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Following Up: MLK and LBJ

Friday, January 18, 2008

Dr. William Jelani Cobb, associate professor of history at Spelman College, contributing writer for Essence Magazine and the author of The Devil and Dave Chappelle: And Other Essays (Avalon, 2007), talks about generational change in the civil rights movement.

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Comments [15]

Seth from Astoria

This show doesn't favor one more than the other. They have had people representing All the candidates, AND it's only January. I'm for Edwards, and not becuase he's a white man, I think if He was a Black woman who had the same views, experience, and decency, I'd vote for her.

Oprah '12

Jan. 18 2008 11:35 AM
James from New York

As one who lived thru the turbulence of the sixties, I'm finding the spat between the Obama & Clinton partisans (even if not the candidates themselves) over the relative legacies of MLK & LBJ in the civil rights struggles of that time EXTEMELY dispiriting. It is almost as if the left is nostalgic for the internal divisions of the sixties amongst progressives. When the Obama partisans said they did not want to fall back into the divisions of the the Clinton 90s, I had no idea thst they meant that they preferred going back to the internal cannibalism amongst progressives of the sixties which made the Nixon-Reagan-Bush era inevitable.

Jan. 18 2008 11:35 AM
Robert from NYC

Has anyone really listened to Kucinich? I think more people should in whatever way you can because you don't hear him anywhere in the news or media. All these guys/gals have already decided FOR YOU who will be the candidates to run in November. Very sad comment on lazy Americans and how they (we?) can be lead to think in a way and without putting up a fight because that is too hard, too much work.

Jan. 18 2008 11:35 AM
jj

(whoops -- the review that starts with the clip we just heard came out February 06).

Jan. 18 2008 11:33 AM
jj

Oh, I see, this is all buzz for a book:

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2006/01/23/060123crbo_books

Welcome to, er, February.

Jan. 18 2008 11:31 AM
Nancy from New York

It really surprises me to hear Brian ask whether MLK would have supported Hillary over Obama.

Ummmm, what about some of the other candidates? Does Edwards not exist? Kucinich? Maybe if MLK was alive, we'd have a better choice??

Jan. 18 2008 11:28 AM
RC from queens

Actually,

Its only when the GOP embraced the rhetoric of George Wallace (who took a good chunk of southern states in 1968) in the very friendly package of Ronald Reagan did the South start paying off dividends. Nixon did win in a landslide in 1972, but Carter took the south in 1976.

Jan. 18 2008 11:27 AM
Robert from NYC

Yes, Hillary is king on this show. No doubt about it.

Jan. 18 2008 11:27 AM
jawbone from Lake Hiawatha, NJ

Beware the False Dichotomy!!!!

Please--Mr. Lehrer--do not fall into the trap of the false dichotomy. You did it in talking about Hillary Clinton's comments about MLK and LBJ.

You said something (and I was emptying the dryier at the time and couldn't run to the computer immediately) about her saying it was LBJ more important than MLK for getting the 1965 Civil Rights Act passed.

What I heard her say, and I am an Edwards supporter btw, is that it took many people to achieve the civil rights legislation and that without all of them, but especially without MLK's courage of leadership and eloquence of persuasion AND without LBJ's political wiliness and courage to risk his party's control of the South we would not have had that legislation that early.

C'mon--it's not EITHER/OR, which is favorite trick of many MCMers* and especially of some politicians (It's either invade Iraq or have mushroom cloud over a US city!)-- it's possible to have AND in there, and lots of AND's.

Jan. 18 2008 11:25 AM
Steve from New York

I can't believe Brian asked if that tape vindicated the statements made by Hillary Clinton.
Has anyone else picked up on a bias for Hillary on this show in the past few weeks?

Jan. 18 2008 11:21 AM
Jean Riesman from Jersey City

This is a question: I went to the CUNY website and could not figure out how to locate the Johnson/King clip. Any chance you could put the link on your website? Thanks.

Jan. 18 2008 11:19 AM
Heather Dunbar from Astoria

But sadly King was totally wrong in predicting the future of the south's voting. LBJ called it correctly when he said "The Democrats have lost the South for the next generation" after he signed the voting rights act.

Jan. 18 2008 11:17 AM
hjs from 11211

and the democrats lost the south...

but totally worth it

Jan. 18 2008 11:15 AM
jj

huh--so lbj suggested lying? (that hitler remark)

Jan. 18 2008 11:12 AM
superf88

MLK chose cities in which to lead Peace Marches according to which were known to be most racist and dangerous. He chose the worst -- solely in order to get the press' and world's attention. An unforgettable distinction from any leader.

Jan. 18 2008 11:04 AM

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