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Conversation on Comprehensive Immigration Reform Changes After Election

Saturday, November 24, 2012

Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-NY) speaks during day two of the Democratic National Convention at Time Warner Cable Arena on September 5, 2012 in Charlotte, North Carolina. (Getty)

In his first post-election news conference, President Obama sounded optimistic talking about comprehensive immigration reform — an issue he hadn't addressed during his first term.

"My expectation is that we get a bill introduced and we begin the process in Congress very soon after my inauguration," Obama said.

The reform could include a pathway to legal status for illegal immigrants, including the 600,000 estimated living in New York. The possibility of passing this type of a bill is being discussed for the first time in years by both Republicans and Democrats.

In this election, ten percent of all voters were Latinos. Over 70 percent of them voted for Obama, helping him win Colorado, Nevada and Florida. According to ImpreMedia-Latino Decisions poll, 58 percent of Latino voters said they were more enthusiastic about the president because of his decision on deferred action, a program that allows young illegal immigrants to apply for temporary work permits.  

Paul Taylor, the director of the Pew Hispanic Center, expects the influence of the Latino voting bloc will continue to grow.

"Latinos actually, to borrow a boxing metaphor, punch below their weight electorally," Taylor said.

He estimates the Latino electorate will double by 2030. That's driven by several factors, but the most important one is Latino youth.

"As today’s kids, 0 to 17-year-olds, 90 plus percent of whom are citizens,” Taylor explained. “As they age into the electorate, they will contribute to a growing voice that the Latino community is likely to have in our politics."

The fact that Latinos cast significantly fewer votes for Romney than they had for George Bush and John McCain has seemingly led to a significant change in the GOP’s position on immigration. From Senator McCain to the Tea Party favorite, Senator Rand Paul, Republicans have been coming out in support of comprehensive immigration reform.

"It's one thing to shoot yourself in the foot, just don't reload the gun," Republican Senator Lindsey Graham told CBS News. "So, I intend not to reload this gun when it comes to Hispanics. I intend to tear this wall down and pass an immigration reform bill that's an American solution to American problem."

New York Senator Chuck Schumer said he and Graham have resumed talks on immigration reform that broke off two years ago. They’re working towards a proposal that would include "an earned path to citizenship that allows those who came here illegally in the past to become citizens provided they have a job, they stay clear of the law, they learn English and they go to the back of the line."

Schumer says he would give illegal immigrants work permits immediately, but they would need to wait for their turn to get green cards.

"If somebody in Mexico City applied to the embassy before they crossed the border, they will not … get on the path to citizenship before that person did," Schumer said.

Lessons for reform can be drawn from the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act, or IRCA. It enabled 2.7 million people to get legal status criminalized the hiring of illegal immigrants for the first time.

But the legislation failed to stem illegal immigration.

"Before the ink on IRCA was dry, workers were coming in across the border to take jobs that employers needed in the country," said Muzaffar Chishti, the director of the Migration Policy Institute’s office at NYU School of Law. "And since there were no increased legal channels for them to come, workers used unauthorized channels to come and that essentially is the essence of our current 11 to 12 million unauthorized in the country."

Chishti says the employer sanction mechanism of the 1986 law was laden with pitfalls. Prospective employees had to provide documents like green cards before getting hired, but employers could accept any document that appeared genuine.

"What we saw was a huge growth of the fraudulent document industry in our country, which is why so many unauthorized people today are employed in the formal sector of the economy using either someone else’s documents or fraudulent documents," Chishti said.

According to Schumer, the reform would address this issue. Changes would be made to the legal system to bring in immigrants who have the skills the country needs. Employers could more easily check who’s authorized to work in the country and would face harsher penalties if they hired illegal immigrants.

But experts say negotiating these components will be a difficult process. And any bill that might have bipartisan support in the Senate has to pass the House, where many members oppose comprehensive immigration reform.

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JH from USA

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Feb. 04 2013 02:37 PM

But we have to acknowledge they’ve broken the rules. They’ve cut in front of the line. And what is also true is that the presence of so many illegal immigrants makes a mockery of all those who are trying to immigrate legally.

I want prosperity in this country to be widely shared. I want everybody to be able to reach that American dream. And that’s why immigration reform is an economic imperative. It’s an economic imperative.

reform will also help to make America more competitive in the global economy. Today, we provide students from around the world with visas to get engineering and computer science degrees at our top universities.

“The United States will find it far more difficult to maintain its competitive edge if it excludes those who are able and willing to help us compete.”

So immigration is not just the right thing to do. It’s smart for our economy. It’s smart for our economy. And it’s for this reason that businesses all across America are demanding that Washington finally meet its responsibilities to solve the immigration problem.

those who are here illegally,have a responsibility as well. So they broke the law, and that means they’ve got to pay their taxes, they’ve got to pay a fine, they’ve got to learn English. And they’ve got to undergo background checks and a lengthy process before they get in line for legalization.

And fourth, stopping illegal immigration also depends on reforming our outdated system of legal immigration. We should make it easier for the best and the brightest to not only stay here, but also to start businesses and create jobs here. In recent years, a full 25 percent of high-tech startups in the U.S. were founded by immigrants. That led to 200,000 jobs here in America. I’m glad those jobs are here. I want to see more of them created in this country. We need to provide them the chance.

We need to provide our farms a legal way to hire workers that they rely on, and a path for those workers to earn legal status. And our laws should respect families following the rules reuniting them more quickly instead of splitting them apart.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/05/10/remarks-president-comprehensive-immigration-reform-el-paso-texas

These are all true stamements made by our president, Barack Obama. He Thinks that having MORE immigrants will bring in more money. What he doesn't tell you is the fact that cheap labor will definately bring more money to this country because the poor are unable to go apply for jobs because the border is not as strong as he says throughout his speech. He goes on saying that republicans are using immigration as an excuse to question the safety of the United States and our ecomonic downfall, all of which are true. Which is why his immigration reform act plans and his way to increase jobs and the economy are failing. His plan is butting heads with the other 2 and are making things more difficult here at the homefront.

Jan. 08 2013 02:12 PM
michael morgan from chapel hill, north carolina

A solution to ilegals crossing our boarder. For the lemgth of our Southern boarder is to dig a trench from our boarder to México, fill the trench with water, have it patroled by our Coast Guard, haul the dirt to New Orleans, to fill in the bowl in New Orleáns. :

Dec. 20 2012 12:22 AM
Meggy P from New York

My major concern is that they should also reconsider to increase the immigrant filing for children from under 21 years old to under 25 years for non married children for the U.S Citizens.

Nov. 26 2012 01:50 PM
beachum

Archie Bunker from DC
I AM NOT SAYING DONT CLOSE THE BORDERS. I AM SAYING STOP THE IGNORANCE & HATE.

SIMPLE SOLUTION , BRING BACK 20.000 SOLDERS FROM KOREA AND GERMANY AND PUT THEM ON THE BORDER, NOT A FLY WILL CROSS AND IT WONT COST ONE EXTRA RED CENT.

Read this whos to blame for our economy, its NOT the POOR MIGRANTS.
300 BILLION$$ are not paid in taxes by USA CITIZENS, WHO CHEAT ON their TAXES that's A TRILLION$$ EVERY 3.3YEARS.
DONT BLAME THE POOR, STOP CHEATING AND OUR NATION IS OK. :):) http://www.usdebtclock.org/

What the hell happened??? Lets BLAME THE FOOD PICKING, , DISH WASHING, LAWN MOWING UNDOCUMENTED MIGRANTS. YEAHH
Before you Scream and show Ignorance and Hate at least read the Immigration Law regarding Undocumented Immigrants.

YOU CONTROL YOUR DESTINY, THESE ARE THE NEW MARKETPLACE JOBS GET EDUCATED SO YOU WONT WORRY TO LOSE YOUR JOB..
http://247wallst.com/2011/09/01/the-best-paying-jobs-of-the-future/?utm_source=247WallStDailyNewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=SEPT%201%202011%20morning%20email&utm_campaign=DailyNewsletter

Nov. 24 2012 10:53 AM
YES I agree with Archie Bunker .
Don't be so quick to Blame someone look for a solution Immigrants are not the pit fall of this country. "GREED" is hate the Americans that cheated on there taxes and and companies that manufacture goods in china because we Americans cannot work for lass. lets get our production lines going so we could compete in the world market. We have become very LAZY we all want to make money the easy way.
LET me tell you the lazy and the easy way is what got us here.
SO DON'T BLAME Immigration process.
if it wasn't for them we would be paying $10 a loaf of bread .
put your boots on and get to work no matter how much you get paid (it's a job) so our country can get back to normal.

Nov. 25 2012 11:11 AM
NTP from New York

Comprehensive immigration reform must also address the bottlenecks in the legal immigration system. There are so many legal immigrants--working legally, paying taxes, contributing to the workforce...chasing the American dream--who are waiting in limbo (some may have to wait 70 years, according to the http://www.nfap.com/pdf/DAY_OF... to become eligible for permanent residence (green card) and citizenship because of the decades-long backlog...let's please keep them in mind when considering fair and comprehensive reform.

Some suggestions for addressing the legal immigration system's bottlenecks include:

- Allow the filing of an adjustment of status (I765) and advance parole (I131) for legal immigrants whose I140 has been approved.

- Expand H1B visas and green cards under the employment-based categories.

- Expand family-based visa numbers and ensure their eligibility to contribute to the workforce and live productive lives.

Thank you!

Nov. 24 2012 07:50 PM
jonas

Comprehensive immigration reform is the answer.

Nov. 24 2012 06:21 PM
BajaRat from Yachats, Oregon

Gee, I didn't see any "amnesty a bunch of unskilled and uneducated border-jumping and visa-overstaying parasites" box to check on the ballot. Did I miss something? What I did see were a bunch of ignorant imbeciles re-electing the treasonous socialist scumbag in the White House because of all the freebies he's been doling out at our expense for the last 4 years. If the GOP nitwits get behind an amnesty they are finished because parasitic invaders will never vote for them and neither will patriotic conservatives. I say build a wall and deport every last one of those miscreants.

Nov. 24 2012 03:23 PM
Dave Francis from Indianapolis, IN

What more can either political party lie about, then the insistence that they have made our border secure against the drug dealers, foreign terrorists and illegal immigration? Just plain old liars when the majority of Americans have trusted their word about securing the border. You can bet that whatever the Republicans or Liberal Progressives (Democrats) spill out their deceiving mouths is just another bunch of more deception. There has never been any intention in sealing the border between the other impoverished Americas and United States, otherwise entering would be a felony, or the fact that the children smuggled into America would never get automatic citizenship, leading to the Dream Act? Then again millions of U.S. citizens are still jobless, while millions of immigrants are employed. Personally I wouldn’t trust either party, as the rhetoric is all they seem to know. Very few believe in the “Rule of Law” led by U.S. Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama. There oath of allegiance is like wax slipping between their affluent fingers. The only chance we had was the national TEA PARTY of moderate Conservatives and now with President Obama back in power, we are leaning towards a Socialist country, with Communist undertones. Under Obama Czars this country is full steam ahead for more entitlements, more free stuff, more spending.

Nov. 24 2012 03:17 PM
Dave Francis from Indianapolis, IN

One things for absolutely sure the more you hand out, the more they want? Another amnesty of any form will just draw more people into this country, wrecking the fabric of the once American Dream. Even STEM labor (Scientists, Technology, Engineers and Math) is very controversial, as the visas are abused, with hundreds of thousands of less skillful are allowed into this country. The estimate of mediocre immigrants is something over a million a year, whose entry is adroitly manipulated by attorneys and employers. If that isn’t enough competition for the U.S. job market the Democrats think we should accept the itinerant populace from other countries who cannot speak English and rely on public welfare to exist. If agriculture needs more workers there must be an acceptable requirement of a well-oiled, regulated orderly “Guest Worker” program with an emphasis on returning home after their contract runs out. If this sovereign nation must accept a new revised immigration reform, the frontier states, its citizens and the rest of the 50 states must be guaranteed a secure border, from Brownville, Texas to San Diego, California with the double layer fence as enacted but played down, unfunded in 2006. Employers who dishonestly work the immigrant system, either legal or illegal must be prosecuted. That all tourists and other visa over-stays must be tracked, then detained and held accountable with prison time.

We now have a far leftist group called Move On.org, which is pressing to take the “I” out of illegal aliens. They can strain their vocal chords until they struggle for their air, but as far as I am concerned, foreigners who came here and disrespected our law and under my watch they are, and will remain ILLEGAL ALIENS. Not undocumented immigrants, but Illegal aliens who cheated the thousands of people who came here in the correct manner.

Nov. 24 2012 03:15 PM
Archie Bunker from DC

I AM NOT SAYING DONT CLOSE THE BORDERS. I AM SAYING STOP THE IGNORANCE & HATE.

SIMPLE SOLUTION , BRING BACK 20.000 SOLDERS FROM KOREA AND GERMANY AND PUT THEM ON THE BORDER, NOT A FLY WILL CROSS AND IT WONT COST ONE EXTRA RED CENT.

Read this whos to blame for our economy, its NOT the POOR MIGRANTS.
300 BILLION$$ are not paid in taxes by USA CITIZENS, WHO CHEAT ON their TAXES that's A TRILLION$$ EVERY 3.3YEARS.
DONT BLAME THE POOR, STOP CHEATING AND OUR NATION IS OK. :):) http://www.usdebtclock.org/

What the hell happened??? Lets BLAME THE FOOD PICKING, , DISH WASHING, LAWN MOWING UNDOCUMENTED MIGRANTS. YEAHH
Before you Scream and show Ignorance and Hate at least read the Immigration Law regarding Undocumented Immigrants.

YOU CONTROL YOUR DESTINY, THESE ARE THE NEW MARKETPLACE JOBS GET EDUCATED SO YOU WONT WORRY TO LOSE YOUR JOB..
http://247wallst.com/2011/09/01/the-best-paying-jobs-of-the-future/?utm_source=247WallStDailyNewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=SEPT%201%202011%20morning%20email&utm_campaign=DailyNewsletter

Nov. 24 2012 10:53 AM

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