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Thursday, June 28, 2012

General public with tickets to listen to a hearing on the Obamacare line up for entering the U.S. Supreme Court March 27, 2012 in Washington, DC General public with tickets to listen to a hearing on the Obamacare at the U.S. Supreme Court. (Getty)

The Supreme Court’s decision today affirms the constitutionality of Barack Obama's signature health care law and the individual mandate that was at the heart of the case.

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Comments [34]

Roger from on the road

First - The health bill does not state it as a tax. It could have and Roberts says if so it would be constitutional. The congress should have to amend the bill it make it so.

Second - Every tax that I know of has to be paid to a goverment agency. There are non Gov agencys that collect the tax (Sales) for the Gov. How can one buy health insurance and pay it to a private company and have it be a tax? To make it a tax it would have to be bought from the Government, or at least paid for by the Gov.

Jul. 03 2012 11:29 AM
deborah Standard from astoria, ny

Rowney has a very poor memory. He forgets that he created a very good and fair healthcare policy as Governor of Massachusetts. Convenient lack of memory=get more votes.

Jun. 28 2012 01:19 PM
Gary Gerke from google

Everyone exclusive of part lines...do you not see the future without the Constitution?

Jun. 28 2012 12:36 PM
Kressel_H

I'm one of the uninsured in the U.S. What do I do now?

Jun. 28 2012 11:55 AM
arnold schwertman

this law wasn't the best law we ever signed but It beats the hell out of what we had or the republican plan Don't get sick and if you do Die quickly that's not a plan is a disaster looking for a place to happen

Jun. 28 2012 11:45 AM
Gary Shaffer from Brooklyn

Ryan is right that forcing employers to pay for health ins doesn't make sense, which is why other industrialized countries don't do that. They have universal health care - Medicare for all - like Communist Canada, which provides care for all at a much lower cost. And, big secret here: Canadians don't flock to the US for health care. They think we're nuts. However, Ryan is wrong about claiming that Medicare has cost us lots of money. Every study done has shown that Medicare is actually about the most cost effective health care this country provides, the one limitation being the Bush/Cheney provision that prohibited Medicare from bargaining for the cost of prescription drugs (corporate welfare at its finest). So what we really need and what this whole debate ignores is universal health care, which is cheaper and better. It eliminates multiple bureaucracies, no one has ever been denied care for a pre-existing condition, and no one ever goes bankrupt due to the inability to pay medical bills.

Jun. 28 2012 11:41 AM
Jake Maryott from Kansas

@ Mary S. -- Do you know what the Affordable Healthcare Act does? The "small business" would have to have more than 50 full time employees to be affected by AHA.

Jun. 28 2012 11:35 AM
JEFFREY bURK from Virginia

I think there should a nationwide day of mass protest

Jun. 28 2012 11:34 AM
kanageddaamen

@Doug, claiming it was not a tax was entirely political, to try to limit the "The president is raising your taxes!" rhetoric from the right

The administration argued it was a tax in their arguments before the courts

Jun. 28 2012 11:32 AM
zoe from New York

I believe it would be constitutional to require the purchase of broccoli. I don't think they could force you to eat it. Similarly, I they can make you buy health insurance, but can't make you go to the doctor.

Jun. 28 2012 11:28 AM
Dan S from NJ

Headline for the day should be: Blue Cross Blue Shield, Green Money

Jun. 28 2012 11:19 AM
Ryan from Dayton

Anyone who thinks that the affordable care act is going to help the economy, or make health care more expensive knows nothing about economics. Setting asside whether you think the mandate is good or bad (I personally dont think its all bad), the fact is that "Obama-care" is going to increase the cost of healthcare just like Medicare did. As ppl become insured, they will demand more healthcare, and yes, the cost of that will be paid by them and not abandoned to the hospital, but simple supply and demand will show you that as demand rises, so does price. This was proven once before with the passage of medicare/medicaid. That doesnt even take into account the inflationary effects on price of insuance companies insuring unprofitable people (those with preexisting conditions. Obviously they will pass that cost on to the rest of us. And, forcing businesses to pay for insurance for their employees is DEFINITLY not help them. How could it? It will make hiring more expensive, and make wages rise more slowly. So, in short, like the mandate idea or hate it, I don't see how the person below could think it is going to be "great for the economy"

Jun. 28 2012 11:18 AM
bullseye from Chicago, IL

How can the government tax you on money your not spending?

Whats next your not buying Wheaties, pay a tax.

You didn't vote Democrat, pay a tax.

I mean their not FORCING you to vote Democrat just making you pay whether they get elected or not.

Jun. 28 2012 11:17 AM
Dakota from Birmingham, AL

@Michael its the Executive branches job to ENFORCE laws. Its the JUDICIAL branches job interpret the law.

Jun. 28 2012 11:16 AM
al

Where have our reasoning abilities gone?? I think they went out the window along with our constitution!!

Jun. 28 2012 11:13 AM
Doug from Southeast

The orginal intent of Obamacare was for the law NOT to result in being a tax. The Supreme Court has changed the overall intent of the bill by allowing the bill to now become an additional tax. Obama, himself said Obamacare would not be an additional tax. The Supreme Court has altered the original intent of the law and it has become a law that Obama aggressively had said it would not become...an additional tax.

Jun. 28 2012 11:13 AM
Dakota from Birmingham, AL

It is now time for states to call for an Article V convention and make a change to the United States Constitution.

Jun. 28 2012 11:12 AM
sixgees from NJ

How will "Obamacare" increase benefits/coverage of those already on Medicare?

Jun. 28 2012 11:12 AM
Mrs. bob from kansas

My husband had our daughter covered on his blue cross coverage through his work. before she turned 23, she had a pre-existing condition and had to have surgery. then when she turned 23, blue cross said she had to be "rolled over" on her own policy. When we did that, they dropped her for a pre-existing condition! we paid premiums for 23 years on her without collecting a dime of insurance. we paid cash for her check ups. that is just wrong to drop her. so i guess blue cross needs to be regulated. We took a chance paying our premiums and they should have to take the chance we may need it.

Jun. 28 2012 11:12 AM
Bobby G from East Village

Roberts saved himself. He still has a chance for the court during his tenure to be reasonable rather ideological.

Jun. 28 2012 11:09 AM
Laura from nc

This is great! I am soooo happy! This will be good for the economy, good for America and good for our future.

Jun. 28 2012 11:07 AM
Mary S from Ohio

All of the justices who voted to up hold Obama Care should be fired. There should never be a job held for a life time. Obama is nothing but a dictator and the American people better wake up before it's too late. If you are too lazy to work and want the government to take care of you then you deserve what you get. This decision will shut down many small businesses. What a travesty??

Jun. 28 2012 11:05 AM
Docster

I think it's time for all conservative States to plan for secession. Our corrupt government will never change. With a few modifications to our Constitution, like Congress and the President only serving one term in office, we can start over with a New United States of America.

Jun. 28 2012 11:05 AM
NYJ from NYC

@Dan M from NJ
"You know, in NJ if you own a car you are MANDATED to buy driver's insurance, because your car on the road poses a danger to others if it's uninsured. The same applies to health insurance."

No it doesn't. Not even close- driving is a privelege that you choose to apply and be licensed for. Your statement is absurd.

Jun. 28 2012 11:03 AM
Casey from Massachusetts

"I'm all for single payer, but how is my payment to a private health insurance corporation a tax?"

Your payment to an insurance company is not being called a tax. The money you would have to pay the IRS if you choose not to buy health insurance is what the Court is considering a tax.

Jun. 28 2012 11:03 AM
ballinatx

In yo face republicanos!

Jun. 28 2012 11:02 AM
kanageddaamen

@rgw1946: How can you claim that the income tax is unconstitutional when it is expressly allowed by the 16th amendment?

Jun. 28 2012 11:00 AM
Fariborz from New York , NY

I guess instead of "spiking the ball" as Speaker Boehner had warned, the Republicans threw an interception and the other team ran it all the way for a touchdown.

Jun. 28 2012 11:00 AM
chance

WELL I GUESS IT'S TIME FOR CONSERVATIVES TO TAKE THERE MONEY OUT OF THE SYSTEM. I BELIEVE IF 50 MILLION OF US REMOVE OUR MONEY FROM THE BANKS SOMEONE WILL PAY ATTENTION! IT'S TIME FOR A RUN ON THE BANKS! I'M TAKING MINE OUT TODAY.

Jun. 28 2012 11:00 AM
rgw1946 from USA/Indiana

Ummm---legal as a tax...so...this is right up there with the other ILLEAGAL Fed. Income tax..only because our CAREER/LAWYER politicians voted it in as a LAW/TAX...TAX TAX TAX TAX...anyone getting it yet..

Jun. 28 2012 10:57 AM
ranjit

does anyone know the individual justice's vote breakdown ??

Jun. 28 2012 10:54 AM
Dan M from NJ

You know, in NJ if you own a car you are MANDATED to buy driver's insurance, because your car on the road poses a danger to others if it's uninsured. The same applies to health insurance.

Jun. 28 2012 10:52 AM
Jane from Manhattan

I'm all for single payer, but how is my payment to a private health insurance corporation a tax?

Jun. 28 2012 10:51 AM
Steffen Schmidt from New Hampshire

Of course it is a HUGE slap in the face to the GOP candidates. Sucks the oxygen out of their most passionate anti-Obama issue!

Jun. 28 2012 10:48 AM

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