Romney-Ryan 2012

Monday, August 13, 2012

Governor Mitt Romney has chosen Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan to be his running mate. To react to this choice and what it'll mean for the Republican ticket, we have Reihan Salam, columnist at The Daily and blogger for National Review Online's The Agenda. Then, Ryan Lizza, Washington correspondent for the New Yorker, discusses Paul Ryan's background and record. 


Ryan Lizza and Reihan Salam

Comments [83]

J Fenwick from New York

Fantastic show, fantastic host. BUT, it's "fewer reimbursemnets " to doctors, not "less reimbursemnets"

Aug. 13 2012 11:54 AM
The Truth from Becky

Another "Sarah Palin" move - a hail mary pass that won't work no matter how many "snappy" rhymes he comes up with!

Aug. 13 2012 11:26 AM
Kikakiki from New York

Neither Dem or Rep. I just want to know why people hear from the press, magazines, newspapers, radio, TV and the internet that medicare is an "entitlement" entitlement as in what people have paid into are entitled to get back out? People who do not need SS or medicare do all the talking, social security has a cap, it takes the 98% (upper middle, lower middler, poor income)at least 10 months to reach the cap, the cap is the same for everyone, so the 2% reach the cap immediately. All of the cuts proposed are on the services the 98% work diligently all their lives for. Obama, Biden, Romney nor Ryan will need social security or medicare yet they get to make decisions that will affect those who will need it. We've lost sight of what politicians are elected to do, that is to represent the People who sent them, not the 2% but the majority of the people who sent them.

Aug. 13 2012 11:15 AM

Nice balance on the Paul Ryan segment: one guest from the Republican right, with as is the norm from Brian Lehrer no challenging contrary arguements or facts presented. Way to go.

What were you thinking? That was disgusting.

Aug. 13 2012 11:14 AM
John A

They could still win, but I'm chalking this up to: Republican Party, still in rebuilding years (and, No suitable candidates).

Aug. 13 2012 11:07 AM

That was supposed to be GWB, not BWB.

Aug. 13 2012 11:06 AM

CK at 10:29 said "in three and a half years, how is it that the deficit has shot up, we're still in wars and Abu Grabe is still open? What's Obama done to fix it?"

OK....BWB went to war in Afganistan, and then decided to go to war for entirely trumped up reasons in Iraq. You know, where our troops would be greeted with flowers and it wouldn't even cost anything because we would take some oil revenue and in no time the people would have a nice democracy going. This largely drained resources from the original Afganistan project and along with tax cuts mostly for the wealthy exploded the deficit. The national debt, after the WWII spike, was reduced compared to GDP by every presidential administration except Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II. Clinton was actually paying it off. Most of the national debt is due to those three presidents.

You may have noticed that, because of lessening regulation over the years and intentional lack of enforcement of what was left by Bush II, the finance industry created the biggest crash since the Great Depression. But because of the national debt created by R, B and BII, there wasn't a big pot of money to fix it quickly. Obama did what he could with a bill half the size most economists said was necessary and also about a third tax cuts, which are the least efficient way to do it, both at the insistence of Republicans in Congress. Tax revenues are down in a severe recession when 8% of the workers are unemployed anyway, and expenses are up for extra unemployment insurance costs and more people on Medicaid etc.

Obama, who opposed the Iraq war in the first place, managed to end that one on schedule. He put more into Afganistan and is now winding that one down on schedule.

Abu Ghraib in Iraq was closed for three years and reopened as a prison in a reformed state. If you were actually thinking of Guantanamo, Obama tried to close it. Republicans wouldn't let him.

Does that answer your questions?

Aug. 13 2012 11:04 AM
Roger from New York

The basic question some have raised is whether Americans will continue to swallow - hook, line and sinker - an economic ideology which hurts the vast majority of the population. The sad truth is that there are far too many middle-class voters who vote against their economic self-interest. We are witnessing growing inequality in wealth distribution and opportunity. Now, Romney-Ryan want to take a failed ideology even further, adding to subsidies for the wealthy while cutting supports for the poor, sick and elderly. This is shameful and shortsighted. Will average Americans wake up and show they understand that they will be the victims of these policies? If they do, this election would not even be close.

Aug. 13 2012 11:03 AM
Joe from nearby


Thank you for clarifying that 'entitlement' point for all the dopes whose heads are in the clouds about it.
It's clear the GOP needs us to buy into that lie so it will appear they aren't stealing our money from us.

Aug. 13 2012 11:01 AM

I find it fascinating that the Ryan supporters keep saying that when Ryan "understood" how his original plan would devastate the middle class, he changed it. Oh so he put out a budget without understanding it's ramifications? That's who you want? That doesn't sound like someone who is "well thought out" to me.

Aug. 13 2012 10:53 AM
Jim Cooper from Northern NJ

Medicare is NOT an 'entitlement' and it is NOT 'free medical care' -- as Brian and guest have called it a couple of times this morning...

I pay over FOUR HUNDRED dollars EVERY MONTH for Medicare INSURANCE, plus 20% CO-PAY on most expenses ... yeah, I'm "entitled" to re-imbursment just as much as my auto insurance or house insurance "entitles" me to payment of damages.

Stop calling Medicare 'free medical care' or 'entitlement' and call it MEDICAL INSURANCE - because that is what it is.

Same thing for Social Security -- it is NOT an 'entitlement' -- we pay into it, employers pay into it, and when we collect we are collecting on our 'retirement insurance' -- yeah, we are 'entitled' to collect the payments, but it sure hasn't been a free gift from the government.

Aug. 13 2012 10:53 AM
profwilliams from Montclair

Re: Social Security Death Benefits, the Times article this morning says, yes. He did. And it details this supposed "hypocrisy."

Aug. 13 2012 10:52 AM
Bobby G from East Village

Individualism verses collectivism is a 1950's argument from a time when the U.S. faced an existential threat, the Soviet Union. Paul Ryan in his definition of America ignores the Preamble of the Constitution that states as its purpose to, "promote the general Welfare" of the people.

Aug. 13 2012 10:49 AM

There are no true Randians...No pure 'power of the free market'-types. We all want the government to move heaven and earth to avoid a deflation...A significant deflation re-orders wages as well as prices.

Three-fourths of the deficit is caused by the lackluster recovery. If Congress would get serious and put us a firm road to recovery, most of the deficit problem would be solved. If your priority is to cut the budget, then the recession is over for you. If your priority is to lower unemployment, the recession is still happening.

Aug. 13 2012 10:45 AM
Joan from Brooklyn

The description of the Ryan family's place in the upper class of small town America puts me in mind of Sinclair Lewis' Babbitt. Small town, small mind, small ideas. By the way, Ayn Rand didn't seem to have any objection to becoming a Medicare beneficiary and using the benefits.

Aug. 13 2012 10:45 AM

But Ryan has used both Rand and the catholic church to define himself. Sheesh.

Aug. 13 2012 10:45 AM
Nick from UWS

And who was the other upper level figure pickled in Ayn Rand? Alan Greenspan. And look what happened there. Are you friggin' kidding me?

Aug. 13 2012 10:43 AM
Michael from Manhattan

One piece in Politico (by Jake Sherman & John Bresnahan) told me all I need to know about Ryan:
"Ryan had a keen sense of how his status had changed when he won his first election to the House in 1998. A reporter he knew from his days as an aide approached him to wish him well.
“Congratulations, Paul,” said the reporter, who was several years older than Ryan. “It’s Mr. Ryan, now,” he replied.

....that gem and the fact that he started collecting Social Security when his dad died young... money he used to pay for his own college education. Now? He got his, now he's ready to pull up the ladder on the less fortunate. Typical Republican behavior. And let's talk about how Ayn Rand collected Social Security and Medicare checks herself.

Aug. 13 2012 10:41 AM
Sleater from New Jersey

Is Ryan Lizza going to mention or does he just not know that Paul Ryan received Social Security benefits after his father died, from age 16-18, which also allowed him to attend college? He attended public schools, a public university, has worked his entire life in the government except for a short stint with the family-related firm, and has benefited handsomely from the government. Yet he wants to destroy it and the safety net, which helped him. This goes beyond hypocrisy....

Aug. 13 2012 10:40 AM

hey the guest actually mention Ron Paul by name! amazing...

Aug. 13 2012 10:40 AM
SJM from Bronx

When his father died did his family take social security survival benefits? Did that color his attitude?

Aug. 13 2012 10:40 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Ayn Rand, is a mediocre writer, I wouldn't even call her a philosopher. She is a reactionary because of her traumatic childhood in Stalinist Russia, I feel bad for her but her works are simplistic and poor.

Aug. 13 2012 10:40 AM

who gets FREE healthcare? either paid into a system or taking someone else's money...insane!

Aug. 13 2012 10:39 AM
jeremy eagle

I'm sick of Brian Lehrer's closet conservatism. Here it is again...a soft ball thrown to the right wingers and no real left point of view. I'm no longer going to support WNYC.

Aug. 13 2012 10:38 AM
profwilliams from Montclair

Funny, the NY Times' long profile on Ryan this morning was much more fair and less biased than your guest here.

Your guest makes Ryan seem like a rich kid. But he worked at McDonald's-- huh? A rich kid, living in the "ritzy" part of town flips burgers?

This contradiction shows your guest's bias. The Times though, seems to give a very clear picture of who Ryan is (whether you like him or not).

Aug. 13 2012 10:36 AM
Nick from UWS

What's the connection Brian? Death frightened him so much that he decided to try to turn himself into a superman in order to ward it off. Seems obvious to me. It's rooted in fear of death.

Aug. 13 2012 10:36 AM
quasimodo3000 from New York City

Ryan Lizza's New York Mag profile of Paul Ryan was totally unacceptable, i.e. BAD. It was like treating the devil as a hardworking guy notable for his unusual attire. Instead, the profile should have begun by outlining Ryan's insane budget proposals, taken them apart to show their deleterious effect, and ended with the obvious conclusion that Ryan and the Republicans are a disaster for America. Jeez.

Aug. 13 2012 10:35 AM
John from Yonkers

Romney said America is an "idea" and that America is the only country founded on an "idea". Actually, I just began reading Ian Kershaw's book about Hitler, and a tenet of the Nazi party was that they promoted an idea, theirs being the nation or the people, "Volk". Now I would not compare the Republican Party to the Nazi party, mainly because, thank God, we do not have the same cavalier attitude toward violence for the achievement of political ends, nonetheless anytime an "idea" can blind us to the needs of people I think it is contrary to the values of our nation.

Aug. 13 2012 10:35 AM
Bill from New Rochelle

Mr Lizza,

When Mr Ryan's father died, did the Ryan family collect extra Social Security 'surviver benefit'?

What did Ryan's mother do with it?

Didn't Ryan also get checks, as a child of a deceased worker?

Aug. 13 2012 10:33 AM
Robert from NYC

This is objective? This interview with the NR guy sounds like a Q/A spot from the Romney site - Brian is the Q and then comes the propaganda answer.

Yes, you quote Krugman, Brian, but you have no real follow up to the specious answers provided by your guest - "to grow the economy in a healthy way" == "no tax increase in the rich" for instance.

You allowed your guest to make an advertisement for Ryan. That's a shame and not informative.

I contribute to public radio when I can but this kind of stuff keeps me from helping WNYC. I expect better - we can get the generic talking head stuff on, say, NBC. Again, this is the generic stuff I'd expect from Candy Crowley.

Aug. 13 2012 10:33 AM
fuva from harlemworld

CONSPIRACY THEORY: Is Mitt drawing so stark a line in the sand -- by defining so exclusive, pro-1% and pro-opportunity-inequality a platform -- to turn people off in droves and thereby throw the election, leaving Obama and the Dems holding the coming economic catastrophe and setting up the Repubs for 2016?...

Or is this yet another example of cognitive dissonance in response to the Obama presidency?

Or do they simply think that Americans are base and ignant enough to support such a platform -- that promotes the same policies under which the economy imploded and income-inequality exploded, without saying what they'd do differently? (Maybe they KNOW Americans are that ignant.)

...Does Reihan attend Republican events? If so, how does he feel sticking out like a dumb sore thumb? How does he feel that no one there AT ALL feels the need to address this? What credibility do such self-defeating people really have?

Aug. 13 2012 10:32 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Paul Ryan - a career politician, voted for 2 UNPAID wars and the UNFUNDED MANDATE, medicaid part D during the Bush years - Billions in deficit spending.

But this time he's going be different, this time he's really, really gonna be a fiscal conservative, this time.

Aug. 13 2012 10:32 AM

IF Mr. Romney's choice for vice president is an indication of how he would lead, it's thumbs up for Republicans and go pound sand for the rest of us.

He's choosing to attract more Right-wing voters and giving the Center the finger. That is not a strong electoral strategy. Romney knows his campaign is toast and wants enough TP-types to show up so they can keep the House. Let's plan to go vote and deny it to them.

Aug. 13 2012 10:30 AM
CK from YKT

but Larry, and the rest of the Obama supporters: in three and a half years, how is it that the deficit has shot up, we're still in wars and Abu Grabe is still open? What's Obama done to fix it?

Time for a change.

Aug. 13 2012 10:29 AM
Amy from Manhattan

OK, Brian, did you guys do this on purpose? Reihan & Ryan on Ryan?

Aug. 13 2012 10:29 AM
JT from LI

@Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan
These quotes only show that Ryan knows how to write a few applause lines. Regarding 4 years of failed leadership, we have the RNC to thank for that. Your guy Mitch McConnell did say that the republican's only focus was to make sure Obama was a one term president. Not fix the economy, jobs, or anything else. Another mission accomplished.

Aug. 13 2012 10:29 AM

What happened in Ireland, was that it followed laissex-faire fanaticism. Ireland was a favorite country of Cato institute types.

Aug. 13 2012 10:27 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

IN reality, what we have is "deficit versus productivity" problem. We cannot merely tax our way out of deficits and this growing national debt. We have to reduce the standard of living of the "middle class" back to where it once was, while producing more and better educated children capable of joining the work force with the requisite schools and producing.

This is not merely an economic problem, but a socieoeconomic problem. To many people retiring and becoming unproductive - as well as drawing on the treasury, with too few young being produced and properly educated to replace them.

Aug. 13 2012 10:27 AM

WNYC is part of the problem

Aug. 13 2012 10:26 AM

@CK from Yorkotwn-

The POTUS is driving this UPHILL....since Bush crashed & burned our economy into a ditch.

Didn't you get the memo??

Aug. 13 2012 10:25 AM
Bill from New Rochelle

Mr. Salam,

How is the Romney/Ryan 'plan' nor malignant neglect of ther sick and old?

Aug. 13 2012 10:25 AM
Larry from Brooklyn

Where was all this concern about the deficit when republicans put 2 wars on a credit card? I sense there is only concern about it when it is increasing under an opposite-party president is in office. War is OK to spend money on but health care is not? Geez.

Aug. 13 2012 10:25 AM
Amy from Manhattan

Oh, so if the Ryan plan didn't work for poor people they'd change it. Meanwhile, how many poor people would be hurt by it? Just like, if all the foreclosures were allowed to go forward till it all bottomed out, as Mitt Romney recommends, how many people would lose their homes?

Aug. 13 2012 10:25 AM
BK from NJ

Re taxes: the guest is dead wrong. The mortgage deduction and other deductions as a percent of income dont do much for the wealthy. Two reasons: the upper middle class and even the barely 1 percenters like my family get hit by the AMT and therefore deductions do nothing more me. I am grateful for t success and don't mind paying my share. The deductions for the ultra rich (think Romney) don't matter because anything they lose on deductions is so far outstripped by the lower rates they pay. Lastly, the upper 1 percenters like Romney shelter their money, use shell corporations etc so that they pay only 15% or less on their income. So the tax changed would absolutely hurt middle class and benefit the wealthy.

Aug. 13 2012 10:24 AM
Nick from UWS

Ryan's announcement that he derived his inspiration to enter public life from Ayn Rand tells you all you need to know about him. Namely: it's all about him, survival of the fittest is the prime directive, and anyone in need can go directly to hell. Yeah, that's really who we need at the helm of this country. Jesus what a creep.

Aug. 13 2012 10:24 AM
Joe from nearby

When will Mitt-- and now Ryan-- release the last 10 years of complete tax returns, like the President did?

Oh right, last they they both told 60 Mins we can all take a hike on that.

How does your guest feel about Ryan buying Goldman stocks on insider info after the crash???

Aug. 13 2012 10:23 AM
CK from Yorkotwn

So we're going to take Krugman's input as the last word? I'm with your guest: we have to do something, so why not look at the realist parts of the Ryan plan? What's Obama doing about it? He's going to keep things going downhill as he has for the last 3.5 years.

Aug. 13 2012 10:23 AM

An additional benefit to picking Ryan, is that Obama and the Democratic Party's cowardice and obsession with always moving toward the "center", will be dragged further rightward.

Maybe not during the election, when Obama will mouth his usual disingenuous platitiudes, but starting with Inauguration Day.

Aug. 13 2012 10:23 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

More CONGRESSMAN RYAN on Barry Obama -


Aug. 13 2012 10:19 AM
Larry A

Why does Reihan Salam sound like he's a cheer leader for Ryan's plan? He's practically gushing over it!

Not exactly an objective viewpoint.

Aug. 13 2012 10:19 AM
John from NYC

What is the "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic" stuff???

We have a:
$2 trillion federal deficit (counting off budget stuff)
$16 trillion debt
$100 trillion unfunded obligations


Aug. 13 2012 10:19 AM

It's a brilliant pick for the future Republican Party. Romney is toast and no vice-president can help him, but the Ryan budget is now set as the one the Republicans will be pushing for the next 20 years.

Ryan is a friendly face pushing cruel and destructive policies. It worked with Reagan. Ryan even has carefully pomaded his hair in signature Reagan style as a clear signal to the Reagan Democrats who can be convinced to vote against their own interests by affect alone.

Aug. 13 2012 10:19 AM

Wait a minute, wait a minute, ryan changed his plan after he realized it was a complete disaster? Tell us a again how that qualifies him for us to vote for him?!

Aug. 13 2012 10:18 AM
Bob from Westchester, NY

Practical question: Under Wisconsin law, can Congressman Ryan run for re-election to his House seat as well as for vice-President, or will he have to give up that race? I believe NY law only allows one ballot place per candidate.

Aug. 13 2012 10:17 AM
JT from LI

@gary from queens
You would probably have preferred, "Is Ryan too perfect?" or "Isn't Ryan adorable?"

a : very different from the usual or traditional : extreme
b : favoring extreme changes in existing views, habits, conditions, or institutions
c : associated with political views, practices, and policies of extreme change

Aug. 13 2012 10:17 AM

a guy from the National Review supports Ryan's plan, really.....

Why would Ryan care if he guts Medicare for the rest of us. HE HAS GOVERNMENT HEALTHCARE FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE THAT WE PAY FOR.

Aug. 13 2012 10:17 AM
Jessie Henshaw from way uptown

Ryan focuses on what he see as an irreversible debt crisis, that has to be dealt with before it breaks us. That may be, but his solitary focus on that particular one, when that is just one of many global calamities to deal with..., clearly shows he and the rest of the political debates are deeply confused.

His solution doesn't even include his self-interest, nor does it seem anyone else's does either.

Here's data demonstrating it.

Aug. 13 2012 10:15 AM
Joe from nearby

Hey Paul Ryan- "I'll give you my Medicare when you pry it from my cold, dead hands!"

Aug. 13 2012 10:15 AM
Rich P from Long Island

The Paul Ryan selection ensures that Romney voters will vote for Romney...I'm not sure how this strategy works for garnering support from the middle.

Aug. 13 2012 10:15 AM
Tom Pinch

It's the Ryan-Romney Budget. And the Ryan-Romney Bus Tour. Maybe Mitt introducing, "The next president of the US..." was Freudian slip.

People like Ryan bailing on the Boyles-Simpson commission is why Obama had to back off it.

Aug. 13 2012 10:15 AM
Glork from Glen Ridge, NJ

Obama and Biden sure will be far, far closer to "the common man" of America pretty soon since they will be joining the unemployment lines.

Aug. 13 2012 10:14 AM
Larry from Brooklyn

NPR and others are reporting that Ryan bought Goldman Sachs stock (and may have done other trades) after learning about the TARP plan (which he voted for). Ryan's recent press release says he thinks that this sort of "insider trading" is wrong and he supports the STOCK law that bans it. This needs to be investigated more thoroughly.

Aug. 13 2012 10:14 AM

Romney/Ryan...Obama/ real cuts, no ending wars, no repealing Patriot ACt, no stopping drone sppying, no stopping assisiantion of Americans....
we have a chance with Ron Paul.

Aug. 13 2012 10:13 AM
Bill from New Rochelle

This is personal.

I do not want to be put upon an iceflow to die when I am old.
That is Romney/Ryan's plan.

Ryan says he is opposed to abortion.
That is not "conservative, and certainly not Libertarian; it is theocratic.

They can both go suck eggs, like all snakes.

Aug. 13 2012 10:12 AM
JT from LI

@john from office
Ryan stopped praising Rand a bit when he found out she was an atheist. He had to to keep the base happy.

Aug. 13 2012 10:12 AM
amalgam from NYC by day, NJ by night

I love the injection of Ryan to create this national debate! We shall see if people in the U.S. are ready to go back to a pre-New Deal America in both its style and in substance, with his politics (and political economy) in a trickle-down, Neoliberal, libertarian, market fundamentalist way. As was mentioned at the top, his ideology vis-a-vis the Ryan Budget has been found extreme, inhumane and anti-Catholic by the Republican and rightwing-leaning US Catholic Bishops of Bishops.

US bishops: Ryan budget fails to meet ‘basic moral test’

This is going to be great!

Aug. 13 2012 10:11 AM

Paul Ryan is one of the biggest Hypocrites in the country.
Paul Ryan, the GOP’s most outspoken advocate for cutting and privatizing Social Security, has already benefited from Social Security himself, in the form of survivor benefits he received after his father’s untimely death.
From the age of 16, when his 55-year-old father died of a heart attack, until he was 18, Ryan received Social Security payments, which, according to a lengthy profile in WI Magazine, he put away for college.
Ryan’s congressional ascent, all the way to the top spot on the Budget Committee, began with his Social Security-funded college education.
Our President's famous speech is again proven right. " You didn't build that".

Aug. 13 2012 10:10 AM
gary from queens


Typical approach by a liberal journalist on NPR supported WNYC.

Hey Brian, is this how you introduced the Joe Biden as Obama's pick?

Like, "Is Joe Biden too radical?"

YES, he was and is. But you guys control the agenda by the questions you ask.

Aug. 13 2012 10:10 AM
joe from nearby

Romney/Ryan/Rove GOP-Tea Plan to “Save” Our Country:
1. Outsource Social Security to Wall Street.
2. Outsource Medicare to for-profit insurance.
3. Increase military spending.
4. More tax breaks for the wealthy and corporations.
5. Destroy home owners’ mortgage deduction.
6. Rail against government, while enriching themselves off of it.
7. Proclaim they are the real Christians and impose their values on the Country.
8. Proclaim they are the real Americans.
9. Continue to fight anything that has to do with a woman's reproductive rights.

Aug. 13 2012 10:09 AM
JT from LI

Yet again Romney switches his position on issues to get votes. Eliminating capital gains tax was a bad idea when Gingrich's mentioned it during the RNC debates. Now that it's a part of Ryan's proposal he seems to endorse it. It's a win-win for Romney. It will help him get votes and he'll pay almost no taxes from now on since almost all of his income is capital gains.

Aug. 13 2012 10:08 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

More CONGRESSMAN RYAN on Barry Obama-

"He cares more about the next election than the next generation."

Aug. 13 2012 10:04 AM
john from office

Problem is that people take things out of context or in sound bites. Or, take a poorly worded phrase and run with it. It is not the way to build a great nation.

There is a rumor that the UN will be passing a law in the US to control guns, It is on the internet and has been refered to by politians. Sad part is, it is not true, but people are quoting the internet ad about it.

Time for adults to run and rule.

Aug. 13 2012 10:03 AM

Ryan is anything BUT a Randian....

Aug. 13 2012 10:02 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

CONGRESSMAN RYAN on Barry Obama's hidden animosity toward business and success-

"If you have a small business, YOU DID BUILD THAT !!!!"

Aug. 13 2012 09:45 AM
john from office

Mitt = Bush2, spoiled frat boy. Hey lets chase around the gay kid with orange hair and cut off his hair, for sport!!. Hijinks at the country club.

Julio, I need another drink!!

Aug. 13 2012 09:16 AM
Marvin Chuckletwit from Merry Olde England

This VP pick is a non-issue for undecided voters. Romney's choices throughout his campaign so far just demonstrate the degree to which the GOP is seriously fragmented and rudderless.

The GOP holds Romney up as best Presidential candidate choice for 2012. And look at his performance so far -- quite a bit less than stellar. Now Romney & Co. pick Ryan in an effort to mollify the disgruntled farther right inside the GOP and win the conservative/Tea Party/libertarian vote. Still doesn't solve the ideological rift, however. Doesn't eliminate the tepid response to him from leaders in his own party.

The more interesting question is, What happens to the GOP after 2012 if the Romney/Ryan ticket loses in November?

Aug. 13 2012 09:12 AM
john from office

Martin, did you forget the 8 years of Bush, two wars, the housing crash??. I know that in your world the 3 years of Obama caused all of that, but Ryan will be the Palin of 2012.

Check out his investments on Goldman, profiting from our misery.

Aug. 13 2012 08:47 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

CONGRESSMAN RYAN on the metamorphosis (er, miniaturization) of Barry Obama-


Aug. 13 2012 08:24 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

LOL.........RYAN versus OBAMA .......... this was the most recent "contact" between them before Ryan's nomination Saturday. It exists only in the pages of the Wall Street Journal. (WSJ 7-28-12)

"Rep. Paul Ryan, the House Budget Committee chairman and the GOP point man on budgetary and other economic issues, said Friday that he has not spoken to President Obama in more than a year. Ryan is probably the most important man in Congress for Obama to do business with if he wants to reduce the deficit and find an agreement that would avert the year-end “fiscal cliff.”
During the past year Obama has seen fit to meet with Paul McCartney and Mick Jagger, but not Ryan. You could add to the list a host of other celebrities and athletes, including Sarah Jessica Parker, Jessica Alba, Barbara Streisand, Charles Barkley, Chris Rock, Jay-Z and Tom Hanks…..... and George Clooney, which whom he’s had multiple sessions."

This is unfair to Jay-Z ....... he actually knows a lot more about entrepreneurship than Barry Obama does.

Aug. 13 2012 08:16 AM
antonio from baySide

Isn't picking Ryan like Obama picking Gov. Howard Dean or Rep Dennis Kucinich?
(no wait, I am wrong cause that would be good for the 99%, which was the opposite of what the Romney camp did...)

I was really surprised by this move, is Romney that concered
the Republican base isn't going to come out?
This feels like 2008 except the media will not need to do any work in regards to showing what Ryan is all about....

Aug. 13 2012 08:11 AM
John from office

Hummm, a 41 year old male, hardline catholic, who is vain and likes to work out!!!

I am waiting for the other shoe to drop!! Was he father Obrian's favorite??

Aug. 13 2012 07:41 AM
john from office

I support Mr. Obama and plan to vote for him again. Mr Ryan was a poor choice, showing the death grip the tea party has on the GOP, a party I belong to. With Mr. Ryan the GOP loses the AARP crowd, Minorities, Hispanics, and any major city with a sizable population.

Atlas Shrugged was a novel, not a blueprint. Ann Rand was a writer, not a god.

This was a poor choice.

Aug. 13 2012 07:18 AM
Magreve from Red Hook, Brooklyn, NY

Alas, I can never listen to Brian in morning, while I am working.

I am curious why no one has mentioned / denied Ryan's relationship (or lack of it) with the construction-family empire Ryans, of the midwest, I think Wisconsin. "Ryan Homes" built at least some of southern Pittsburgh,PA, suburbs, where I am from. So I know they've spread across the midwest. I think there are other political pies in which the family has plunked its 1% spoon.

The political-industrial complex does not need a 1% team, IMCO.

Obama-Biden are far, far closer to "the common man" of America.

Aug. 13 2012 07:14 AM

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