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NRA's Solution for Gun Violence Gets Support from Local Enthusiasts

Friday, December 21, 2012

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Some local gun enthusiasts are vigorously supporting the NRA's proposal to place armed guards in schools.  

The 75-year-old Colonial Rifle and Pistol Club in Staten Island was quiet on Friday afternoon.  But one member, who would only give his first name as Ken, said he supports what he's heard so far from the National Rifle Association's proposal.  He says there should be armed guards in schools.

"People blame the gun and it's not the gun it's the people behind the gun," he said.

Ken thinks many tragedies, like the school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, could have been avoided with legal guns in the right places.

That was the sentiment at the VFW post in Cartaret, New Jersey.  A group of vets discussed the NRA announcement Friday afternoon while watch TV and sharing a drink.

"Gun owners should keep a vault in their homes.  I have 19 guns and they're all locked up," said NRA member James Schaeffer of Avendale, New Jersey.  

Schaeffer agrees that legal guns in schools, with guards, could prevent shootings. Like other NRA members, he blames video games for the increased violence in schools, and would like to see limits on video games, not on guns.  

"Gun laws don't work, kids steal illegal guns," the 57-year-old Schaeffer said. He's been hunting and using guns all his life.

"I never had an incident with a gun," he added.

Correction: An earlier version of this story stated that the Colonial Rifle and Pistol Club is 5 years old. It is a 75-year-old club.

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Reality

Anyone who says that WNYC is too liberal should think about how much credence a similarly unrealistic and poorly thought out idea would be given by this station's conservative counterpart had it come from the left. There are so many things wrong with this idea it doesn't even make sense to begin discussing them. Not every idea is a good one and certainly not every idea warrants discussion. This is almost as stupid as allowing your three year old son to debate the merits of eating cake for breakfast, lunch, and dinner and going to bed at 2 AM every night.

Dec. 22 2012 03:10 PM
Sonali from Brooklyn, NY

These people all know that there was an armed guard on duty at Columbine High School, right?

Dec. 22 2012 01:09 PM
Lee Robert from New Rochelle

I have to agree with a previous comment. We will need two armed guards, the first to be shot and the second to shoot back. When our society is totally flooded with guns as the NRA would like (as if it isn't already) what will this shooter look like and who will know who he is. Watching TV news and reading newspapers leads me to believe that the good guy often gets killed and a few others to boot before the homicidal maniac can be stopped.

Dec. 22 2012 11:32 AM
Peg

And who will pay for these armed "guards"????? Will school districts need to dismiss teachers to cover the costs of these new hires?

What is the right wing solution for paying for their salaries and benefits without raising taxes?

Dec. 22 2012 11:17 AM
Concerned parent in NJ with 2 little kids from North Jersey

If the NRA proposal is to place an armed guard at every school and it costs $80,000 to post an armed agent at school (or $8 Billion based on what I heard on WNYC) then I propose that similar to the tax on cigarettes and alcohol, we should have a sufficient tax/surcharge on sales of guns, bullets and accessories that will pay for this armed guard at each and every school in the country. Part of this tax should also be on gun manufacturers to pay for ongoing training of these armed guards at schools. The burden should not be on the regular tax payer.

Dec. 22 2012 11:12 AM
RUCB_Alum from Central New Jersey

An armed guard at every school? How do the Righties reconcile that with the fear of a police state? How does the NRA recommend the money for the salaries and benefits for these guards be raised? More taxes? Will the NRA be covering those added costs? Or do they propose putting the service 'out to bid' guaranteeing that the lowest cost provider is now on patrol in our schools? Volunteers? Puh-lease. No thanks. We don't need the statistically inevitable increase in deaths by accidental or unintended discharge.

This suggestion is complete and utter hogwash and, in my opinion, stems from NRA guilt over their complicity in the Newtown massacre. Mr. LaPierre's 'good guy with a gun' hypothesis is a fantasy that springs from the amount of firearms in our society (legal and illegal) that his organization has promoted. Does it surprise anyone that the NRA response for too many guns in society is yet more guns? "From my cold dead hands!" used to be Charlton Heston's NRA rally cry. "Away from the reach of your wackjob offspring!" should be the modern response.

It was Nancy Lanza's own fear-induced belief in a coming breakdown in society that fed her need to 'bulk up' so that she could defend her home and family that put such devastating weapons into her son's hands. The Take-Away here is for EVERYONE who has a lethal weapon in the home to take the steps necessary to BE CERTAIN that their weapons can only be used when and by whom they are supposed to be used. "I keep my gun in the top of the closet where the kids would never look" is not enough. Trigger locks are not enough. A gun safe may not be enough if a person who has shown themselves to be mentally unsuitable knows the combination. You may need to store all of your weapons at the gun club or remove the firing pins and hide them. You don't need to wait for Biden's report or action from Congress, you should do these things today. The life you save may be your own or the six year old who lives next door.

Until SCOTUS changes the interpretation or the Second Amendment is itself amended or repealed, you have a personal right to keep and bear arms but you also have the responsibility to make sure that your weapon is kept safely and that the rest of us are safe from its misuse.

Dec. 22 2012 09:47 AM

Schaeffer would like to see limits on video games, not guns. . .because "gun laws don't work, kids steal guns" and NRA V.P. Wayne LaPierre laminates, "the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." He goes on to recommended the creation of "an active national database of the mentally ill" as another solution to gun violence. LaPierre has criticized the media for rewarding killers with "wall-to-wall attention and a sense of identity that they crave" when they carry out mass killings. More guns in the hands of Americans will control gun violence. So then, the problem is with the media, video games, music videos and the mentally ill. Gee, It couldn't be gun availability, could it? Comprehensive education wouldn't do any good, would it? Naw, let's arm the "good guys", monitor the mentally ill, ban "violent" videos, video games, music and cut off the little bastards fingers for even thinking of stealing a gun- Yep, that'll do it!

Dec. 22 2012 07:06 AM

OK, so the first causality will be the armed guard- an almost guaranteed statistic, not much of a deterrent- think about it. . .one side has laws, rules of engagement to follow and the crazed gunman adheres to ???

Dec. 22 2012 06:24 AM

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