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Republican Convention Coverage Part 2

Wednesday, August 29, 2012

Our coverage continues of the RNC live from Radio Row. Featuring:

Paige Cowett
Former Mayor Rudolph Giuliani on Radio Row in Tampa
Paige Cowett
Baratunde Thurston and Anna Sale at the Republican National Convention
Paige Cowett
Romney senior adviser Tara Wall on Radio Row in Tampa

Guests:

Rudolph Giuliani, Baratunde Thurston and Tara Wall

Comments [60]

Neil sedwin from Plainfield, NJ

I enjoy listening to Brian daily because he often challenges his guests when they discuss their legitimate policies, often countering by saying "and how do you respond to" the other side. Therefore, I was disappointed that Brian let Mr. Giuliani get away with the usual republican campaign lies and distortions. in particular Giuliani's charge that Obama is the most partisan president in recent memory who has made no effort to work with the republicans in congress. Obama's efforts to reach compromise with Speaker Boehner to resolve the debt crisis which was rejected by the republican caucus is well documented, as is Senator McConnell's declaration that his goal of the next 4 years is to do everything possible to defeat Mr. Obama. Why didn't Brian challenge the former mayor. Then there was Brian's failure to call out Giuliani on his claim that he (and, curiously, Gov. Christi) has not read his party's platform. These are so called leaders of their party and they don't know their party's platform? Give me a break! If they do not agree with it, it is Brian's job to get them to say it, not let them wiggle out with lame excuses.

Aug. 30 2012 08:40 AM
tom LI

Tara Wall? How can a black American female say that Charitable Orgs have succeeded in any sort of true lessening of NEED on those already in, or falling into the abyss of poverty - now many of them former Middle class, and Black!

Where do people like her find such allegiance to an ideology that already failed 4+ years ago...?

I just dont get it...

Aug. 29 2012 07:02 PM

Tara Wall let the cat out of the bag. In response to questioning on the ACA she stated clearly that what she wants is government partnering (i.e. footing the bill) for faith based organizations to meet charity care needs for people who don't have insurance. That's the world she wants you to live in. Good luck with that...

I have heard her twice and she is just a horrible spokesperson for this candidate. If I were to ever run for political office, I'd pay for her to work for the other side.

Aug. 29 2012 02:48 PM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Gary, I can call you a dum dum but you are from Queens, enough said.

You are again contradicting yourself. You will get no argument from me regarding profits, making the world go around. That is why your take on capital GAINS is silly - to say that a 15-20% cap gains tax will send true captains of industry to the hills is beyond naive.

Aristocrats and people with "old money" may be scared of paying "modest" capital gains, not people interested in making things and becoming rich.

Aug. 29 2012 12:30 PM
GARY from queens

@Sheldon from Brooklyn

You're outdoing yourself!

profits allows businesses to grow. that growth yields more avail jobs. OK dumdum?

What you democrats want are more jobs without profits. IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN!!

Aug. 29 2012 12:13 PM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

And Yes Gary - I can see the next Steve Jobs, Gates, Zuckerberg saying " I have this brilliant idea that will make me tons of money but bummer, I don't want to pay more than 15% in taxes - I will have to pass"

I can see a banker or other crony capitalist saying that, not a true job creator.

Aug. 29 2012 12:09 PM
Sheldon from Brooklyn



Gary, I can also call you a "dum-dum" but I will be the adult - for now.

First off you seem to contradict yourself by saying "as if there's no other reason to invest, than to make a profit???!!!" But then you say "No one invests their money to create jobs. They invest to make profits!!!!" What is it Gary?

Gary my grasp on economics may be abysmal but not my take on history. We live in an era of "rentiers" - people who have no interest in "creating jobs" but simply do not want to pay taxes on their money, which is fine by me but the "job creator" thing is what your GOP keeps using to justify the rich paying less taxes.

Aug. 29 2012 12:04 PM
The Truth from Becky

121 in the building, period, and not all were GOP members. I thought that number sounded a little high, I didnt count that many people.

Aug. 29 2012 12:00 PM
Frank from Glendale, NY

Brian, you KNOW tomorrow's "special guest" at the RNC will be Donald Trump pointing to President Obama and saying "You're fired!" Not sure if that's before, after or during Romney's acceptance speech...

Aug. 29 2012 11:58 AM

Brian you're the best! I wished you said these things all the time.

Aug. 29 2012 11:57 AM
MrD from NYC

It's funny how unfunny Baratunde Thurston is.

Aug. 29 2012 11:57 AM
tim from nyc

@Dan

ha! great quote. thanx!

Aug. 29 2012 11:56 AM
Jack Jackson from Central New Jersey

@gary from queens

"Right now there's hardly much difference in the tax rate between capital gains and income."

What you say? Are you calling 35% the sames as 15%?

The 35% rate (which will go to 39.6% on Jan. 1 absent action from Congress) doesn't come close to the combined 25% marginal PLUS FICA hit that the average American worker gets socked with. (Around 38% of income, 9% coming from their employer. (which is extra ugly for the self-employed!)

Aug. 29 2012 11:56 AM
tim from nyc

@ Lorraine from JC NJ

brian isn't giving his hard-hitting questions because he's leaning further and further left.
of course, he always has been left, but it's just so transparent now.

hey brian, how about some "unbiased" reporting for a change.
commentary ain't becoming for a reporter

Aug. 29 2012 11:55 AM

fuva,
bear in mind he's counting all negros not just delegates.
the number of black delegates is even smaller
i even heard that the delegates from guam or some such got front row seats to add "some color"

Aug. 29 2012 11:54 AM
Amy from Manhattan

I missed the name of the speaker who tried to co-opt "Yes we can," but I have to give him 1 point for not including Pres. Obama's middle name, as so many Republicans make a point of doing.

Aug. 29 2012 11:53 AM
tim from nyc

brian

love your show and love your style. but of late you are less "unbiased".
could you give this "unbiased" reporting a shot again?

Aug. 29 2012 11:51 AM
Joe from nearby

Omg, these clips from last night are comedy gold! Give us more!
Lol!!

Aug. 29 2012 11:49 AM
Dan

"I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.” -Grover Norquist

This is the lobbyist before whom the GOP genuflects- even though they swore to represent the People.

Aug. 29 2012 11:47 AM
fuva from harlemworld

So those 121(?) negroes constitute what percentage of total attendees?
Yo, Baratunde, we need a documentary on these people! And the lone persons placed in the background during speeches. For real, this phenomenon demands scrutiny.

Aug. 29 2012 11:46 AM
gary from queens

@Sheldon from Brooklyn

Your understanding of economics is abysmal.

Right now there's hardly much difference in the tax rate between capital gains and income. But beyond that, you minimize the adverse effect of capgains tax by saying it's only applied to profits, as if there's no other reason to invest, than to make a profit???!!!

You betray your ignorance by actually saying that such selfish investors are "not a job creating entrepreneurs".

DumDum----No one invests their money to create jobs. They invest to make profits!!!! Jobs come with the success and expansion of that business, unless taxes tax that wealth created and hands it to government.

Aug. 29 2012 11:45 AM
Jack Jackson from Central New Jersey

Your focus on taxes is misplaced. IMO, you should be looking at incomes. Sliding more dough to the upper tiers - which is what uneven treatment of capital gains versus earned income and taxing savings as regular income has socked the earning power of the average wage earner.

After the death of Neil Armstrong, I took the opportunity to look up average earnings and GDP since the moon landing. Average earnings went up seven times ($5800 to $41K), while the GDP went up fourteen times ($980B to $14.5T). By allowing the average wage to become detached from the general economy, we cut our own throats.

A change has to happen but the attitude of what is 'fair' is itself a political answer. I fear that all our great leadership has created in the new America is more poor people. Shame on us.

Aug. 29 2012 11:43 AM
thatgirl from manhattan

of course rudy's "happy with (his) life!" he's bilking the u.s. and dozens of other countries of million$, selling them "security services" as "america's mayor." hard to hold the gag reflex back here.

way to tiptoe around the fact that you could never get elected to anything by "your own!"

Aug. 29 2012 11:42 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Guiliani can lie about the Republican filler-buster because Obama never mentions it.

Aug. 29 2012 11:37 AM
Guy from NYC

The whole GOP thing about "not reading" the platform is pretty telling about their whole program: tell Americans anything that might get them elected while sliding their true intentions through hoping no one notices. They apparently think that, in this way they can push a radical vision without wasting time defending it.

Aug. 29 2012 11:37 AM
Peter C from Paramus

I once saw a clip on TV of Giuliani saying that President Obama is just not a bright person. What did he mean by that and is he backing off on that?

Aug. 29 2012 11:37 AM
Amy from Manhattan

Montague Tigg, there were plenty of homeless *people* sleeping on the sidewalk during Giuliani's administration--& spending the night on the floor of the Emergency Housing Office after being issued a court order against it.

Aug. 29 2012 11:37 AM
GW from Manhattan

I don't know what world .. wait a min I DO know what world gary from queens lives in ... the problem is it is an armchair world that most of these conservative republican/libertarian Ann Rand types comfort them self with. IT is fading, it is being consumed, and after it destroys our future it will be repudiated.

Aug. 29 2012 11:34 AM
Mark from Westchester

Well, the Mayor of 9/11 didn't disappoint. New drinking game: everyone does a shot after every invocation of September 11th.

Aug. 29 2012 11:33 AM
Scott from Lower Manhattan

Could you please tell the truth Mr. Giuliani> When it came to getting a health bill, Obama tried to work out a compromise with every Republican senator who feigned openness to compromise. It was only after said Republicans made clear that they would not accept anything repeatedly raising vague objections with no suggestion of what to do differently that Obama went forward with a unilaterally Democratic approach to passing health reform.

Aug. 29 2012 11:33 AM
Amy from Manhattan

Brian, could you ask Giuliani about the records he had sneaked out of his office in the middle of the night at the end of his last term--the ones he was *required by law* to provide to the public, which would have shown whether many of his claims of great accomplishments were true or not?

Aug. 29 2012 11:32 AM

More lies--this time from a master, Rudy Giuliani--giving another repeat on "Obama's failure" without mentioning that the GOP and Tea Partiers blockage in Congress in the last two years exacerbated things in with the purported "fiscal responsibility."

Where was this wanz during the W years? Just flacking for the Party--and trying to get the nomination for 2008.

Truthfully, the GOP has nothing to offer--except disenfranchising or downright promoting the premature deaths of less advantaged or "undesirable" Americans through malign neglect posing as "fiscal responsibility"--all the while skimming off tax revenues and public monies for private middlemen. It's a cross between a pimpocracy and our World War II enemies (who at least spent money building an infrastructure of murder rather than letting the bad health that comes with poverty snowball into early death).

However, in a United States where people know more about the crap on "reality" TV than about world history, the GOP seems to be able to get away with this, aided by their Propaganda Ministry (Fox, right-wing, tax-sheltered "think tanks," and talk radio), not to mention the echo chamber of non-aligned media which repeats each and every lie (CNN, for example). Democracy requires an educated populace; dictatorships discourage critical thinking.

From Christie's speech basically ignorning Romney's candidacy and promoting his dubious achievements in New Jersey, it would appear he wants to position himself for a run in 2016. He turned down the VP position this year, knowing that Romney would lose. And Romney will lose the presidential vote. However, if the long-term GOP plan for permanent power continues, Congress will continue to be in Republican/Tea Party hands and we'll have gridlock worsening our problems until the next roll-around--which will very possibly be our last as a Constitutional Republic.

Aug. 29 2012 11:32 AM
Tom Phillips from Manhattan

And Brian is interviewing Giuliani, why, exactly? This is the same rank opportunist who had his eye on national Republican stardom the whole time he was mayor, yet he was an immediate washout on the national stage, despite his shameless exploitation of 9/11! So why should anyone want to listen to what this man has to say? Especially when he criticizes a sitting President who inherited many problems, including scheming, dishonest opposition from the other party. Giuliani is just another publicist for the Republican party who gets to air his views unopposed on one of WNYC's best shows -- which has evidently become an arm of Fox News this week. Brian, I love you, but I'll come back when the convention is over and you guys can't be used this way again.

Aug. 29 2012 11:32 AM
Montague Tigg

Come on, ask big G how he feels about skweegee men being back on nyc streets and homeless sleeping back on the sidewalks. Bloomberg has reversed many of the things G fought years for

Aug. 29 2012 11:31 AM
Joe from Queens

THERE he Goes again to quote Regan he HAS to drop Sept 11 his moment of glory in a cesspool mayorship

Aug. 29 2012 11:31 AM

I cannot imagine a more waste of time than to have Giuliani on any air.

Aug. 29 2012 11:31 AM
gary from queens

@Jack Jackson from Central New Jersey

I'm not "smoking" anything. But I am choking on taxes.

YOU SAY:
It's easy enough to carve out capital gains exclusions for those earning less than $250K (or $500K or whatever).

I SAY:
That still will discourage investments. But beyond that, the real money is not in taxing income. the rich will stop taking salary and take their compensation some other way to avoid income taxes. But many senior citizens accumulated wealth to live on after their working days. You donm't want to start eyeing savings as a criteria to tax people.

YOU ASK:
Why are capital gains and dividends taxed differently than regular savings interest?

I ANSWER:
Because they're virtually the same. all savings include some investment in stocks or mutual funds. tax that and watch investment stop and the economy decline further

Aug. 29 2012 11:30 AM
Guy from NYC

Rudy talks... and there it is "Sept 11" twice.

Aug. 29 2012 11:30 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Gary that capital gains premise is nonsense. If someone needs a tax rate , lower than most working Americans, to make investments, then, they are not a "job creating" entrepreneur - they are an aristocrat. (Remember, "gains" are taxed only on NET profits/gains, if there is one)

Aug. 29 2012 11:30 AM
MG from Manhattan

Hey Ghoulianni that's why Obama is the president and you are a talking head... and that is all you will EVER be

Aug. 29 2012 11:29 AM
Lorraine from JC NJ

Honestly Brian, why do you just let your guests get away with half truths!

Where are the hard hitting follow-up questions?

Aug. 29 2012 11:29 AM
Linda from NJ from NJ

Rudy Guiliani, I love ya, even though I'm a Democrat. You were a great Leader in the days after 9/11. But how can you say that Obama has not done anything on Unemployment, among other issues, since his Presidency? It all began in the Bush administration!! No President can clean up 8+ years of dysfunction in only 4 years.

Aug. 29 2012 11:29 AM
Amy from Manhattan

"Even with a Democratic majority"? I guess Giuliani doesn't know about the filibuster either.

Aug. 29 2012 11:27 AM
Stephan from Long Island NY

How did Tara Wall become a Sr. advisor to Romney when she can’t tell the difference between Medicare & Medicate. Check out “Tell Me More” from yesterday when Tara demonstrated that she is just a token on the Romney train.
Brian love your show but American press needs to get tough like the British press.

Aug. 29 2012 11:27 AM
Jessie Henshaw from way uptown

If you're up for taking on "tough problems" how about our rapidly growing problems with the earth... or... haven't you heard how our economy works by using stuff to develop ways to use more stuff?

Aug. 29 2012 11:26 AM
Guy from NYC

Tara Wall must be some kind of cut-rate communication adviser because she is terrible. OR... her fumbling just reflects Romney's campaign, which hopes that economic problems will magically install a ultrawealthy cultist who refuses to divulge any relevant background information or vision for the country.

Romney's candidacy is fascinating. It shows that national politics no longer demands coherence or even a consistent narrative. Romney's attack statements have been mostly baseless falsehoods, while his defensive statements never add up, mostly because his "successes" are in Bain Capital, Massachusetts, and the Mormon community, experiences alien from many American's. His choice of Ryan seems mainly to undermine his campaign, forcing him to depart even further from the facts. And the "tough talking" surrogates only serve to alienate voters from Romney's milquetoast presentation.

Aug. 29 2012 11:25 AM

With all due respect Mr. Mayor, why don't you expand beyond your talking points? This is NPR not Fox News.

Aug. 29 2012 11:25 AM
Dan

Rudy- "success" is not admirable when it comes at the expense of innocent American workers & lines the pockets of vulture capitalists.

"Failed presidency"? Huh? Bin Laden wishes he had failed. More empty talking points.

obamaachievements.org/

Aug. 29 2012 11:25 AM
Amy from Manhattan

Wow, the Romney campaign's senior communications advisor doesn't know the difference btwn. livelihood & longevity? That doesn't make her a very good representative of his campaign.

Aug. 29 2012 11:23 AM
MG from Manhattan

This poor woman from the Romney campaign ... her nervousness belies the contradictions she represents... but she needs a job so I guess who can blame her for saying what ever crap gets her a paycheck...

Aug. 29 2012 11:20 AM
The Truth from Becky

@Gary - I hope you reap what you just sowed with that evil comment.

Aug. 29 2012 11:19 AM
gary from queens

Hey Brian

Even Obama joked about the Birther controversy in many speeches. Does THAT make Obama a racist too?!

Aug. 29 2012 11:19 AM
Joe

With all due respect, Ms Walls has been completely co-opted.

Aug. 29 2012 11:19 AM
Alice L Knopf

Would all good people counter the Romney assertion that Obama took 716 biullion from Medicare with the fact that the Ryan budget takes out the same 716 billion.

Aug. 29 2012 11:17 AM
Jack Jackson from Central New Jersey

@gary -

What are you smoking and where can I get some?

Sununu is lost cause. A born-again conservative who was happy enough to see Dubya and the GOP double the public debt.

It's easy enough to carve out capital gains exclusions for those earning less than $250K (or $500K or whatever). Why are capital gains and dividends taxed differently than regular savings interest? The Thrift function - who contributes, who controls, who benefits - needs a serious re-think in our post-Great Recession world.

Aug. 29 2012 11:15 AM
pliny from soho

"Obamacare" is not popular on the left either.

Aug. 29 2012 11:14 AM
Guy from NYC

"the least among us"? is that a saying? if so, Brian would do well not to mindlessly repeat it.

Aug. 29 2012 11:14 AM
gary from queens

Obama is the Infanticide President

Progressives claim to have the compassion thing sewed up. Unless it involves newborns and preborns.

This oldie from 2008 will shake you to the core.

August 22, 2008
Why Obama Really Voted For Infanticide
More important to protect abortion doctors than "that fetus, or child -- however way you want to describe it."
By Andrew C. McCarthy

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/225404/why-obama-really-voted-infanticide/andrew-c-mccarthy

Aug. 29 2012 11:13 AM
ethan from bk

yay for tara wall! a so-called "veteran political reporter" who (until about two days ago) didn't even know the difference between medicaid and medicare. what up, 'tell me more'?

Aug. 29 2012 11:10 AM
gary from queens

Brian gets his nose bloodied yesterday from a real ideological conservative like Sununu. So now he takes refuge with a couple of tame RINOs like Rudy and Orin.

Sununu, for example, had to explain to Brian why risk must be rewarded by taxing capital gains at a lower rate than other income---like most of the economically successful nations of the world do.

But what Sununu didn't mention is that senior citizens, like Brian's daddy in Riverdale, primarily rely on capital gains to live on, after they retire. Which means taxing capital gains doesn't penalize solely evil billionaires.

In other words, those retirement funds are invested in the markets, and taxing that income on investments will both discourage investment, and reduce the standard of living of the elderly, like---if I neglected to mention---Brian's father in Riverdale.

Aug. 29 2012 09:55 AM

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