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With NY's New Gun Law, Sellers Wonder What's Next

Thursday, February 07, 2013

New York state is home to over 1,800 small gun retailers, many of which are trying to adjust to the state's new gun laws.

Brian Sherwood’s gun collection at his home in Tupper Lake looks almost like a museum display.

There’s a handmade flintlock rifle, a mannequin dressed up in old World War II fatigues, and Adirondack pack baskets hanging from the walls. And then, there’s a rack of guns.

Sherwood explains them one by one — a 1936 rifle used by the Russians in World War II, an original Russian sniper rifle — the list goes on.

He’s a total history buff. He’s also a big guy, with gauged ears and  facial piercings and a card-carrying Democrat. And like many North Country gun retailers, he’s trying to figure out how the state’s new gun control laws will affect his business.

"I stock mainly military guns from WWII and earlier," Sherwood explains. "I also sell the so-called assault rifles — I don’t stock them — I order them per order which of course came to a crashing halt on January 15. And I also stock military accessories which includes high capacity magazines and some accessories for AR -15s and AK-47s."

His primary income doesn’t come from gun sales. He works at the Adirondack Correctional Facility. But he loves old guns, and decided to turn his hobby into a business.

Still, his inventory is small – around  $5,000-$6,000. He says those military accessories, now illegal, probably represent about 15 percent of it.

"Five hundred dollars to eight hundred, I’ll either have to sell on the internet if I can, give it away out of state or just take a hammer to it." 

A Changing Industry

Sherwood says he’s having a hard time stocking what his customers want.

"But right now those distributors are empty. They’ve got nothing to sell as far as ammunition goes."

"For starters, probably a lot of people don’t want to do business in New York state – distributors," says Jeff Rabideau. He and his wife, Suzie Thaller, are avid outdoors folk. They ran a gun shop northern Clinton County near the Canadian border for 18 years and also organized a gun show.

Rabideau says that over the years, the business got harder and harder.

"At one time I had close to $50,000 worth of stuff. But as the years went down and sales started declining, the big box stores moved in 20 miles down the road, it started going down, then I started looking to more of the custom, more expensive orders and hard to find stuff. And I did that for while,"  he says.

Last spring, the couple closed their gun store. He says he always wanted to cook for a living. So they moved to the western Adirondacks to Cranberry Lake and opened a new business running a motel and diner.

He figured he’d just take a break from selling guns.

"I had to transfer my license to my new residency and it took a while. Called the ATF, tell ‘em you  you moved, fill out another form, they have to come and inspect your books, tell you how to do it proper again, check out where you’re settin’ up  your business so it gets secured for your guns," he explains.

The licensing process, he says, took almost 6 months. But now he’s not sure if he wants to start selling guns again.

"I had plans to. Don’t know now, cause if you gotta do background checks on ammunition, it’s too much time for selling a box of 22 shells," Rabideau says thoughtfully. "Probably some day. We’ll wait and see how the rules slide down."

"Stick with fishing equipment," says his wife, Suzie. "It’s safer at this point." 

Customers React to Legislation

Both dealers say that they’re not the only ones reeling from the new laws. Their customers are too.

You get some guys who are saying well, I’ll just give in, I’ll give ‘em what they want, I’ll throw away what I can’t have, and I’ll take my loss," Sherwood explains. "­­­And then some guys are just saying, I’m not gonna abide by the law, let ‘em put me in jail."

Neither of the two men have sold a ton of the semi-automatic weapons highlighted in the new state laws. But Rabideau says that their customers want choices.  

"The people want guns. All of the people I used to sell to bought high capacity mags. They don’t have a tendency to use ‘em. They probably never had ‘em out of the box. But they want to have the opportunity to buy."

As for Jeff Rabideau and Brian Sherwood, they’d like the opportunity to sell.

This story is part of a series being produced by Innovation Trail.

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Comments [4]

Chris from NY

More than 30,000 lose their lives in gun violence in 2011 alone; I don't think so. 8,583 deaths caused by firearms, 323 with a rifle, per FBI Uniform Crime Report 2011 Table 20. If your going to be against something know what you're talking about; or maybe you just think all Law Enforcement Agencies and the FBI don't know what they're talking about.

8,583 Firearm Deaths in 2011

Feb. 07 2013 07:38 PM
Seamus Alehaus from Upstate NY

You might have a point there Lorilei. While we're taking a second look at the Second Amendment maybe we should take a new one the First Amendment and all the other amendments to the Constitution. No doubt some of them have outlived their original use. We'd probably be better off without them. One we should revisit is the right to own cars. When tens of thousands of people lose their lives each year to car accidents maybe it's time to examine the issue of "responsible car ownership". Wait. There's no constitutional right to car ownership like there is to guns. It's a privilege not a right. That should make taking away driver's keys easy. Let's get started. We've got to do something.

Feb. 07 2013 01:01 PM
Jane from Binghamton

The majority of registered gun owners are "responsible gun owners" It is the criminals that are killing. Criminals do not obey LAWS, hence they are criminals. We need to look to upbringing, not to the responsible gun owners. Car accidents and doctors cause more deaths than guns, should we ban cars and doctors???

Feb. 07 2013 11:15 AM
Lorilei Barsh

When tens of thousands of people lose their lives each year to gun violence in the United States, more than 30,000 in 2011 alone, it may be time for us to take a new look at the second amendment and at the issue of “responsible gun ownership.” http://eyeswideopen.org/?p=955

Feb. 07 2013 10:44 AM

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