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Republican Convention Coverage Part 2

Tuesday, August 28, 2012

The exterior of the Tampa Bay Times Forum, site of the 2012 RNC (Paige Cowett)

Our coverage continues of the RNC live from radio row, featuring:

New Jersey Republcan leader Thomas Kean, Jr on Radio Row at the Republican National Convention in Tampa
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WNYC Reporter Anna Sale

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Comments [45]

Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Thank G-D Christie isn't Romneys VP pick.

Christie is too low-class. Too Jersey.

Aug. 28 2012 03:30 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Wouldn't it be nice if Apple computer brought their manufacturing back to the US.

Apples prices are so high compared to other manufacturers, they clearly don't worry about turning off their cult.

Aug. 28 2012 03:28 PM

jawbone
thanks for the info, but it doesn't seem fixed to me. or maybe the GOP just talks like it's running out of money
in any event i just can't forgive the boomers for the messes they leave.

Aug. 28 2012 03:20 PM
Liz Demaree from South Orange, NJ

I was appalled at the amount of misinformation Sen. Kean managed to impart about Gov. Christie.

Here are the real stats about the state of our state:

1. NJ's overall state finances (the basis for state bond rating) rank 42nd in the nation, according to Barron's (8-27-12).
2. Our unemployment rate is higher than the national average.
3. In my town of South Orange/Maplewood, state aid to schools dropped 37% in 2010-2011. (According to South Orange Patch). My property taxes rose 33% this year. Not hard to figure out the math here.
4. The jobs we've lost have mostly been government jobs, while the job gains have been in the service sector - so we're losing higher paying jobs and gaining lower paying ones.

Sen. Kean, in trying to justify Christie's non-choice on Obamacare (which would help the thousands of uninsured in the state), said that Christie "was looking to the long term, so that our children would be able to afford to live in the state." So where are his long term goals when he cancels the new Hudson River tunnel, which would not only create hundreds of construction jobs, but would also enable NJ Transit to add more trains, thus reducing traffic on the roads, at the tunnels, etc? Instead he chose to fund a boondoggle of a mall in the Meadowlands, which of course can't be reached by public transit. And I believe the developers (the 3rd group, if I'm not mistaken.) are cronies.

Christie's latest gimmick is to try and take money from the Affordable Housing budget, and put it into the general budget, so that somehow he can justify cutting state income taxes. With a horrendous deficit, the idea of cutting state taxes is just fiscally irresponsible. Oh, and yes, the highest earners would be the main beneficiaries of such a plan. So I guess he's really just the kind of guy the Republicans admire.

Too bad the media seem to think he's so great. They need to ask more of us Jersey girls what we think.

Aug. 28 2012 01:51 PM
jawbone

Continuation of comment just below:

BTW, the "fix" for SocSec is so easy -- just increase the cap on income subject to FICA. So very easy. Except for Repubs who would rather "fix" SocSec by destroying it.

The enemies of SocSec and Medicare now want to use the Banksters' Crash to undermine or destroy SocSec, Medicare, and Medicaid -- so that they can make money on our savings which goes directly into their CEO's and other big wigs' pockets.

It seems to me, hjs11211, you've been mislead and are falling for their line...with its nasty hook on the end of it.

*"Give up" is not quite correct, as there was no way I could continue to pay for the private insurance.

Aug. 28 2012 01:50 PM
jawbone

OMG! Commenter hjs11211 @ 11:46AM -- Oh, so wrong. So sadly wrong!

Do you not know that Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan made a Grand Bargain in the early 1980's to "fix" SocSec, to prepare it for the coming retirement of the Baby Boomers? They realized a smaller population coming after the Baby Boom demographic bulge would be unable to pay in sufficiently to cover Boomers, so they made the Boomers "pay ahead," and pay for their own SocSec along with paying for the generations coming before them. You see, theretofore, the current workes payments into FICA covered the then recipients of SocSec, but a smaller workforce wouldn't be able to cover the huge Baby Boom, so we were asked to PAY AHEAD, to pay more than those before us had to do.

I hope this is clear? If not, please ask questions. or Google.

The O'Neill-Reagan "fix" required 1) higher payments than needed per person beginning immediately and 2) later retirement age for full SocSec payments.

I was so young at the time, thinking I would be able to work well into my 60's. I had no doubt about it, as I'd always been healthy. Well, nearing my retirement years, I was downsized by a Corporate Borg which wanted cheaper employees. Then I got cancer (no known causes except above ground US atomic bomb testing into the 50's), and even after my treatment was successful (meaning I would probably not get any more cancer for about 20 years, well after working years), no employers wanted to add my health history to their insurance roles and costs. And I was, contrary to the Repubs who say people can work forever, considered "too old" to be a new employee.

But, thank goodness for FDR and LBJ -- On my 65th birthday, I was able to give up my private for-profit insurance* (individual plan), running about $1200 PER MONTH, and get on Medicare. I also had to take my SocSec then, as I'd tapped out my savings in order to have health insurance. And that was in the bad, bad times for 401K's, during the Big Financial Meltdown brought about by all the lack of regulation of the FIRE sectors and the games banksters played.

Counting on doing well on a 401K? Hopefully, you won't be unemployed, paying through the nose for health insurance, and won't have the third whammy of an economic crash lowering your net worth. Also, you'd better hope that new consumer regulation agency makes sure you're not ripped off by shady fees charged to your 401K.

But, dear hgs11211, most Baby Boomers, and, alas, others coming after, have paid about twice what had been the amount being paid into FICA. And we did it, because it was the law and many of us realized it was necessary due to the huge population bulge. We also, believed in the trust fund and the full faith and credit of the US.

Cont'd.

Aug. 28 2012 01:48 PM
jawbone

****Brian, IMPORTANT RESEARCH on incidence of illegal identity voting.****

I heard a report on this data base of voting fraud crimes/allegations just recently on WNYC, not sure which program. BUT, the crux of their finding is that from 2000 through, iirc, 2008 or 2010 there were only TEN INCIDENTS of FALSE IDENTIFY VOTING. 10, count'em, 10. In the entire US, and they are updating their data base when new reports which are confirmed come in. The woman who saw so much illegal voting should contact this group by following the link.

Oh, and for 10 illegal identity votes, how many valid voters will be deprived of their right to vote??? This is so unamerican that even Republicans should be against this kind of voter discouragement. As should the courts, fer cryin' out loud! Seems rather unconstitutional to me, but then I'nm too liberal for Obama.

QUOTE

<a href="http://votingrights.news21.com/article/election-fraud/"><b<Comprehensive Database of U.S. Voter Fraud Uncovers No Evidence That Photo ID Is Needed</b>
By Natasha Khan and Corbin Carson | News21
Published Aug. 12, 2012, 10:39 a.m.

SIDEBAR: Exhaustive Database of Voter Fraud Cases Turns Up Scant Evidence That It Happens

A News21 analysis of 2,068 alleged election-fraud cases since 2000 shows that while fraud has occurred, the rate is infinitesimal, and in-person voter impersonation on Election Day, which prompted 37 state legislatures to enact or consider tough voter ID laws, is virtually non-existent.

END QUOTE

Aug. 28 2012 01:44 PM
GOVT has, CAN and should create jobs! from BRIAN, CONFRONT THE MYTHS!


BRIAN,

Please CONFRONT the MYTHS! DONT let the Republicans
(and a sad number of Democrats) simply repeat the Myths
by route without challenging them!

Of course, Government can create jobs!
In the previous depression, it created MILLIONS in a MATTER OF MONTHS.
It was called the WPA - which you and your guest have often highlighted.
Their works still add value to our nation - TO THIS DAY.
NEXT TIME ANYONE SPOUTS THE ERRONEOUS MANTRA THAT GOVT CAN'T
CREATE JOBS, CONFRONT AND EXPOSE IT - don't let it be accepted
merely by repetition!

What is INEFFICIENT is BRIBING Businesses to create jobs.
(RATHER TAX THOSE WHO DESTROY JOBS OR OFFSHORE THEM - SINCE
THIS CREATES A NEGATIVE EXTERNALITY (eg. harm and expense)
to the rest of society).

Indeed, government has recently created a great many jobs -
after all the INTERNET was created by government funded research.
Govt funded programs - including the space race and DARPA research
also played a key role in the development of most of the electronics
and computer industries in general, and plays an ongoing role in
medical and other innovation. In fact, GOVT creates industries and
jobs, businesses USUALLY just follow.

FInally, I'd add that the DEMOCRATS' BLIND ACCEPTANCE
of the false Mantra that GOVT can't create jobs has lead
to a PROLONGING of our current depression, AND to
GROSSLY inefficient spending on weak give-aways to bribe
business to create (or pretend to create) a few stray
jobs on the margin. Meanwhile widescale layoffs of local
and state govt employees further drags down our economy.

BRIAN, PLEASE CONFRONT THIS IGNORANT AND MISINFORMED MYTH.
IT IS HARMING OUR COUNTRY!

Aug. 28 2012 12:07 PM
michael miller from Westfield, NJ

This entire segment this morning shows the shift of WNYC to the The standard Talk Show format lack of depth. Example With ex Gov NH Discussing fossil fuels. Brian asked about Climate Change, a buzz word because he did not probe . The under pinning is PUBLIC HEALTH. Does Govt. Need To Protect Public Health?? Obama has foot on throat of Coal?? No Probing question. P.S. All NH lakes and forest suffer from ACID Rain. Things are improving because of EPA and Clean air rules. NJ senator Kean ( I live in Westfield)He stated that he supports the Right to Life. Brian did not ask him to define. Actually the right to birth. The Governor cut pre and post natal care, School breakfast lunches, clean air and water.

Aug. 28 2012 12:05 PM

"Making and keeping a successful business is no picnic, especially when you need to hire workers. Try it sometime."

jgarbuz, if you need to hire workers, then your business has demand and is probably successful. The challenge for a business owner is when that business isn't generating enough income to justify keeping its workforce.

Owning a business or being employed by a business has never been a picnic, either way.

Aug. 28 2012 12:01 PM
jawbone

Brian, I think we'll need a segment which does FACT CHECKING on all the falsehoods put out by these poor deluded Republicans, both supporters and actual pols.

Such as the canard that when SocSec was put in place few lived beyond or to 65. However, in the 30's, if someone made it to 65, the tended to live a goodly number of years beyond 65 and did indeed collect SocSec.

The overall life expectancy was reduced by infant deaths and women dying in childbirth, plus the problems of not having effective bacteria fighting drugs. Sulfa drugs became available in 1935 (not sure how widely used), but penicillin was not widely available until the late 40's.

There are many sources which prove this poor caller's argument wrong -- but if interviewers will not challenge misstatements and false statements, how is the public to know what is the truth???

Oh, yeah, they're supposed to have access to data bases and the internet to try to look up everything a pol says, right? All on their own, after working 8-10 hours, with long commutes and family obligations?

I'm wrong? Public braodcasting was supposed to fill this gap? Oh! OK!

Aug. 28 2012 11:57 AM
Henry from Manhattan

Responding to Charles the caller:

Romney is a man of integrity? Actually, I think probably is, somewhere in there. However, his party makes him say things that he clearly does not believe. Romney comes off as a phony because the GOP demands that he does.

I could probably feel comfortable voting for Romney if he actually ran on issues he believed in and didn’t just spew things the Republican base apparently needs to hear.

Class warfare?

Oh, just stop it.

Aug. 28 2012 11:52 AM

Too many quacks per unit time on your show Brian. Surely there are more informed voices no?

Aug. 28 2012 11:51 AM
Jerry

The caller was just plain wrong about SSI. Although it is administered by the Social Security Administration, payments for SSI come out of general revenue. not anyone's Social Security taxes

Aug. 28 2012 11:48 AM
Joe from nearby

Did Romney's 5 sons serve in our military?

*crickets...........*

Aug. 28 2012 11:48 AM
jawbone

Did your guest report these voting infractions she's saying she saw? If not, why not? If yes, what happened?

According to a very careful study of the number of false identity voting crimes in the US, reporter recently on some program on WNYC, only 10 were found since 2000 in the US.

YES, ONLY 10 FALSE IDENTIFY VOTER CRIMES since 2000.

What did this good Republican poll watcher or volunteer DO about all these crimes she witnessed?

Oh, and the cuts are to the SUBSIDIES given to Medicare Part D private for-profit insurers. Who say their competiveness will make them cheaper than regular Medicare. Of course, that's not what's happened. Too bad no one (ahem, Brian) didn't mention that to the guest.

Which brings to me Gwen Ifill's denial of any reportorial responsibility to confront political guests with the fact that they are lying. I think this is a Jim Lehrer dictat, that no one will speak ill of the politically powerful.

But, what prevents even a NewsHour interviewer from saying, "Dear Pol, you said X, but facts as reported by (expert source) are A, not even close to X. Why do you continue to say X since it does not match reality?"

Oh, right. Can't embarrass politically powerful fools and knaves.

We are so ill served by our media.

Aug. 28 2012 11:47 AM

Social security is not broke. But if funded properly it will go on for 100 years.
The boomers never paid for their retirement, now they want me to pay

Aug. 28 2012 11:46 AM
Joe from nearby

aller M
"Manny from Bergen"-

Wait, what??
The President has 3 and a half years experience as president.....while Romney has zero.
As in zippo.

Nada.

Aug. 28 2012 11:44 AM
oscar from ny

Over and over i keep hearing this bussiness about females that are not equal to men,..idk what world am i leaving in but here in ny woman are in a better position more than ever compared to men.
Woman are probably the only reason theres a middle class in ny, im almost scared to talk to any of them without them looking at me like im crazy..their attitude is why would i date you or talk to you when i can find nyself any rich handsome guy, theres like 100 guys for one girl here in ny.
Guys are loozers, the devils have been able to repeal woman from men, havent you noticed how beign gay is in style??..woman will rule, us men are just here in earth to be slaves, finally they are achieving to break down the system....i guess in the end only the strong will survive

Aug. 28 2012 11:42 AM
Roger from BKLYN

Come on Brian what is the point of interviewing people if you never press the point home. What are you afraid of ?? You should have pushed the lady on voter fraud numbers. Actual numbers .. but no yet again WNYC/NPR lets general mis statements stand. You guys need to take a leaf out of the books of some of the BBC interviewers.. or are you too scared. It's really disheartening when the station I love so much just keeps backing away from the edge.

Aug. 28 2012 11:40 AM
Steve

Thank you for the comedy segment with Renee Amoore. I love anyone who can complain about the government being too much in people's lives and be in a party whose platform calls for the government to make the personal of decisions for women. Also, regarding how you need government issued I.D. for everything and therefore should for voting,it's interesting that when it comes to buying guns Republicans don't believe that you should have to show anyone I.D. for that. I guess buying a gun is a Constitutional right but voting isn't.

Aug. 28 2012 11:39 AM
thatgirl from manhattan

it's painful to listen to ms. amoore because she's dead wrong about "taking" money from medicare for the new plan, AND she's a finger-shaking verbal bully who takes her style from her party henchmen. and like her party, she'll throw you under the bus if you're not 100% with her.

brian, please find another pundit from the right; amoore makes your broadcast sound like a limbaugh show, and she's woefully misinformed.

Aug. 28 2012 11:39 AM
Randi from Brooklyn

@Clif from Manhattan:

Black people are not monolithic. There are black Republicans.

Aug. 28 2012 11:38 AM
Henry from Manhattan

Renee Amoore says,
“Keep the government off of our backs! No needless regulations!”
then
“The government now demands ID to vote!”

When there was absolutely no problems with voter fraud other than “my side will lose unless we jigger things."

Want to pass voter ID laws for no reason because it's really a genuine concern? Do it AFTER the elections so that there's more than enough time for voters to get a heads up.

Aug. 28 2012 11:38 AM
TP

"Republican National Committeeman James Bopp, who had led a movement to oppose a new delegate rule on the convention floor, confirms to ABC News that he has agreed to a deal on compromise language."

There's no story, Brian, so you can skip this one.

Aug. 28 2012 11:37 AM
Truth & Beauty from Brooklyn

Brian- Ms. Amoore is yet another dyed-in-the-wool Republican who is just taking the party line. I think she's more interested in being interviewed than she is in making any sense. In one breath she says people shouldn't vote on just one issue and in the next she is only interested in the Republicans for their economic policies, which will doom us all. Unbelievably ridiculous.

Aug. 28 2012 11:36 AM
Randi from Brooklyn

I'm listening to Renee Amoore and her answers are not specific. Unspecific answers have been a problem for both sides. This is why I hate politics.

Aug. 28 2012 11:36 AM
g in staten island from staten island

Nobody has mentioned that if a single women or a couple needs/wants an abortion and cannot get it, it will effect their "personal ecomonmy". It costs several hundred thousand dollars to raise a child until age 18. It is harder for the woman to hold onto a job- a good job if she has a child she cannot afford. She will earn less money over time, save less for retirement, have less chance of having health insurance for herself and the child. Abortion choice is involved with your household economy.

Aug. 28 2012 11:34 AM
Sunshar from AZ, MI in SW

@Renee Amoore-- Ask her, and everyone who claims "regulations" -- what has changed, specifics, please, since Mr. Bush left office. What are the additional regulations -- especially regulations since Mr. Bush left. Afterall, Affordable Care Act will only affect businesses with 50+ employees. If they have 3 employees, looks like they aren't affected.

Re: ID's, I've heard the ID needed to even renew a current license can mean multiple forms of ID (maybe not PA).

Aug. 28 2012 11:33 AM
Judith from Brooklyn

One-voting is NOT like going to the bank, cashing a check, etc. It is a fundamental right of living in a democracy. Rights are not legislated-that's why they're called rights.
Two-Romney takes the same amount of money out of medicare and uses it for tax cuts; at least Obama uses it for health care.
Three-people without money don't have "choices" with respect to health care.

Aug. 28 2012 11:33 AM
clif from Manhattan

It's painful to listen Ms. Amoore. A black person rooting for Romney? I just don't get it.

Aug. 28 2012 11:31 AM

These GOP guests fabricate complaints about President Obama that simply aren't true. I suppose if they had nothing to complain about, there wouldn't be any reason to vote Mr Obama out of office.

Aug. 28 2012 11:31 AM
Ed from Larchmont

Senator Paul Ryan, as vice-president, can't change the law on abortion by himself.

We want health care reform, but Obamacare isn't it.

Aug. 28 2012 11:30 AM
Iven Rothenberg from New Jersey

I know this is Republican week and the show needs to interview the various convention attendees. But John Sununu! This guy is a racist from the get-go who has hated Obama from the beginning and has, at least to his credit, never hid his bigotry but been in your face with it. He calls Democrats liars but his record under Reagan was no bastion of virtue and truth. For a bright guy he sure is in denial about human-caused climate damage, renewable energy sources and the total tilt of the economy toward the super-wealthy.

Aug. 28 2012 11:25 AM
Chet from nj

PARKWAY AND TURNPIKE FEES DOUBLED WITH CHRISTIE,HOMESTATE REBATE IS GONE IF YOU MAKE $75000+. A lot of people want Obamacare. Bully is doying nothing for New Jersey

Aug. 28 2012 11:20 AM
Truth & Beauty from Brooklyn

Mr. Kean is just spouting the party line, not anything that makes sense. His father is at least a thoughtful and intelligent man, but the son is pathetic.

Aug. 28 2012 11:20 AM

so I guess this is repub week. a good time to switch to WQXR. see ya next week.

Aug. 28 2012 11:14 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

Making and keeping a successful business is no picnic, especially when you need to hire workers. Try it sometime.

Aug. 28 2012 11:12 AM

There would have been more jobs in NJ, if big chris hadn’t killed the tunnel to macy‘s basement.
he also adds hours to your commute.

Aug. 28 2012 11:03 AM
oscar from ny

Both president obama and president candidate romney are racist, they can care less about what the ppl of this nation wants, they just throw words and ideas around so the mass can have something to talk about, but in all reality their only agenda is to go forward and sell this country and everything in it to the highest bidder...the buyers are foreign devils around the mediterranian from long time agooo..

Aug. 28 2012 10:57 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

This listening audience is hilarious in its smug lock-step left wing chorus.

LOL .... you wouldn't know from the comments here that the Sun King only has a 45% approval rating. The other 55% obviously don't listen to Obama Public Radio.

Aug. 28 2012 10:49 AM
Lynn S. from Springfield NJ

The Governor may be an engineer but he is not a businessman. We have a small business and will give overtime before hiring because of one reason and one reason only, "PRODUCT DEMAND"! Both parties need to address one issue and issue only, globalization, what conditions do we need in America to compete with the world?

Aug. 28 2012 10:43 AM
Naomi from Brooklyn

With regards to your interview with Governor Sununu - I would really like to have heard you press more about Global Warming - as that is key to understanding the push for alternative energy policies. Can you speak to this more? How do Republicans view this? If they were in power, what would happen to environmental policy? What are the risks involved?

Aug. 28 2012 10:41 AM
Phil from Staten Island

Former Gov Sununu said that people who work for a salary "take the easy way out." WHAT?

Aug. 28 2012 10:33 AM
Patrick from Queens

I work for a small business and we've hired more people in the last 2 years than had been hired in the previous 5 before that. Doesn't sound like Obama is suffocating us.

What increased taxation that he says has already happened is your guest even talking about?

I'd like to put my foot on his neck.

The Germans are growing their alternative energy sources, why can't we. Take oil/coal subsidies and put them in alt energy and we'll see how affordable each is.

Aug. 28 2012 10:13 AM

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