Breaking News: Soda Ban Passes

Thursday, September 13, 2012

WNYC's Fred Mogul reports from City Hall on the New York City Board of Health's approval of the ban on large-size sugary drinks.

→ "City Bans Big, Sugary Drinks at Eateries, Theaters"


Fred Mogul

Comments [9]

Brenda from Manhattan

I find it interesting that Bloomberg finds this to be the premier legislation of his tenure. Very telling, since I too feel his tenure has been a failure. He didn't make city government more efficient, quite the opposite, he hasn't been effective at creating economic growth, quite the opposite, hasn't been effective at reducing crime, unless you buy faulty stats. I guess things could always be worse, but that is not saying much. This policy actually makes me angry, as we usually buy a large size drink and share it to save a few bucks, but I guess someone as out of touch as Bloomberg cant understand that.

Sep. 14 2012 10:05 AM


If your establishment is regulated by the health department - meaning that the owner of the establishment must take a Food safety course and be licensed.

People who operate hot dog carts are preparing food. Those carts come equipped with stoves and ovens. The hot dogs are cooked in the cart. And they must have a food vendor license. Delicatessens also prepare food and must have food safety licenses.

Convenience stores either don't sell food at all or have food that is prepared prior to it arriving at the store. The difference between a "deli" and "convenience store" is where the food is prepared.

If an establishment actually makes a sandwich (physically adds mayo, tomato, turkey cheese, etc) then it is a deli and it won't be able to sell a soda over 16oz. If the sandwich is already prepackaged and just sold at the store, then its a convenience store and it will be able to sell whatever size soda it wants.

Sep. 13 2012 04:51 PM
Edward from NJ

@ladyjay114, If 7-11 doesn't "prepare" food, then neither do the hotdog carts. Both are just heating up food. I understand that 7-11's as "convenience stores" aren't regulated by the Department of Health. I'd just like someone to explain how that decision is made. What makes them convenience stores (not regulated) instead of delicatessens (regulated). Is is about having tables in the store? Is it about some percentage of money coming from hot food vs. packaged food?

Sep. 13 2012 01:40 PM

@Edward -

7-Eleven doesn't prepare food. The food comes frozen and they heat it up.

Establishments that don't prepare food are exempt from the law since they aren't rated by the Dept of Health.

This is an example of what makes this law so silly: At the corner of Whitehall and Water in lower Manhattan are two newsstands, a hot dog stand, a Halal meat stand and a McDonalds. The hot dog stand, halal meat stand and McDonalds won't be able to sell soda over 16 ounces because they prepare food. However, the two news stands will still be able to sell soda over 16 ounces because they don't prepare any food.

Sep. 13 2012 01:06 PM
Jeff Pappas from Dumbo

Why not ban SUV gas guzzlers ? Oh that would interfere with Oil and Free enterprise.
Seems like a silly Nanny State Ploy. Just give us all health care including Dental , Mental and Substance abuse.
Or launch a War on Sugar, Neo cons would lap that Honey up ...

Sep. 13 2012 12:03 PM
Edward from NJ

Why is a 7-11 not regulated by the Board of Health? They serve prepared food. How does that work? Could we get a follow up on that?

Sep. 13 2012 12:00 PM
Truth & Beauty from Brooklyn

The difference between this and posting calorie counts is that when the calorie counts are posted, people can read them and make their decisions accordingly. They should just post the calorie counts by the softdrinks as well and let people decide for themselves. Of course, people can always buy more than one 16 oz cup.

Sep. 13 2012 11:58 AM

I got my problems w Bloomberg but I do have to thank him for getting that ban on smoking passed in conjunction with funding nicotine meds like the patch.

8 or 9 years since I've sucked on a cancer stick.

Sep. 13 2012 11:58 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Whilst I have some philosophical issues with this statute. Gen. Bloomberg has the right to regulate the products and vendors, the city over-sees, via the heath dept. You guys gave him a 3rd term, so why not.

Sep. 13 2012 11:58 AM

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