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David Sanger on Global Politics

Monday, July 30, 2012

U.S. Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney delivers a speech outside the Old City on July 29, 2012 in Jerusalem, Israel (Uriel Sunai/Getty)

David Sanger, chief Washington correspondent for the New York Times, WNYC contributor, and author of Confront and Conceal: Obama's Secret Wars and Surprising Use of American Power, talks about global politics and Mitt Romney's trip abroad.

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Comments [25]

Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

To April brutally occupying Native American land called Manhattan,

Please explain why Arab children are brainwashed to declare that Jews are sons of pigs and apes/dogs?

Some examples:

Arabs brainwashed little girls to hate Jews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL0C2QvqIlo&list=PL6644A687FC212F81&feature=plcp

"Kill The Jews!" Muslim Children Memorize and Recite Antisemitic Messages on Egyptian TV Channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtt8V25lGmc&feature=related

Brainwashing Palestinian Children
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT6iKFQDEP4&feature=related

Jul. 30 2012 12:25 PM
Gary from queens

April, your ignorance is astounding.

Experts has estimated that Israeli technology in military defense and medicine alone has saved thousands of american lives and has meant billions of dollars in benefits to us.

We need Israel to be our priority trading partner. Not the other way around

Jul. 30 2012 11:19 AM
Pete

Romney will say - and think - exactly what Sheldon pays him to.

Jul. 30 2012 10:57 AM
April from Manhattan

Israel's superiority that MItt supported feeds into the Chosen People idea that has been so damaging to Jews over the centuries. In Fiddler on the Roof, the main character pleads to God, before a pogrom, "Couldn't you choose someone else for a while?" Israel MUST exist because of anti semitism world wide. Bur they delegitimize themselves (and U.S.) by the way they treat Palestinians and the settlers never ending land grabs, neither mentioned by Brian. AIPAC, The America Israel Pubic Affairs Committee?, a PAC, is too powerful as the second strongest lobby after the NRA. They buy congress. Why we support Israel no matter what. Again, not good for them or us. If it weren't for AIPAC there might be peace by now. How is Israel a great ally? What do they do for U.S.? How much economic aid do we give them? They should be giving U.S. aid. And the military aid we give them, is that the same they sold to Turkey, when they and Turkey were speaking. They have cut down Palestinians' olive trees, stopped the flow of the Jordan River into Gaza. How is Palestine supposed to survive, much less prosper? I hope Brian, who turns ever more right, would have some Israeli leftists on his show. Or Ethan Bronner of the Times to describe the night he spent in a Palestinian home in Gaza on Ramadan, Palestinian territory, when the IDF came in, went through the house checking everything, and when the man of the house grew angry and threw a stone, the IDF shot, (but didn't, I believe), kill him. Brian might be surprised to learn that many Americans consider Israel a foreign country. The best thing we could do for them and for us would be to cut aid symbolically to draw a line in the sand that they may continue to expand settlements indefinitely, angering not only Palestinians but the rest of the world, including European nations. Dangerous and immoral policies for what was once a promising nation. Though I should have taken seriously the young Israeli man I met in The Experiment in International Living, who said "Arabs are animals." Oddly reminiscent of what Hitler called Jews.

Jul. 30 2012 10:54 AM
Jeff Park Slope

Excuses, especially faulty ones don't help anyone.
Even the UN, which is dominated by Arab supporters finds that Arab culture has serious problems. First reported in 2002 and followed up this year.
http://www.nature.com/nmiddleeast/2011/110302/full/nmiddleeast.2011.26.html

Jul. 30 2012 10:40 AM
adrienne from UWS

Brian, I am a devoted Jew and love Israel.wondering if you understand that East Jerusalem is where the entire old city is, when the Palestinians had it, pre 1967, Jews weren't allowed into even the Jewish quarter, there was a toilet infront of the Wailing wail (the Kotel) don't be so idealist about Palistinians having east Jerusalem as their capital. The Arab world is Oil rich and opress their people, what concretely have they ever really done for palestinains other than use them as pawns and give their leaders lots of money that they have often squandered. Israel has a lot of problems economically like many western countries the middle class has all but disappered, But it is a fact that Jewish culture is rich with art, poetry, science (some of which has been shared with Palestinans)music, film and more.We are not just big givers to (YUK) Romney. I pray for peace in the region and for a creative, productive Palastian state.

Jul. 30 2012 10:34 AM
carl from queens, n.y.

mccain says the syrian rebels are not in a fair fight, and rightfully so... i don't recall him saying the gaza pals.were not in a fair fight, when over 1400 pals. were getting murdered like fish in a barrel along with 100,000 chickens.... romney goes to israel for the 4th time, but can't find a couple of half hours to spend with abbas next door.... all we americans [including romney] say ''israel has a right to defend themselves''... don't that hold true for all nations?... our trouble is, we only see what others do to us, we never see what we do to others...if we are to have peace, we gotta be fair minded and look at all sides of conflicks...

Jul. 30 2012 10:33 AM
scott from soho

Great Romney coverage. What did Obama do this weekend?

Jul. 30 2012 10:33 AM
gary from queens

Culture is part of the problem is Muslim nations. Women are not permitted to drive a car in Saudi Arabia. Economists have noted that as one issue holding them back.

But worse, the entire mideast, what Thomas PM Barnett calls the Gap, doesnt have nearly the GNP of Singapore. Islamic nations are socialist and deny innovation and freedom of expression and ideas. everything must be vetted by Quoranic scholars first.

Jul. 30 2012 10:31 AM
amalgam from NYC by day, NJ by night

The substance of Romney's numerous remarks/comments aside, Romney continually proves that he is undisciplined rhetorically and in presentation (amazingly), proving that he is not ready for prime time.

Jul. 30 2012 10:27 AM
fuva from harlemworld

Romney is too absolutely ignorant of the realities of other demographic populations to lead so diverse a nation/ world.

Jul. 30 2012 10:27 AM
wendy

Romney's pandering comment was a not-so-subtle way to say "Jews are good with money," which struck me before I thought of the Palestinian reaction. I imagine it depends on your perspective - it's an equal opportunity gaff.

Jul. 30 2012 10:26 AM
fuva from harlemworld

As if "culture" exists in a vacuum, unaffected by history, resources, etc. Such comments -- like Moynihan's -- are analytically superficial and ignant and probably white/ western supremacist.

Jul. 30 2012 10:25 AM
gary from queens

What Mitt is talking about is NOT economic culture, altho Islam forbids usery (charging interest). He was referring to the Quoranic commandment to exclude all non-Muslim dominant governments from the middle east.

This rejectionist culture, which involves ugly incitement and anti semitism taught in Palestinian schools, is what Romney was talking about.

And the reason it's NEWS in the liberal media is because modern liberalism teaches that all cultures are of equal worth. It's a subset of multiculturalism and identity politics----in which people's worth are measured by their ethnic origins. Contrary to ML King's preference for one's individual character.

And we happen to be confronted with an existential enemy, because the enemy's values are:

(a) inseparably linked to its religion and culture (as opposed to conventional state interests)

(b) and said values are totally in conflict with our ideals and culture.

Jul. 30 2012 10:24 AM

I think mitt meant greco-roman culture which israel is part of

Jul. 30 2012 10:24 AM
cynthia from Office - NYC

Hardly a level playing field for the Palestinians - could "closed" borders have something to do with it. Why even go there.

Jul. 30 2012 10:23 AM
Station44025 from Brooklyn

I think the "cultural inferiority" criticism of groups for doing XY or Z is usually a lazy way of overlooking hidden economic reasons for their behavior.

Jul. 30 2012 10:23 AM
Amy from Manhattan

What's interesting about Mitt Romney's remarks is that he seems to ignore the effect of people's circumstances on their ability to do well financially both in Israel & Palestine & in the US.

Jul. 30 2012 10:23 AM
Bob from Pelham NY

Romney's remarks about Palestinians not being successful because of their culture reflect the same attitude the British used to take toward the Irish. Will that upstanding Irish-American Bill O'Reilly rebuke him for this?

Jul. 30 2012 10:23 AM
wendy

Does anyone find Romney's pandering comment regarding the Jews' "cultural" background offensive? Seems he was trying to say "Jews are good with money." That was my initial thought when I heard he'd made another potentially troublesome comment - of course it is offensive to Palestinian too, an equal opportunity gaff.

Jul. 30 2012 10:23 AM
Mike In Brklyn from Brooklyn

Mitt's comment comparing the prosperity of Israel to the Palestinian territory might be either intentional ignorance or true ignorance. Clearly he must understand that the potential of Palestinians is dramatically suppressed by Israel's occupation of the Palestinian territory.

Jul. 30 2012 10:22 AM
Elaine from Baltimore

Rommney is not doing anything different than past presidential campaigns.
During the 1992 Presidential campaign, Bill Clinton said: "I recognize Jerusalem as an undivided city, the eternal capital of Israel, and I believe in the principle of moving our embassy to Jerusalem." And I believe Obama also visited Israel when he was a candidate.

Jul. 30 2012 10:21 AM
jawbone

Uh, there's been reporting in the foreign press that Salafists and jihadis, and arms, have been floiwng into Syira from Turkey (near the US base) for many, many months. Money has been flowing from Saudia and the Gulf State emirates. Money and arms have been flowing from the US to Saudia and the Gulf states, which then flows to "rebels," jihadists, etc., across other borders.

Where have our intelligence folks been? Fitting the facts to a desired Narrative?

More to the point, where have the reporters from our vaunted free press been? Seems to me they've been very busy echoing the government's line. Porpaganda 101. Following the "Narrative"?

Watching the US and some other Western media push for taking out Assad has been so similar to the run up to the Iraq invasion that's it's absolutely terrifying.

Do we learn nothing? Do we as citizens just tune out, knowing we're being played? Also, do we as citizens realize our objections will not be listened to by the Powers That Be?

Jul. 30 2012 10:21 AM
john from office

Martin did you miss the "jews are good with money" comment from your boy Willard.

Jul. 30 2012 09:27 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

“Romney Backs Israeli Stance on Atomic Iran”
“Panetta Sidesteps Issue of Israel’s Plans on Iran”
(Both NYT story headlines today. 7/30/2012)

LOL, even the New York Times spinmeisters can't disguise Barry's listless, lackluster, lead-from-behind "leadership" on Iran.

Jul. 30 2012 08:42 AM

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