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Romney in Israel

Friday, July 27, 2012

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Mitt Romney is in the midst of a week-long trip to Europe and the Middle East. Zev Chafets, journalist and author of Rush Limbaugh: An Army of One, talks about the GOP nominee's planned visit to Israel.

Comments [36]

oscar from ny

Its incredible how israel declared war on the us by imploding their power over us...they will fail because satan does not take sides, and now neither god.

Jul. 29 2012 02:57 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Jon Pope from Ridge, NY

>I guess you'll have to ask them...

I am asking.

>But if you feel so strongly about it, why don't you start marching in the streets and protest against War in Syria? But keep in mind, that would make you an "Anti war protester" the second you raise your anti war sign.....

I note the hypocrisy of "the left", of "progressives", of "anti-war" activists, of the ABSENT A.N.S.W.E.R.

Any idea why the self-righteous "anti-war" usual suspects are not in the streets over genocide in Syria?

Any idea why Russia and China vetoed a U.N. Security Council resolution that would have threatened sanctions against Syria's leadership?

Jul. 27 2012 04:49 PM
Jon Pope from Ridge, NY

Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights,

I guess you'll have to ask them... But if you feel so strongly about it, why don't you start marching in the streets and protest against War in Syria? But keep in mind, that would make you an "Anti war protester" the second you raise your anti war sign.....

Jul. 27 2012 03:51 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Jon Pope from Ridge, NY

> Why would there be any "Anti War" protester's protesting across America for America to get into another war? That makes no sense.

Oh. So the "anti-war" protestors only protest against war when America is connected.

War, deaths of 17,000+ Syrians doesn't count as "war" because that war is backed by Russia - to prop up the Assad family dictatorship?

Ever hear of ANSWER - Act Now to Stop War End Racism?

Is the death of 17,000+ Syrians not a War?

I ask for the third time, where are the "anti-war" activists to protest across from the Syrian consulate? How many people must die in Syria until "anti-war" protestors will get the Green Light from Russia? 20,000? 50,000? 100,000?

Jul. 27 2012 03:38 PM
Jon Pope from Ridge, NY

Why would there be any "Anti War" protester's protesting across America for America to get into another war? That makes no sense. Do you want to go to war? Because diplomacy obviously is not working... I would ask why is not every christian in the world not protesting 24/7 in that any war goes completely against christian values. And you can add a whole host of other religions that should be marching right beside Christians to end all wars.... Yet it seems to me organized religion just fuels the fire of conflicts going on today.

Jul. 27 2012 03:28 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Jon Pope from Ridge, NY,

I ask you again...

Where are the "anti-war" activists protesting across from the Syrian consulate? 17,000+ dead. No end in sight.

Any demonstrations across from the United Nations?

Is it "counter revolutionary" to protest genocide by a Russian puppet?

Jul. 27 2012 02:40 PM
Jon Pope from Ridge, NY

Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights,

You answered your own question. Last time we got involved in a conflict that included Russia and China, we lost 46,000 solders in Vietnam. It's not a conflict anybody should be running to join.

Jul. 27 2012 02:18 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Jon Pope from Ridge, NY

Yes. And the Assad family dictatorship has Russia to run it, and Russian naval ships to back up the dictatorship.

17,000 dead in Syria from the fighting. Where are the "anti-war" activists protesting across from the Syrian consulate? Is it "counter revolutionary" to protest genocide by a Russian puppet?

Jul. 27 2012 01:58 PM
Jon Pope from Ridge, NY

Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights,

Fact: Unlike Libya, Syria has one of the best air defense system in the world. If you want to take them down, its boots on the ground or many, many downed aircraft. So are you ready for another 10 year war? We haven't even begun to pay for the last two. How do you propose to pay for invading Syria?

Jul. 27 2012 01:24 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Any nuke attack on Israel would decimate Mecca and end the Hajj for all time.

It is the "Islamic Republic of Iran" which threatens to wipe Israel off the map.

You can see videos of ahmmadboutjihdad Nuremburg style rallies in his Islamic Republic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FckLO8HcNyo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hLDjGdJC0Q&feature=fvwrel

Meanwhile the FAKE "anti-war" crowd are silent as 17,000+ are killed in Syria by Islamists.

Jul. 27 2012 01:02 PM
Jon Pope from Ridge, NY

garbuz from Queens,

The Cuban missile crises happened when the public thought you could survive a nuclear war.... You probably also practiced hiding under the desk in school to. Completely useless exercise if such event happened... You would have been instantly vaporized if an all out nuke war did happen. Experiments during the Vietnam war proved you cant use nukes in a conventional war... In all due respect, you have absolutely no concept of what 20 nukes would do. It would not only level Iran, it would also level Israel at the same time... Please look at a map and understand the destruction of 20 nukes would go far beyond Iran's border. Israel would become instant glass to. Why would you want to destroy Israel just to destroy Iran's nuke program? Your not making any sense....

Jul. 27 2012 12:41 PM
jgarbuz from Queens

Jon'

So let the US disarm if that's the case. Israel has at least 200 nukes of its own, and using just 10% of them to put out the lights of Iran's nuclear program will not end life on this earth. Nobody is going to save Israel if it doesn't save itself. Israel can't worry about the whole world, if the whole world doesn't care about Israel's survival! It has to take out its much large enemies, and let the world hang. When I was a kid, we almost went to war with Russia to get their missiles and nukes out of Cuba. And Cuba was hardly a threat to the US compared to Iran's threat to Israel. Israel has to defend itself before it is wiped out. It cannot depend on anybody, including the US. Nobody cares about Israel except Jews and a few evangelical Christians. So Israel has to do whatever it has to do to survive.

Jul. 27 2012 12:04 PM
Jon Pope from Ridge, NY

Let me repeat, just one Minuteman III missile has 80.4 times the power of the Hiroshima bomb, not one Hiroshima bomb. If we dropped 80.5 Hiroshima bombs on Japan, Japan would not exist today or a thousand years from now nor would most of Asia.... You make absolutely no sense.

Jul. 27 2012 11:43 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

To Jon Pope

So what if it starts WWIII? I was born in a refugee camp after WWII. Anyhow, stop exaggerating. Hiroshima and Nagasaki are today doing fine. Japan and Germany did just fine after WWII. We forced them to become democratic and they have not sought to wipe anyone else out as a result. If Israel nukes Iran's nuclear program out once and for all, it will become clear that anyone seeking to make illicit nuclear weapons will face the supreme punishment, especially if they are threatening the Jewish state!

It's time to stop playing with these crazy Islamofascists. Thank God that Jews invented the atomic bomb, so that Israel can defend itself against much larger Islamofascist enemies. But it has to use them or lose them.

Jul. 27 2012 11:34 AM
Jon Pope from Ridge, NY

jgarbuz from Queens,

Launch 20 nukes? Are you living in 1950's cold war propaganda? Just one Minuteman III missile has 80.4 times the power of the Hiroshima bomb. Not only would 20 nukes "glass over" Iran, it would completely radiate the middle east, completely shut down all oil production in the middle east which like it or not would shut down the industrail world over night. Food production would stop. There would be havoc all over the world. Your talking about basically starting WWIII. Think before you suggest something so stupid....

Jul. 27 2012 11:26 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

To Mark

If Israel has no right to exist in peace, neither does anyone else. And nobody can do anything to us that hasn't been done already, so Israel has nothing to lose by nuking Iran's nuclear facilities. I'd be honored and would pay Israel to push the button myself personally.

Jul. 27 2012 11:17 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Jg - I respectfully disagree. Even the most right wing Likud member would make that link or argument.

Jul. 27 2012 11:12 AM
Mark

All I know is if Israel instigates nuclear armageddon the handful of survivors left on the smoldering ash heap formerly known as Earth are going to be seriously pissed off.

Jul. 27 2012 11:06 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

To Sheldon

I bet you're wrong, but that won't come out till 50 years later. The settlement issue and Iran ARE VERY MUCH RELATED. If you knew Israeli geography and demographics, more than half of its Jewish population is concentrated in a very tiny area along the beach. If Iran got one or two bombs, that would be enough to wipe Israel out once and for all. However, if Israel dispersed its population INTO and around the Arab areas in the hills of Judah and Samaria, not only would Iran need more bombs, but they would have to kill as many Muslim Arabs as Jews to accomplish wiping Israel "off the pages of history." So there is a VERY DEFINITE LINK that is not discussed in the press. But I have lived in Israel and I know the lay of the land extremely well. I even experienced wearing a gas mask along with my 5 year old son in a sealed room during the Scud attacks in 1991. It's not theoretical to me.

Jul. 27 2012 10:53 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Jg - Iranian nukes and settlements are two separate issues, I doubt Obama was foolish enough to make such "a deal"

Jul. 27 2012 10:42 AM
fuva from harlemworld

Adherence to business regulation should be as least tedious as possible. But it still may be tedious sometimes. But because something is tedious does not mean it's therefore bad and unnecessary.

Jul. 27 2012 10:36 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

To Sheldon

Look, I believe that Obama and Netanyahu came to a verbal agreement: Israel will cease to build settlements (outside of Jerusalem) and agree to a two state solution, provided that Obama succeeds in stopping Iran's nuclear program. That is what I believe happened. So now it's a question if Obama will be able to keep up his end of the bargain, and actually stop Iran's nuclear program. If not, the deal is off and Israel is on its own to do whatever it has to do.

Personally, if Iran gets the bomb, then Israel HAS TO disperse its population into the hills of Judah and Samaria, so that if the Iran drops a nuke, they'd have to kill as many Palestinian Arabs as Jews. That's my take on it.

Jul. 27 2012 10:31 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Jg - I agree, I'm scratching my head on the perception of Obama's lack of support for Israel by many 50+ Jewish Americans.

Even though it was Bibi that disrespectfully called out the President in public, AT THE WHITE HOUSE, something Begin and Meir would have had the decency to do behind closed doors.

Jul. 27 2012 10:24 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

Israel doesn't need the United States. If I were in charge, I would demand Iran open up its nuclear program to Israeli inspectors or I will launch an initial 20 nukes on Qoms and the various suspected nuclear sites.Israel doesn't need the US to do anything whatsoever. OBAMA promised Israel that he WILL stop Iran's nuclear program. If he can't do it,let Israel glass over the Iranian nuclear sites, and be done with it! Israel has knocked out reactors in Iraq and Syria in the past. If the US is too chicken to take on Iran, then Israel has to nuke them if they persist to try to put a gun to Israel's head.

Jul. 27 2012 10:23 AM
Truth & Beauty from Brooklyn

The problem is that many Jews believe that Obama is not pro-Israel and that's why their votes have changed. I know because I am Jewish and I discuss this with my Jewish friends.

The ironic thing is that the right-wing conservative Christian support for Israel is in their own interest, not that of the Jews, so Jews who vote for republicans are actually voting against themselves.

It's a shame that the legacy of Obama's first term is that he's anti-Israel because he's doing himself a great disservice. Only those of us who understand that no presidential election should be decided on just one issue will continue to vote using common sense rather than an emotional perception of one man.

Romney has as much right to go to Israel as anyone else, but he has no right to denigrate or misrepresent President Obama's work, intentions, legislation or administration. He also has to realize that Israelis don't vote in the US election, so while he visits, he might keep his campaign rhetoric to himself.

Jul. 27 2012 10:18 AM
Mike from Tribeca

Given the LDS's bizarre version of history, shouldn't Israel be coming to the America to visit Romney?

Jul. 27 2012 10:17 AM

@John thanks...jsut woke uo (Calif) and not properly coffeed yet

Jul. 27 2012 10:16 AM
Jon from Manhattan

Am I the only one who does not like the way our politicians cow-tow to Israel and AIPAC? Although, I studied at the Bezalel Academy and have family there, I find the way their government is such a large part of our politics sometimes to our detriment a problem.

Jul. 27 2012 10:16 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

I think Obama has given Israel as much if not more military support than any other president before him, and has laid down the harshest sanctions on Iran as has ever been laid down on any country in history, albeit it doesn't appear to be changing Iran's resolute march towards nuclear weapons capability. Crunch time is coming.

Romney is an empty suit - a frat boy- and I doubt he cares any more about Israel than Obama does.

I don't care much about Obama's left wing "progressive" agenda whatsoever. I'm just more supportive because he so far HAS been doing the right thing regarding Israel.

Jul. 27 2012 10:15 AM
BK from Hoboken

Is there a group for whom not just President Obama but any other politician bends over backward? Jews make up 2% of the US population but because of our financial, economic, and military support for Israel it makes it difficult for the US to be seen as an independent moderator of middle east affairs.
It all comes down to campaign donations, another reason why we need publicly funded campaigns and the overturning of Citizens United. The outsize Jewish influence is the same as the NRA, corporate money, super PACs, etc. it's all about the money.

Jul. 27 2012 10:15 AM
Michael from queens

Sure is funny to see a bunch of Old Russian Jews who live on food stamps, medicare and medicaid, section 8 programs that pay for their apartments stand in the voting rooms screaming vote down the line Republican.

As a true republican, I love it, can't wait to take their free ride from them.

Jul. 27 2012 10:13 AM
antonio from baySide

I think it doesn't matter in regards to Florida because of the high concentration of Hispanics, Hatians and young voters..

Jul. 27 2012 10:13 AM
john from office

Joe, he said poll not fool. "it is hard to poll"

Jul. 27 2012 10:13 AM
john from office

I am a jew by marriage and in my heart, but how does 2.1 % of the US population carry so much power. It is amazing. Answer is, they get involved, learn from them!

Look into Mexican politics, lots of Jewish names, it is amazing.

Jul. 27 2012 10:11 AM

Did this guy just say it's hard to fool Jews because there are so few of them...what does that mean.
We should not favor any "group" over another or at the expense of another.

Jul. 27 2012 10:10 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

So Romney is going to Israel, to say whatever he has to, to get the "Jewish Vote." ?

Sometimes, I wonder if we should just make Israel the 51st state already.

Jul. 27 2012 10:09 AM

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