonsense! Has Mr. Khalid been to Israel lately? Has he strolled the malls, visited the parks, shopped in Rami Levi supermarket in Efrat, strolled the Arab Shuk and the Western Wall Plaza?. Has he visited the Soda Stream company in Ma'aleh Adumim where more than 25% of the employees are Palestinian? Arabs are free to walk anywhere in Israel not to mention work there and earn money to build a better life for their families. What has their leadership with the cooperation of the UN done for the Palestinian people but keep them impoverished in refugee camps and encouraging suicide. Is the leadership sending an examples by blowing themselves up for the cause? The Palestinian leadership wants it all! Pre '67 borders would put them in Jordan, who clearly is not interested in integrating them. What is the Palestinian position? Just drive to the border between the Gush Etzion area and read the huge signs: NO Jews allowed beyond this point! Talk about ghettos! Get your facts straight! There is no such sign going the other way. We will NEVER AGAIN walk to our deaths like lambs to the slaughter and therein lies the issue.

Mar. 18 2013 11:48 AM
resident alien from Williamsburg

I couldn't agree more with your guest!!!
Rashid Khalidi, Modern Arab studies professor at Columbia University shows that there are clear eyed, reasonable people out there, at least in academia.
There is a little hope, if there would be more people of his caliber in charge on both the Palestinian and the Israeli side.

We can do little about this, but what we can do is, have US policy makers listen to people like him and change the US policy in the middle east to become a more fair, honest and active broker instead of being hostage of unreasonable & unforgiving extremists and their devastating policies on peace.

Mar. 18 2013 11:47 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

To MGDuke

The US did not run to save the Jews before WWII, and so Israel hardly expects the US to run to save Israel either. Israel will do whatever it has to do to eliminate the Iranian nuclear threat with or without the US.

Mar. 18 2013 11:43 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

To Taher

I was in the civil rights struggle in the '60s, but the Arabs don't respect Jewish rights, so it's a totally different story. After all, weren't Jews and Christians "dhimma" under Muslim rule? Basically second class citizens for centuries? Didn't the Muslim Arabs put their mosques on the Temple Mount and early on not only stole from the Jews, but tried to delegitize the Bible, by calling it corrupted by the Jews?

Mar. 18 2013 11:41 AM
MG Duke

As an ordinary American--with no ties of any kind to either the Palestinians or the Israelis--my concerns about the Middle East in general, and with President Obama’s upcoming trip in particular, are less with what’s good for any of the peoples there and more with what’s good for the United States.

From my America-first perspective, I am glad to hear Mr Khalidi’s analysis of the U.S. role in the Israeli/Palestinian problem. Let’s hope that Mr Khalidi’s cogent analysis will help start unshackling America from our unethical and self-destructive support of Israel, which has caused decades of enormous harm to the United States, and now threatens to involve us in an insane war with Iran.

Mar. 18 2013 11:38 AM
Taher from Croton on Hudson

jgarbuz from Queens , you would have done well in Jim Crow South as a hooded guy. Thank You.

Mar. 18 2013 11:32 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

BOYCOTT ISRAELI IMPORTS

Mar. 18 2013 11:28 AM
Noach (Non-Zionist, Independent Orthodox Jew) from Brooklyn

As a non-Zionist Orthodox Jew, I cringe every time I hear the most intransigent, and even violent "religious Zionists" referred-to as "Ultra-Orthodox". This is a complete perversion; the overwhelming consensus of Torah authorities have always opposed Zionism, from its inception, in all of its forms.

(Additionally, "Ultra-Orthodox" is altogether a highly problematic, tendentious term but that goes beyond the scope of the topic.)

Mar. 18 2013 11:28 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

To Bob

ISrael is replacing almost all US made weapons with better Israeli made weapons. In fact, the US is now buying many Israeli weapons systems because they are both cheaper AND better.

Mar. 18 2013 11:27 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

US weapons are killing Palestinians indiscriminately. I think we as Americans need to start shaming the weapon manufacturers that sell to Israel.

Mar. 18 2013 11:25 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

To Taher

You mean zoo-keeper, don't you?

Mar. 18 2013 11:24 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

The Jewish people will settle the liberated parts of their homeland all the way up to the Jordan river IFF the Arabs do not recognize Israel as the Jewish state. The Arabs are committing suicide by not recognizing Jewish rights in the land. But then, fighting the "infidel" gets them 70 virgins in paradise, so I guess they don't mind committing suicide.

Mar. 18 2013 11:23 AM
Robert from NYC

Brian I don't think you can be partial on this. you should not have these discussions on your show. You will give the initial word to the Palestinian side and the final word on the Israeli side. There is no "other side" in this country than the Israeli side and as yes the US is pro Israel but what is never verbalized is that the US is against the Palestinian side and that's the only real way to say it. This is an unfair situation and very sad that it goes on and on. The slightest disagreement with Israel starts folks to scream anti-semitism which makes people cringe because it conjures up the Holocaust and that is not what it should conjure up and that is not what disagreeing with Israel on certain issues is. It's not anti-semitism it's disagreeing on certain policies with Israel. Should Israel exist? Sure. Should the Palestinians be treated as they are, second rate to put it nicely? I don't think so.
Yeah look at the casualty figures. He's perfectly correct here.

Mar. 18 2013 11:21 AM

Yes, Israeli SHOULD have control over water, etc until they see Palestinians prove they want peace. Israel has a track record of giving up control,as in giving up the Sinai for peace with Egypt, the PAlestinians do not, as in Gaza.

Mar. 18 2013 11:20 AM
Taher from Croton on Hudson

garbuz from Queens thanks for your usual view. May be you can spend the last years of life as an armed guard of a Palestinian concentration camp in Israel.

Mar. 18 2013 11:20 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

The "settlements" comprise LESS THAN 2% of the West Bank and 0% of Gaza, so this issue is a canard the Arab side uses to avoid the real issue of recognizing Jewish national rights. And as long as they don't, Jewish presence in Judah and Samaria will only grow, as they waste time trying to delegitimize the JEwish state. In the end they will procrastinate until they really do have nothing to negotiate about.

There never was a Palestinian state in history, because there was never a Palestinian people. It's the invention created after 1948.

Mar. 18 2013 11:20 AM
Noach (Non-Zionist, Independent Orthodox Jew) from Brooklyn

President Obama should put down an ultimatum: ALL expansion in the occupied territories stops NOW, or the goodies will start dwindling.

Mar. 18 2013 11:18 AM
Zeggae from Nj

Why is Brian so upset about the word apartheid being used in relation to Israel? The Israelis say the same thing. Ehud Barak SAID if there is no two state solution then Israel will be an apartheid state.

Mar. 18 2013 11:16 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

America, land of the 'free', shouldn't support any nation that has an official state religion. PERIOD.

Mar. 18 2013 11:16 AM
The Truth from Becky

Many have tried, many have failed - I do not foresee any peace coming to that part of the world in our lifetime - two country waring over land that will be here when they perish - foolish and what do we get for our troubles the "US undermined Peace in the Middle East" nice...

Mar. 18 2013 11:15 AM
John from office

Here we go again. 20 years from now we will be talking about this same issue. I agree with Bob. Jonathon Pollard is a traitor who belongs in Jail. You can only serve one country, say NO to dual loyalty.

Mar. 18 2013 11:15 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

Israel destroyed the Soviet presence in the Middle East by defeating the Soviet-backed Egyptian, Syrian and Iraqi armies THREE TIMES in 30 years!

Mar. 18 2013 11:15 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

Tell professor Khalidi that president W.Bush was the FIRST US president to recognize the "two state" solution, so I don't think Khalidi should be so hard on him. Neither Reagan, Bush I, nor Carter ever came out for a Palestinian state. Bush II was the first.

There is no "peace process" but only a process to peacefully bury the Jewish state. The Arabs will never recognize Jewish national rights in the land whatseover, so the whole so-called "peace process" is a left-wing ruse. It's all about delegitimizing the right of the Jews to have a state at all.

But there will be no Israeli recognition of any Palestinian national rights unless Jewish national rights are recognized first, or at least simultaneously.

Mar. 18 2013 11:13 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

I deeply regret not having bought an apartment in Ariel, a "settlement" in Samaria back in 1985 when I could have gotten one for a mere $25,000. Today the town has a university with 12,000 students, including local Arabs, and I couldn't touch an apartment there for under $200,000 today.
Ariel was built on a pile of rubble. There were no Arabs and no houses whatsoever in the area.

Mar. 18 2013 11:03 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

The US should stop supporting terror groups and countries such as Saudi Arabia and Israel. We are an embarrassment on the world stage. Our foreign policy are just economic protectionist policies. We sell these people weapons. Our government is full of greedy liars and arms dealers.

Mar. 18 2013 10:55 AM
Brook from Boblyn from Chicago, IL

Khalidi is an able, agile scholar who has been good about stating the limits of the PLO's reach, rather than the being the flak that the "jump the gun"ners here consider him to be.

Most segments don't generate the kind of preemptive hate/criticism that Martin, his brother Bob and his other brother Bob are slinging. But I am writing here to thank Brian for doing his homework and not being cowed by the mainstream/Fox press line on Khalidi as some deep, dark, sly terrorist coddler. Can't wait to hear this segment!

Mar. 18 2013 10:45 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

I heard that Obama is taking 20 tons of cement with him - to help build more settlements, that's what friends are for.

He might even take our loyal good citizen, Jonathan Pollard on the plane too.

Mar. 18 2013 10:05 AM
Noach (Non-Zionist, Independent Orthodox Jew) from Brooklyn

Should we expect this segment to begin at approx. 11:06 a.m.?
.....
Will the "real" Bob from Brooklyn please stand-up...
:)
Seriously, at least one of you should add something to your posting handle to distinguish yourself from the other.

Mar. 18 2013 09:42 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

The original Bob from Brooklyn here. I say pox on both their houses. The greed, corruption, and racism is apparent on both sides.

Mar. 18 2013 09:30 AM
Bob from Brooklyn, NY

I am tired of NPR and its pro Palestinian bent. This guy, a supposed expert, will never mention that Arafat and the Palestinians turned down actual deals they ASKED for and sabotaged and backed out of numerous other beneficial deals. Now we're supposed to feel sorry for these hating would-be destroyers of Israel. Sorry left-wing arab college Professor, maybe Columbia thinks they're being progressive by giving you a paycheck, but you're just another arab with blinders on and a selective memory and discernment of actual FACTS.

Mar. 18 2013 08:33 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

FYI, Brian - your GUEST, an old Friend-of-Barry, and Yasser, from Chicago days-

“Why is the Los Angeles Times sitting on a videotape of the 2003 farewell bash in Chicago at which Barack Obama lavished praise on the guest of honor, Rashid Khalidi — former mouthpiece for master terrorist Yasser Arafat?
At the time Khalidi, a PLO adviser turned University of Chicago professor, was headed east to Columbia. There he would take over the University’s Middle East-studies program (which he has since maintained as a bubbling cauldron of anti-Semitism) and assume the professorship endowed in honor of Edward Said, another notorious terror apologist.
The party was sponsored by the Arab American Action Network (AAAN), which had been founded by Khalidi and his wife, Mona, formerly a top English translator for Arafat’s press agency.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/226104/i-l-times-i-suppresses-obamas-khalidi-bash-tape/andrew-c-mccarthy

Mar. 18 2013 07:46 AM

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