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Middle East at the U.N.

Friday, September 28, 2012

Rami Khouri, director, Issam Fares Institute for Public Policy and International Affairs at the American University of Beirut, talks about the Netanyahu and Abbas speeches at the U.N. and other news from the Middle East.

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Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Sheldon of Brooklyn,

Your Socialist pals in 1939.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Non-Aggression_between_Germany_and_the_Soviet_Union

The Socialist Non-Aggression Pact lasted until the National SOCIALISTS invaded Soviet SOCIALIST in 1941.

Sep. 30 2012 01:20 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

"As they ran past a Japanese tourist, she said, one of the men fired into the woman’s face from a range of about 15 inches.

“They made us get down on our knees,” Ms Dousse said. “And then they started shooting. A man who was very heavy fell on me and the lady behind me also covered me … They shot me in the arm and leg, and then they started again shooting those who were still alive in the head.

The gunmen “took all the young women, the girls, and disappeared with them. I don’t know where they went with the women, but they hurt them. We could hear screams of pain,” Dousse said.

“It went on for a long time, an hour or an hour and a half. The terrorists came back again and again; they danced and sang,” she said.

Among the horrors, the marauders cut off the ears and noses of several of their victims. A note praising Islam was found inside one disemboweled body.

The foreign dead included 31 Swiss, 10 Japanese, five Germans, four Britons one a child a Bulgarian, a Colombian and a French citizen. The Japanese victims were four newlywed couples and an elderly couple on their second honeymoon."

The man who ordered that atrocity, Mustafa Hamza was just pardoned by Mohammed Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood President of Egypt.

Sep. 29 2012 09:08 PM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

Future French President: “Anti-White Racism Spreading Through France”

“An ‘anti-white racism’ is developing in neighbourhoods of our towns where individuals – some of whom have French nationality – express contempt for French people, calling them ‘Gaulois’, on the basis that they are not of the same religion, the same skin colour or the same origins as them,” he writes."

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/future-french-president-anti-white-racism-spreading-through-france/

Sep. 29 2012 09:02 PM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

ED, your hysteria is making you lose focus - to say that Stalin and Hitler were socialists, is beyond laughable. It's a waste of space to argue with you further.

"Martin" If me not buying into your reactionary, single-minded, right-wing mash, makes me a "lefty" then so be it. You calling me a "Jew Hater" tells me how much you trivialize actual anti-semitism.

And to your last point: You don't have the intellect of a Trotsky, Radek, Luxemberg, and Liebknech or the courage of an Andrew Goodman or Michael Schwerner, hence - you will never change the world the way they did, so I'm not concerned about you backing a movement that will never trust "non-Christians" to lead them.

Sep. 29 2012 01:49 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

The socialists, the "left", rebranded as "progressives" are mortal enemies of America and Western civilization.

The history of socialism is filled with oppression, suppression of free speech and incarceration and murder of opponents.

The Socialist hitler and Socialist stalin non-aggression pact of 1939 demonstrates that Socialism has history of being anti-democratic.

Tzar Putins sham "democratic" election in Russia is a modern day example of Socialism in action.

Socialists today support Islamists, who under any other situation would be mortal enemies, but because they both hate the US and Western civilization, they have come to align together today, as socialists did in 1939.

John, this is the United States of America, not the fascist, socialist reich you dream about.

Israel has the right to resist Islamism. Eurabia has surrendered.

Canada, Australia and the US will continue to resist.

Sep. 29 2012 08:21 AM
Tony

I won't have any respect for Jews until they kick the crap out of the Germans - those are the folks that really got one over on you during WWII. Until then I consider Jews to be losers.

Sep. 28 2012 10:41 PM
John

Hey Chuzzle - last I checked, this is the United States of AMERICA - not ISRAEL. AMERICA first, NOT ISRAEL. Got it? Don't like it? Move there and fight Iranians yourself. Oh yeah, we forgot, you're a coward.

Sep. 28 2012 10:17 PM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

Hugh Sansom, Leo, Sheldon, dboy -

When anyone is looking for fervent JEW HATERS - I point them toward the political LEFT...guys like you. It's always productive.

So, why do modern American lefties hate Jews so much, when we practically invented their philosophy?
LOL...you guys are just second stringers .... dumber and less educated than the originals.

Sep. 28 2012 05:46 PM

I like the way burning flags is now considered violence.The people who died while protesting in pakistan were no doubt murdered by the pakistani police -doing the bidding of americans who can't accept that people have the right to demonstrate against us.Good that the egyptians did not cow tow to our tyranical demands by opening fire on their citizens for shouting pro osama slogans or otherwise offending the americans on 9-11. And considering our embassy was vacated prior to the demonstrations-seems to me this narrative about the violent demontrations is really itself a lie.To mask our embarrassment that after 10years of wars in their homelands, countless dead or injured including americans-those people can assert their right and do so by protesting against us.The world and it's peoples do not belong to us as the arab spring uprisings AND these demonstrations expose.Hence we ignore that unpalatable fact and the futility of our 10 year wars and make a bru ha ha over demonstrations we label violent!The murders in libya were retaliation for our murder of a libya" resistence fighter".That with all our billions spent on our military we lacked the sense to protect embassies and consulates from vandals is an embarrassing failure on our part -not these new post revolutionary in flux countries fault.

Sep. 28 2012 12:45 PM
carl

what i'd love to know is where do these 80 million iranians get their nerve from?... looking to introduce a bomb in such a peaceful bedroom community... they should know that they have nothing to worry about... after all, wasn't it david frum and our pres. bush who said what wonderful people the iranians are?... and that we have their backs?...

Sep. 28 2012 12:31 PM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Why should he? He has taken advantage of our wonderful capitalist system and good for him.

Would you have preferred he took the "sistah soulja" route and become "an angry, radical, socialist" community organizer?

You are damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Sep. 28 2012 11:51 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

JayZee is a 1%er.

Is JayZee OK with wealth redistribution - his wealth?

Sep. 28 2012 11:42 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Yes Ed - it stands for all the extra zeros on his bank balance.

Sep. 28 2012 11:34 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Sheldon, The "Z" stands for Zero.

Sep. 28 2012 10:51 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

The self proclaimed Islamic Republic of Iran signed the NPT with the same intentions to honor the NPT as National Socialist Germany signed Neville Chamberlains paper.

Iran signing the NPT is Taqiyya, lying to advance Islamist goals.

Sep. 28 2012 10:49 AM
Truth & Beauty from Brooklyn

TP: G-d gave us the Land of Israel before the British existed. Also, anyone who lived in "Palestine" before it once again became Israel is technically a Palestinian - and that includes Jews. Try reading some history before making inane comments.

Sep. 28 2012 10:48 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

To dboy

When Pakistan and India do first, and after all Muslim states fully recognize the Jewish state.

Sep. 28 2012 10:48 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

"Obama fiddles (visits Jayzee/Beyonce, yucks it up with Letterman, visits The View) while the Middle East burns"

ED, you are watching too much Hannity, and it's "Jay Z", not "Jayzee"

Sep. 28 2012 10:47 AM

When the HELL is Israel going to sign on to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty!?

RIDICULOUS.

Sep. 28 2012 10:45 AM
Shirley Solomon Finkelman from Bronx, N.Y.

Mr. Khouri is surely familiar with the fact that there never was a Palestinian State, so how can he claim Israel is occupying Palestinian lands? (Those parcels owned by Palestinians that were taken, as we take lands for eminent domain, were conpensated for, to the best of my belief.) The lands he claims as Palestinian were part of the Mandate given to Britain after the first World War. They were disputed lands after the British left. So Israel has as much claim to it as the modern day Palestinians do. Also, before the establishment of a Jewish state by the UN, the people who called themselves Palestinians were Jews (The Palestinian Post was a Jewish newspaper, etc.)
I had hoped this would be brought up during program.
Nevertheless, I commend you for having the interview. Thank you.
Shirley Solomon Finkelman

Sep. 28 2012 10:43 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

The British drew borders for Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, without taking tribal boundaries into consideration.

The British invaded and settled Gibraltar, North America, Africa, Australia.

Sep. 28 2012 10:38 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Every time Islamists burn an American flag, a black jihadi, Egyptian, Iranian, Pakistani flag should be burned.

Obama looks more and more like Jimmy Carter (Worst President EVER) 2.0.

Both appease Islamists.

Obama fiddles (visits Jayzee/Beyonce, yucks it up with Letterman, visits The View) while the Middle East burns, US embassies are invaded and Americans killed.

Sep. 28 2012 10:33 AM

ISREAL "is not allowing IAEA to inspect all its sites"!!!

Sep. 28 2012 10:32 AM
tp

"the land the god of Israel gave to the Jewish people"

Sorry, but no. It was the British that gave Isreal the land.

Sep. 28 2012 10:29 AM

Brian ~

THANK YOU for having an intelligent and RATIONAL guest.

Sep. 28 2012 10:29 AM
oscar from ny

I applaude the u.s fir not taking a murdering stance like this yahoo character wants.
Netenyahu thinks hes the messiah of the world and so he desiding the fate of this world with a mediocre drawing of a bomb with a red stripe, how is it that anyone in their right mind can pay attention to this insanity??..when you were little didnt your parents tell you never to listen to your friends because what they do might just get you in trouble..let israel do whatever it needs to do, i pray to all those who want to attack the u.s with whatever weapons they have available to fail.

Sep. 28 2012 10:28 AM
Seth Pickenstiff

Bush drew a red line in the sand with Iraq, and see where that got us. We attacked the wrong country. And now we look like the a-holes.

Sep. 28 2012 10:27 AM
CK from YKT

Witek: Agree-- but Bibi's playing to his base and looking for the US to go be the big bully to defend them (again.) I think we've given them enough and Israel then behaves badly and comes running back to us for support. Enough.

Sep. 28 2012 10:27 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

A minority of Muslims commit terrorist attacks?

Here is a poll of British Muslims. The poll results state that 1/3 of young British Muslims support killing in the name of Islam.

And that is in the West where they might want to appear British, Western.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340599/WikiLeaks-1-3-British-Muslim-students-killing-Islam-40-want-Sharia-law.html

So much for Rami characterizing Islamist terrorism a minority of a minority.

Sep. 28 2012 10:26 AM
Joe

Mr Khouri says the vid is the "equivalent of burning the US flag."

Guess what-- they do that ALL THE TIME over there! What a bunch of hypocrites.

Sep. 28 2012 10:26 AM
NessieG

Khouri is such a blatant apologist and liar. For one thing, Iran is not allowing IAEA to inspect all its sites.Sorry, I don't have the time now to refute the rest of Khouri's lies.

Sep. 28 2012 10:25 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

Muslims get angry when the Arab prophet is made fun of, they get violently angry, but they have been burning American flags and occupying the land the god of Israel gave to the Jewish people is not considered by them blasphemy. To many Jews, occupying the land God gave to Israel is BLASPHEMY too!

Sep. 28 2012 10:25 AM
Seth Pickenstiff

jgarbuz, we found enough dead to know the Holocaust happened. We didn't need 6 million bodies. Your point makes no sense.

Sep. 28 2012 10:23 AM
Witek

To the current guest: thank you. This is a rare voice of reason in this madness. Btw. what Mr. Netenyahu really make me laugh. He is treating Americans (target audience) like children; showing "the bomb" ...

Sep. 28 2012 10:22 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

Arabs colonized Jewish land and so Jews have the right to re-colonize Jewish land. Jews have no right to colonize Arab lands. But there are no Arab lands west of the Jordan river, but only Arab people.

Sep. 28 2012 10:21 AM
BK from Hoboken

Hughsansom is correct in his description of Israeli behavior in the Middle East. However, the guest is not even discussing the well known facility buried in a mountain that Iran refuses to allow IAEA inspectors into. Lastly, I agree that we should not do anything ourselves- let Israel handle this themselves. We have done enough in the Middle East. Of course, Jewish money at home here especially during election time drives our politicians' foreign policy formulations that affect the whole country in behalf of a small powerful minority.

Sep. 28 2012 10:21 AM
Helene from Brooklyn

I think the Israeli "suspicion" has to do with Iran's President rejecting that a holocaust happened and the declaration that their jihad is to wipe out the nation of Israel. Also, its been written that the Koran includes the idea that its okay to lie in order to spread Islam. One last thing - "weapons of mass destruction" - who said there was? who said there wasn't? Thus, who are these "inspectors?"

Sep. 28 2012 10:21 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

"Palestine" is Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Egypt.

Sep. 28 2012 10:21 AM
tp

Give Palistenians the right of return and then Isreal will never have to worry about being bombed by Iran.

Sep. 28 2012 10:20 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

To dboy

Israel, India, Pakistan have the right to have bombs under the NPT, and Iran does not. It's that simple.

Sep. 28 2012 10:20 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Speaking of Crimes Against Humanity, which group hijacks passenger planes and flys them into buildings, which group placed a bomb on Pan Am 103, why are checkpoints necessary at every airport in the world, which group targets children for death such as the Fogel children and the Jewish school children in Tolouse France?

Sep. 28 2012 10:19 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

There can NEVER be 100% proof of a bomb program until a bomb is tested, just as there is no proof of a murder until a dead corpse is produced. There isn't 100% proof the Holocaust ever happened because 6 million corpses have not been found. Does that mean we deny the Holocaust? Denying that Iran is going for bomb just because a bomb does not yet exist is very dangerous.

We allowed South Korea to get away with it, and that is a tragedy, but letting Iran get away with it would be an utter disaster. That would be the end of the NPT and open the door for every other state to fool its way into getting bombs.

Sep. 28 2012 10:18 AM
Leo from Queens

The Bibi regime should not be demanding that the US government draw a red line in the sand (or the Acme bomb).

Bibi is an arrogant Wily Coyote

Sep. 28 2012 10:17 AM

How does the IAEA monitor secret nuclear weapons labs buried deep underground in multiple locations in Israel?!?!?!?

wtf?

Sep. 28 2012 10:16 AM
Dorothy from Manhattan

Finally some sensible talk about Iran.

Sep. 28 2012 10:16 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Right Wing, Messianic Israeli?

Which regime is dreaming of a 12th Mahdi to rise up from a well to bring whatever?

Which group has suicide bombers, who make pre-mission farewell videos.

Why did Iraq and Iran have an 8 year war which resulted in the deaths of 1,000,000 people?

Sep. 28 2012 10:15 AM
Elaine from Baltimore

"No chance", did he say "no chance"? Since when did Mr. Khouri become a prophet?

Sep. 28 2012 10:15 AM
Elaine from Baltimore

no firm evidence..... LOL!!! Of course not... it's probably buried 2 miles deep!

Sep. 28 2012 10:13 AM
Truth & Beauty from Brooklyn

I think that Mr. Khouri is making generalizations about Mr. Netanyahu. He doesn't live in Israel, so is not in the midst of the turmoil; neither is he the victim of the threat of eradication at the hands of MadMan Ahmadinejad.

Unfortunately, there is nothing either Israel or the US can do about these threats right now without being accused of doing the same thing Iran is doing, but when your way of life is threatened on a daily basis, your reaction tends to be a bit more agressive.

And, by the way, Iran and its mad dictator are not planning to talk with Israel, which it not only doesn't acknowledge, but won't refer to by name.

Sep. 28 2012 10:13 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Why does the Islamic Republic of Iran bury 3,000 uranium centrifuges deep underground if its nuclear program is peaceful?

Sep. 28 2012 10:13 AM

Pamela Geller and Netenyahu need to book a room in Hotel Delusional Psychosis and have at it.

Sep. 28 2012 10:13 AM
Wen from Brooklyn

If they want to strike... be our guests, but there is no reason we need to be pulled in. We've already armed Israel, helped pay for their military and given them (or they have stolen) advanced military technology. He should not be lobbying our country and asking us to lay our lives down for something that is not in our interest (although some will have you believe it is.)

Sep. 28 2012 10:13 AM

I keep remembering weapons of mass destruction. How do we know what they are doing? Do you trust this snake?

Sep. 28 2012 10:11 AM

What nation throws its weight around the region most (to use Brian Lehrer's words)? What nation attacks its neighbors with a gross impunity protected by the United States? What nation has been committing crimes against humanity against Palestinians, Lebanese and others for decades?

Sep. 28 2012 10:11 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

How does the IAEA monitor secret nuclear weapons labs buried deep underground in multiple locations in Iran?

Sep. 28 2012 10:10 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

There already is a two-state solution.

The are called Israel and Jordan.

Someone wants a three, four, five state solution.

Sep. 28 2012 10:08 AM

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