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Monday, November 05, 2012

In the wake of Sandy and the eve of national elections we continue extended news coverage with WNYC's Richard Hake and NJPR's David Furst.

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Comments [52]

Calls'em from McLean, VA

@ Soldier's Father from Westchester - Wish I could, but my assistance is less important than the failed federal agencies. Clearly Bloomberg and Cuomo (the man most responsible for the housing mtge collapse) have done better than the folks in LA, but the Feds and 0bama have been AWOL, as he was in Benghazi despite real time info, as he was in the Gulf oil spill for the 1st 100 days - actually blocking relief and NOT suspending the Jones Act to bring in the super skimmers from overseas. That put 400,000 people out of work and harmed the environment. Yet, he could have migrated the damage within 5-6 days. 0bama has not delivered what he promised and should be fired. If Romney fails in his promises, then he should be fired as well, but right now 0bama is President and he and his regime should be doing much, much more for the Atlantic States region. Be well and thank your son for his service.

Nov. 05 2012 11:52 AM
Lara P from Jackson Heights

I'd like to know if the Mayor could use eminent domain in this situation. What I'm thinking is that there are plenty of empty apartments in newly developed buildings (the building with the crane on 57th?). Could homeless families be temporarily housed in empty units that we know to exist and be available as part of storm relief?

Nov. 05 2012 11:44 AM
NEAL

Whilst I understand the call to add more buses etc. to get folks around here in NYC & NJ, people also have to realize that qualified personnel is needed to actually man these vehicles, so it’s not as simple as why don’t they add more buses. There is the condition of the depots where the vehicles are stored, fuel or lack thereof, the conditions of the road between where the buses are stored and where they are needed and the fact that the very operators are also people living in the affected areas, they don’t just materialize out of nowhere.

As to the whole FEMA/Red Cross - do people actually know how exactly they operate in the field? There's no army of personnel waiting in a warehouse just waiting to be activated. They have to assess the situation and then dispatch accordingly. They also have to be able to get to those areas.

Nov. 05 2012 11:43 AM
Fishmael from Upstate NYC

It's obvious from news reports overall that there are major issues with getting help to the Rockaways and other coastal communities. In order to understand what's not working, it would be a public service for WNYC to explain

1) what agencies are tasked to be the "first responders"?
2) are those agencies on the ground, or not? Is it a problem of perceptions?
3) if they are NOT there - why not? And who is to be held responsible?

This seems like some good basic reporting that it would be nice to hear answers to, for NYC'ers to understand the context of this.

Nov. 05 2012 11:38 AM
Jan Quiles-Reyes from Sunnyside, Queens

Yes, relief is indeed needed right now -

But in the up-coming weeks and months these devastated neighborhoods and the people who used to live in them will need the MOST support and attention. It is typical for outsiders to forget and cease their outreach after the first 3 weeks of such a disaster. People who have suffered great loss and trauma will be managing long term physical, emotional and psychological pains. They will have to learn how to live their newly up-turned lives, many without their loved one who died in the hurricane.

PLEASE DO NOT STOP giving your time. Donations of clothing, gently used furniture,bedding, pillows, blankets, kitchen ware will be needed. Food including baby food, diapers so very much needed. Medical and legal professionals - pro-bono consultations and other offers will make a great difference.

The images in the news media are nothing compared to standing in the affected neighborhood, hand in hand with someone who has just lost everything.

This is only the beginning.

Nov. 05 2012 11:37 AM
Daniel Husserl from Red Hook, Brooklyn

We are a small group of young NYC Entrepreneurs that had friends asking us where they should volunteer. After realizing that there were a lot of organizations doing great work, but none really aggregating volunteers to send to these organizations, we started the SandyBaggers movement.

By coordinating with community leaders and local initiatives, we mobilize a group of self-motivated, hip, effective change-makers. We're humbled to have nearly 800 facebook followers in just three days and today our work was covered on the front page of www.fastcompany.com! Please help us spread the word via our Facebook Page: www.Facebook.com/SandyBaggers.

We currently have ongoing initiatives in Red Hook (where my business Aellon is located), Staten Island and the Rockaways!

Nov. 05 2012 11:28 AM
Linda from Manhattan

Please stop criticizing FEMA, the first-responders and other authorities.
FEMA is not a 50 million-person army so it cannot give one-on-one service. Also the area of the disaster is far greater than a football stadium so it cannot be cleaned up in a couple of hours.

To stay informed, everyone should have a battery-operated radio in his or her survival kit.

As for volunteering, the Salvation Army is great at organizing volunteers and providing supplies.

Nov. 05 2012 11:24 AM
NEAL

Whilst I understand the call to add more buses etc. to get folks around here in NYC & NJ, people also have to realize that qualified personnel is needed to actually man these vehicles, so it’s not as simple as why don’t they add more buses. There is the condition of the depots where the vehicles are stored, fuel or lack thereof, the conditions of the road between where the buses are stored and where they are needed and the fact that the very operators are also people living in the affected areas, they don’t just materialize out of nowhere.

Nov. 05 2012 11:21 AM
Dorothy from Manhattan

Who is this woman who thinks you can just conjure up fleets of buses and battalions of trained bus drivers? We just had the storm of the millennium and people are upset because they have to wait in line for a couple of hours for a bus. What a shame we don't have more grownups.
I'm in Manhattan and I was without electricity for 4 days -- Yes, I know I had it easy. So what?

Nov. 05 2012 11:20 AM
Obi from Brooklyn, NY

Brian . . . there's a presidential election tomorrow. Enough with the Sandy coverage !!!

Nov. 05 2012 11:18 AM
Soldier's Father from Westchester

@ Calls'em: That's great - so if you have so many friends here on the Irish Riviera in Breezy, come on up and help. We probably know and can help some of the same people, and can continue this discussion in person while actually doing some good.

Nov. 05 2012 11:15 AM
Eman from Brooklyn

We have 30 to 40,000 New Yorkers, minimally, who have no heat and no power and who Mayor Mike says need to be housed elsewhere. I would like to open my home to some of these folks. I think the Brian Lehrer show should start making a list of people who would be willing to temporarily house fellow New Yorkers. We can bring food and water and have bake sales, but nothing would say we care more about our neighbors than opening our homes to them. And Brian, I would ask you to do the same. Open your home to an elderly person, a disabled person, or a single mother and child severely affected by Sandy. If devoted part of the Brian Lehrer show page to this, I wonder how many New Yorkers would sign up. Please put me on this list of folks willing to temporarily house folks in need. If you haven't started such a list, Brian, please do.

Nov. 05 2012 11:13 AM
RJ from prospect hts

Other resources: There is the freecycle.org network, an international but localized Yahoo group that sends out lists of people giving away things. There seems to be some organized attempts on the listservs to collect materials for disaster relief, but for those wanting to bring/get materials, this is another resource: http://groups.freecycle.org/BrooklynFreeCycle/description
http://groups.freecycle.org/freecyclenewyorkcity/description
http://groups.freecycle.org/StatenIslandNYFreecycle/posts/all
http://groups.freecycle.org/QueensCoNYFreecycle/posts/all
http://www.freecycle.org/search [for New Jersey]
http://groups.freecycle.org/nassaufreecycle/posts/all
http://groups.freecycle.org/PortJervisNY/posts/all
http://groups.freecycle.org/EastSuffolk_NY/posts/all
http://groups.freecycle.org/WestSuffolk_NY/posts/all
http://groups.freecycle.org/WestchesterNYFreecycle/description

Nov. 05 2012 11:05 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

It's Time For A Change.

They must go.

Bloomberg, Christie, Obama.

Nov. 05 2012 11:03 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Supposedly the MTA said that the G-train is a "low priority" for them - after a week of no explanation, and an inadequate excuse of the Newton Creek being flooded. Still no respect for the G-train - or its riders.

Nov. 05 2012 11:00 AM
Marlene from Far Rockaway

Hang on, Far Rockaway-ers! Big line of power company trucks on Seagirt in the Beach 20s this morning. They are from Quebec! Not a single LIPA truck in sight, but they evidently are getting help to us from other crews who have come into the area to help. With lack of phone, internet, etc. out here, not sure how many people will see this encouraging message, but help is on the way.

Nov. 05 2012 10:58 AM
Calls'em from McLean, VA

@ Soldier's Father from Westchester, NY - In addition to listening to local media in NY, I am getting first hand reports from my friends in the metro area including friends in Breezy Point whose house burned to the ground, from friends at NYPD and FDNY, from two contacts who are NYC Council members - both very active in relief activity, from a contact at NYCHA, and from friends and family on the Jersey shore. FEMA is AWOL as is 0bama. If this was Bush, the media would be ripping him and his agencies new ones, but since it "The Anointed One" he gets a pass as he has all his life. There are 40,000 homeless in NYC and 0bama gets a pass - give me a break.

Nov. 05 2012 10:51 AM

I wonder if the call-in approach, while being a good forum where people can vent and commiserate, risks confusing listeners. I heard one caller say she saw more volunteers in the Rockaways than people who needed help or even lived there, and another 10 minutes later appealing for help to deliver food and so forth.

Nov. 05 2012 10:49 AM
Leo from Queens

great point pedritovnyc. This will be used as an opportunity to get rid of public housing and further displace the poor at a HIGHER cost to tax payers.

Bloomberg is going to setup a lot of traps for these people that they will not be able to maneuver through and will end up on the streets or on some poor communities in the metropolitan area which have been identified as the ghettos to house the poor.

Nov. 05 2012 10:47 AM
Mihailo from UES

Somebody, call the NY Road Runners (I think that's who organizes the marathon), and ask them to deliver and distribute all the unused heatsheets that they normally give to the runners after the race; I believe that those things trap 95% of one's body heat.

Nov. 05 2012 10:47 AM
Jennifer from Westchester

I have clothing blankets and some assorted other stuff I was ready to donate-I am in Southern Westchester.
Does anyone know of a good place to bring these types of items to help those displaced from their homes????

Nov. 05 2012 10:44 AM
Edward from NJ

Are there people who should be going to shelters but aren't doing so because they don't think of themselves as the kind of people who go to shelters?

Nov. 05 2012 10:43 AM

Don't let Bloomberg and his friends in real estate grab the NYCHA land in Coney Island and Far Rockaway! It will cost less and will be substantially faster to fix the damaged equipment in these NYCHA houses than to relocate everyone out. Bloomberg and his real estate crooks will convert these to luxury condos!!!

Nov. 05 2012 10:39 AM
Brenda from New York City

To frustrated volunteers: Be your own CEO, look for the need & address it. Organized efforts are focused on relief (not volunteer) needs.
www.HereSheIsBoys.com

Nov. 05 2012 10:39 AM
LeoinNYC from Staten Island

Here are links:

http://interoccupy.net/occupysandy/live/

http://interoccupy.net/occupysandy/

Nov. 05 2012 10:39 AM
Laura from Manhattan

I understand the election is tomorrow, but I don't think Obama (and therefore Romney) should be campaigning right now. Clearly there is more organization needed from the federal level to help those affected by the storm.

Nov. 05 2012 10:39 AM
Zuwena

I feel very badly for all of us who have been devastated by Superstorm Sandy but what I want to know is, are those Staten Islanders demanding FEMA help and aid from the City the same republican folks feel that Government is too big and who just a few years ago wanted to secede from the City? Are these the same people who would not extend a helping hand to that black mother who lost two sons from the surging water? The Mayor mentioned the lost of the two boys but not the fact that she went to several "neighbors" for help in searching for them and was turned away.

Nov. 05 2012 10:36 AM
Karla from New York, NY

While the media coverage of this event was initially helpful and informative, after about 2-3 days that coverage has turned to creating some of the hysteria and despair that persons in hard-hit areas are feeling. Kindly put this into the larger political context. For example, the limits on the number of City and State employees who are available to work. Over the past years, those numbers have been diminished due to the attacks on governmental employees led most often by Republicans and supported by many of the citizens in these hard hit areas which often lean more Republican than democrat. Another example, give your listeners an understanding of how the Red Cross operates. It can't just go into a neighborhood and do whatever it wants, it has to conduct its business under the auspices of the governing officials in the area. And for those folks who are criticizing police officers b/c they don't have answers to all of their questions, it shows again how b/c police officers are the most visible sign of government, they so easily get dumped on.

Nov. 05 2012 10:36 AM
Leoin NYC from Staten Island

Just wanted to say in response to Brian's comments about OWS that Occupy has actually been extraordinarily organized with regard to relief efforts. They had multiple websites up and running the day after with real-time lists of needed supplies and instructions on volunteering. They have been running shuttles from donation points out to shelters and communities. It's really impressive and inspiring and I hope that people take notice, whatever your politics are.

Nov. 05 2012 10:35 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

I have family in Rockaways - they are being treated like 2nd class citizens as usual - it took the mayor days before he visited "FAR" Rockaway, there is no heat, electricity, hot water, or cell phone service - god forbid one doesn't have a land line - there is no way to call 911. Shops are closed.

The A -train will be out of action for over a month, they say. And the mayor cared more about the marathon, as he shooed the feds away from helping his tax paying citizens?

Nov. 05 2012 10:35 AM
Paul from Manhattan

Brian, did the station ever follow up on the situation of the older woman in Edgewood NJ who was stranded in her high rise home? How are the elderly in the small NJ towns along the river managing?

Nov. 05 2012 10:33 AM
Jessie Henshaw from Way Uptown

The inability of one community to help others is a direct symptom of not having any habit of maintaining civil defense network. That's the bottleneck. We don't have a network of people with basic training, like to briefly check out and dispatch volunteers to where they're needed.

It's an old fashioned approach, to have a society that has channels for responding as a whole, and to be prepared for the unexpected.

Nov. 05 2012 10:30 AM
Leo from queens

diane from Somerset: Tell your relative to drive down from Somerset country to Mercer county- There are no gas shortages or line once you get to the Princeton area and south to Trenton and further down.

Nov. 05 2012 10:29 AM
Alan from Beach 87th Street

It's really bad out there as you already know so please keep the media pressure on the MTA and LIPA to get us service asap. Because the train is not running to Rockaway, one would think that the MTA would be using more buses to get out to the Peninsula, but this is not the case. We need more bus service from the MTA. The police is also clueless and have zero information for residents out there, all they say is "you have to be patient." Haven't seen FEMA or Red Cross anywhere.

Thank you to the Rockaway Beach Surf Club that has organized a great set-up to help with aid and manpower, as well as all of the volunteers that so effortlessly helped throughout all weekend. Extra thanks to the MOMA PS1 curators that also coordinated a huge effort to help residents out there and brought out two full bus loads of volunteers. Sanitation; thank you, thank you, thank you!

Nov. 05 2012 10:29 AM
BK from Drying Out Hoboken

Gas in Hudson0 Hess on Boulevard East in Weehawken. Two minute wait last night.
As for government help- it has not been ideal, but I am one of the lucky ones in Hoboken (power back on- no flooding). I tried to get information Tuesday by walking to city hall- nothing. Wednesday- nothing. I said to another person that the least the mayor could do was stick up a piece of plywood to be a mesaage board. Even if you don't have updated information, people crave some sort of contact in these times. At least tell us "we don't have an update yet, but this is what we know..." But Mayor Zimmer gave us nothing.
As for the comment about Katrina- nice try. And if you are in McLean VA keep your opinion of the responses on the street to yourself. Its not even close to as bad as the horror of neglect with Katrina.

Nov. 05 2012 10:28 AM
Jon Young from Staten Island

The callers from SI tried but there was coordination to some extent. The Assemblywoman Nicole Malliatokis led two days of volunteer cleanup at the beaches on Saturday and Sunday. Police were present, but I think they were from off-Island and really did not know what was going on.

Nov. 05 2012 10:27 AM
Soldier's Father from Westchester, NY

To: Calls'em in VA: Not clear how you are able to tell from Virginia how good or bad the Federal government response in NY and NJ has been (or how real the Occupy movement in NYC was last fall). Sounds like you are getting your info just from FOX News, which can be as slanted as you think the network TV has been. If you are going to "call 'em as you see 'em", you need to actually see 'em. Come on up and help, see for without either the Fox or MSNBC filters, then call 'em.

Nov. 05 2012 10:27 AM
john from office

The police have no way of knowing if the helpful stranger is a looter or a saint. The police drive around with the flasjing lights to scare of the looters, not just an empty exercise.

Robert from SI needs to calm down and be glad he is here not where ever he is from.

Nov. 05 2012 10:27 AM
Liz

Screw guns with chargers are needed in Rockaway. Also trash bags, masks and gloves.

Nov. 05 2012 10:26 AM
Leo from queens

a BASIC question that NO ONE Has asked or has decided to cover is the fact that the Port Authority and NY & NJ came into existence in order to address traffic and transport congestion in this area that was negatively impacting commerce. Yet during this tragedy we see that the ports and airports and PATH were crippled for days and that half of the transport infrastructure managed by the Port Authority is still out of commission and unusable.

Where does all the revenue that is generated by the Port Authority and received from the Federal government going? It's not going to strengthen the infrastructure that is the commercial LIFELINE for the whole NYC region

Nov. 05 2012 10:25 AM
Phoebe from Bushwick

I went to Rockaway yesterday with Occupy Sandy Relief. If people want help figuring out where to go, they can add "Occupy Sandy Relief NYC" on Facebook. They are very organized, though also very chaotic. The network they have created is extremely comprehensive and effective and figuring out where help is needed and coordinating that help when it arrives.

Nov. 05 2012 10:25 AM
Dylan from UWS

I'm organizing a group of actors to help out in Staten Island tomorrow so that people can get to their polling stations. I've heard New Dorp is one of the places that need help. Is this the case? Also, what should we bring that can be donated? Food and water or just supplies? THanks.

Nov. 05 2012 10:23 AM

fyi 11211
Brooklyn Pols Call For Restored Service on the G and L Trains | Observer

http://observer.com/2012/11/brooklyn-pols-call-for-restored-service-on-the-g-and-l-trains/

Nov. 05 2012 10:21 AM
diane from Somerset

Where can we get information on open gas stations in NJ? Hudson County? I'm asking for a cousin who is driving around.

Nov. 05 2012 10:20 AM
Leo from Queens

I would hope that WNYC and the media will closely look at the decisions being made to move and displace people and the elderly from NYCHA and from nursing homes.
This is an OPPORTUNITY for Bloombgerg and the Real Estate interests that surround him to remove these people from 'desirable' 'luxury' areas and to remove more people from the City.

These public housing units are located where they are by DESIGN due to the policies from the 40's-50's where minorities and the poor were moved to the margins and industrial areas of the City. Now these areas have become desirable and there has been a push to force these people out.
The media should question the motives for the decisions that will be made in the coming weeks and months and should be questioning why these buildings are not able to restore basic services even when power has been restored.
Keep your eyes open to help protect the poor and the elderly

Nov. 05 2012 10:17 AM
Calls'em from McLean, VA

PS - Brian, there is no "Occupy" movement. It was all made up by 0bama and his allies to give 0bama talking points in his class war-fare rants that he thought would help him win against Romney. In one debate, America realized that Romney was a smart, nice and thoughtful man worthy of the Presidency - negating one year of 0nama attacks and tens of millions of 0bama campaign dollars that targeted Romney.

Nov. 05 2012 10:16 AM
Paul from Washington Heights

Why is the A train closed down above 168?

Nov. 05 2012 10:14 AM
andy from manhattan

I joined some friends on Saturday to participate in relief efforts via one of the OWS splinter groups. They wanted a group publicity picture before we even got to the point in Red Hook we were supposed to be helping.

When we arrived at the place where they told us we would find opportunities to help, and we ended up spending hours following their advice, then trying to find people that needed help in Red Hook with zero results.

Yesterday, my wife and I volunteered through http://www.nycservice.org/ and did a huge amount of well-organized good in a short three hours up in the Bronx.

My advice to anyone who wants to help is this - stick to organizations with experience on the ground who know what they are doing. Well-intentioned amateurs will lead you astray, and leave you frustrated and more likely to be a distraction than a part of the solution

Nov. 05 2012 10:13 AM
Calls'em from McLean, VA

The response to Sandy by the federal government has been a miserable failure - probably worse than during Katrina and yet the left-wing media is silent to give 0bama cover for his terrible job.

Nov. 05 2012 10:13 AM
JM

Brian mentioned the 1-train in the far reaches of Manhattan.

Does he or anyone else know why the A-TRAIN isn't running from 207 to 168?

AND, when service will return?

Nov. 05 2012 10:12 AM
Dana Nigro from Berkeley Heights, NJ

Hi Brian,

Can you cover the continued suspended service on NJ Transit trains, including the indefinite suspension of the Morris-Essex line (second-largest in the state), and the weak coverage that the emergency buses set up this morning is providing?

Out here on the Gladstone and Dover branches, we have almost no alternatives. The emergency buses are only running from Newark Airport (5 buses, which doesn't even cover one train's worth of people on one time route), and then places that are not convenient -- Rt. 17 and Liberty State Park. We may as well as drive to the ferries or city. We're wondering why there aren't buses from Summit, which is the connecting hub for these two branches, and which has a park 'n' ride.

With the continued gas shortages, we can't be driving all the way to Newark for an iffy bus. That wastes gas and puts a lot more people on the highways, clogging them up. And that assumes that most every two-job family has two cars so that one could drive to a park and ride and the other could get to their job in a completely different location.

And there are people who depend on this line to get to their jobs in towns along the route, not just Newark but Summit and other towns. They don't necessarily have the income to have cars, so what's going to happen to them?

Thank you,
Frustrated Jersey Commuter

Nov. 05 2012 10:09 AM
jm

Why has the MTA not provided shuttles in north Brooklyn??

Nov. 05 2012 10:09 AM

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