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Anna Sale: On to Ohio

Monday, July 23, 2012

Anna Sale, It's A Free Country politics reporter, continues her tour of the swing states, heading to Ohio from Wisconsin talking to voters about the upcoming election.

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Comments [24]

MartinC -

The ECONOMY was put into a hole by the GOP - securitization of mortgages without proper set asides for non-performing assets - and under-regulation. The ECONOMY has not recovered because the two sectors that bring you out of a recession took the biggest hit, banking and housing construction, and the GOP has blocked any attempt to develop programs that would boost aggregate demand. This is their cynical way of returning to power. "If Obama were a real leader who would have MADE us act like we actually cared." Current GOP members of Congress should count themselves lucky that Obama is President and not me. I wouldd have had many of them arrested (and some of the shot) as treasonous.

Jul. 23 2012 11:09 AM
Guy from Brooklyn

News flash: Americans will vote for the lesser of two evils!!

I can't believe that producers still think we should listed to these lazy "undecided voter" segments which are nothing more than uninformative time-killers. The media's worst creation. Also, they are hurting America!

Allow me to explain: how frustrating every election cycle to hear the media given over to so-called "undecided voters"--aka dopes who can't be bothered to pay attention to politics but are thrilled to get media attention. If you believe these people haven't already chosen their candidate after listening to them, well I have a bridge to sell you. Do we have to honor people whose "positions" consist of being angry their sons could be added to their insurance because they have to pay for it, or people who are concerned that the president is spending too much time advocating for the poor, or people who want to "get ahead" in the middle of a historic recession and blame the government for frustrating this desire?

By giving a platform to people who make one question the extension of the franchise, NPR and other media continue the watering down of the political discourse in this country. Have Ms. Sales actually do some reporting in the swing states, or retire this segment. Or let's investigate how the media creates these buffoons by sticking a mike in their faces or how often they vote for exactly the same party they voted for last time. Enough!

Jul. 23 2012 10:51 AM
jawbone

Re: the nurse from WI.

It speaks ill of our vaunted free press that she has not been able to learn that Obama is a Corporatist who is in office to protect the power and well-being of the financial sector, along with other big corporations. He had opportunities to assist the lower economic groups in our nation, but he chose to work for a health INSURANCE reform bill which is designed by the Heritage Foundation, written by political aides who had cycled back to politics from the for-profit health insurance industry, and will ensure continued profits for those for-profit health insurance entities. Some of these inputs were agreed upon by Obama and his aides prior to his election, some worked out after. But none reflected what the majority of people in this nation wanted: Single payer like Medicare for All.

I don't believe Obama's ever been a Democrat who cared about the poor or even the middle class. He was adopted and promoted by the wealthy and powerful of Chicago and then Wall Street.

I couldn't vote for him because I saw him continually talking about the needs of the majority while actually working for the benefit of the powerful.

That this nurse sees him as looking out for the poor is, well, astonishing -- but not unexpected. BTW, it certainly shows the power of propaganda as put out by business, our Mainstream Corporate Media, and the right wing political groups.

We have two corporatists running for the presidency; neither will do much for the lower 4 economic quintiles.

The nation will not do well under either of these two men and their parties which are two side of the Money Party.

Jul. 23 2012 10:48 AM
jawbone

I've been cringing every time I hear the bit from Obama that the perpetrator of the Aurora movie massacre will fade from memory but the good people killed and surviving will be remembered.

Really, Mr. President? Reeeeaaallly???

I mean, I remember the name of the OK bombing, Tim McVeigh, but cannot recall the name of one single victim of his terror attack. I sure remember Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, but, again, not one name of any of the thousands of victims. Yes, if the person's name and situation is mentioned, I may remember something about him or her...but it's not part of my general knowledge memory.

So, I cringed.

Now, this Holmes guy may not get the notoriety that some terror killers get, but his act will survive in our memories. Right now, we recall the W.Va killings of students, but not the name of the killer, right? How many recall names of the victims or survivors? (To hear one survivor, an activist for greater gun control, watch/listen to today's Democracy Now!)

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/23/aurora_shooting_witness_omar_esparza_describes

Jul. 23 2012 10:33 AM
RL

"you didn't build that" was in reference to the roads and bridges that he was talking about in the sentences prior. Any who tries to say that "build that" was about building a business is just twisting words and very unethical. sad.

Jul. 23 2012 10:30 AM
mercedes from westchester

It may not be "racial code", but please do not be so indignant. I find that there are many people who do not know the whole unemploymnet picture. There ARE people who take advantage of our system and there ARE people who are on unemployment because there is nothing available, or opportunities have been sent overseas, or they are older and, of course, filibusters and blocking ANY legislation presented by a Democrat does not encourage growth in the USA. THEY need to get responsible and govern, which is supposedly why they were elected in the first place. The first statement made by a Republican (paraphrased, was "our primary goal is to get Obama out of the Whitehouse." Grow up kids. If you can't play nice, pick up your ball and go home. This playground is not for you.

Jul. 23 2012 10:28 AM
The Truth from Becky

...and there it is, if you think you are "lower class" now, just let romney get in there...people, even on here are so disillusioned they actually think that the repubs are working for their good such naivete, they would to their own detriment vote for a guy who thinks you/we are ALL beneath him.

Jul. 23 2012 10:27 AM
gary from queens

Obama can no longer be deemed the champion of the lower class. Culturally, Obama might at least have played the Jimmy Carter populist and eschewed the elite world that had so mesmerized Bill Clinton.

Instead, Obama proved a counterfeit populist and became enthralled with the high life of rich friends, celebrities, high-priced fundraisers, and family getaways to Martha’s Vineyard or Costa del Sol. He somehow has set records both in the number of meet-and-greet campaign fundraisers and the number of golf rounds played. As Obama damned the fat cats and corporate jet owners, he courted them in preparation to joining them post-officium.

It simply is unsustainable for a Hawaii prep-schooled president to talk down to black audiences in a fake black patois in warning about “them,” only to put on his polo shirt, shades and golf garb to court “them” on the links.

Jul. 23 2012 10:26 AM
carolita from nyc

Ha, well, Obama's "you didn't build that" doesn't affect me at all, and probably affects very few people. It happens to be how many people who will only ever be employees (most of the world) feel about their bosses. I look at my ex-bosses and I feel like a sucker for working for them, helping them get rich, while they gave me a crappy salary and no benefits. I watched them employ cleaners and other blue-collar workers and delay/forget paying them. Meanwhile, these bosses dined in fancy restaurants and had grand vacations, sent their kids to private schools. No, they didn't build 'that.' They used and abused plenty of people to get where they are.

Jul. 23 2012 10:26 AM

"Getting ahead" versus static subsistence, is a relatively new concept that was introduced with the industrial revolution. For thousands of years, most people didn't "get ahead." They just worked on the land from sunrise just to subsist and survive, not to "get ahead." The world population did not increase from Roman times to 1800. One thousand years of no growth. Then two things suddenly happened: (1) the development of science and machinery in northern Europe; and (2) the "discovery" of the "New World" by Europeans.
Suddenly the idea that even a peasant could possibly get ahead was born, either by going to work in the new "manufactories" that began to emerge, or by leaving to the New World to get their own land. And even possibly slaves to work it.

Jul. 23 2012 10:24 AM
jawbone

Gary from Queens -- Yes, Obama did speak inartfully when he said "you didn't build that," but anyone who's heard the whole segment that's been taken from realizes he means that most people will not do well, not build businesses or much else, if there is no strong society with good infrastructure, education of the young, etc.

BTW, I am not an Obama voter, so I'm not reflexively defending him.

However I hate this use of the "magic ellipses" to take words out of context.

But Obama does not speak well off the cuff, so he'll probably make more of these awkward errors of style and word choice.

(The voter saying Obama is a good speaker defies reality for me!!!)

Jul. 23 2012 10:23 AM
Venka Taule

President Obama has talked about evil in the world---he talked about it in Oslo when he received the Nobel Prize--- his first comments after the Aurora shooting mentioned evil. It's not a conservative nod, he believes it.

Also, I hope Mayor Bloomberg uses his money and bully pulpit to fight the NRA--he could really make a difference. And he certainly understands the politics of gun control in an election year---it's crazy but it's the way it is. Let the Mayor begin the change.

Jul. 23 2012 10:22 AM
Unheard from NYC

When people speak of someone's efforts being supported by those that came before that person, the infrastructure and society they live in they are not denying the power of the individual. They are only recognizing it isn't possible to do alone. That is it. Nobody is saying individual motivation and drive is any less important. YOU DID BUILD THAT, just not in a vacuum.

Jul. 23 2012 10:22 AM
Jim

Right Becky. And their frustration is really "racial code". Your right, they should just sign up for Social Security disability and food stamps. Problem solved.

Jul. 23 2012 10:21 AM
The Truth from Becky

People looking for someone to blame for the economy, look to BUSH, everything the President has spent money on is primarily undo the damange that was done by the previous administration, don't be distracted by the repubs trying to take you back to reagan as if the bush years never occured!

Jul. 23 2012 10:21 AM
gary from queens

Brian is straining hear something racial in Ann Romney's statement. But one well known pundit actually wrote criticism of what he THOUGHT he heard her say----"those people".

But she never used those words. But why should that matter if your agenda is that the Romneys are racist.

Jul. 23 2012 10:20 AM
mike in bklyn from Brooklyn

It is very frustrating to hear clips like that just play, where the interviewee says something so off-base, but is not challenge to justify his/her claim. Is it really true that Obama is only for the lower class?

Jul. 23 2012 10:20 AM
fuva from harlemworld

Wow, this tour of voters is revealing how unaware Americans are. Obama is for the lower class and not the middle class? Really?

Jul. 23 2012 10:19 AM
The Truth from Becky

The President is not responsible for your skill set, if the caller and her husband are working over 60 hours per week and not getting ahead they either A) Have to many bills and liabilities, B) Don't have high paying jobs due to their work skills. I mean really , whose fault is that?

Jul. 23 2012 10:19 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

"RACIAL CODE"......here we go, Brian !!!!....Mr. "All those other white people are racist" New York liberal.

Heaven forbid it might be about the ECONOMY and a FAILED PRESIDENCY.

Unbelievable.

Jul. 23 2012 10:19 AM
Brenda from Brooklyn

oh boy, brian, trying to race bait on this?! ugh.

Jul. 23 2012 10:18 AM
Tom from UWS

I think you WAY over-analyze to say that the president is speaking "conservatively" at this moment. Everything that needs to be said can't and won't be said in the first hours and days.

Jul. 23 2012 10:12 AM
gary from queens

Martin

Obama's "you didn't build that" has been a disaster for him. Because of the embarrassment to Obama, Brian is trying to avoid the issue by not including it as a segment on his program----unlike Romney's bank accounts, tax returns, and whether or not he really had left Bain in 1999.

Indeed, i read in the news that Obama was not using teleprompters during that "you didn't build that" speech. He was glancing left and right to read because they were not set up. Instead, he had notes in his hand which he glanced down to read occassionally.

You can see the real statist, anti private wealth, Obama by some reading some of the parts of that speech. We're back to "share the wealth" off the cuff coments here.

Jul. 23 2012 10:01 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

Ms. Sale -
What's the response (We trust that you have been asking, as a good reporter would.) of business owners in these swing states to Obama's remarks that -

"If you've got a business - YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT. Somebody else made that happen."

Jul. 23 2012 08:49 AM

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