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Supreme Court Health Care Decision Continued

Thursday, June 28, 2012

More coverage of the Supreme Court's decision on the Obama administration's Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare) with Paul Starr, professor of sociology at Princeton University, co-founder of The American Prospect, and a senior health policy advisor under President Bill Clinton. Then Tom Perriello, former Congressman (who voted for the ACA) and President of the Center for American Progress Action Fund, discusses the progressive response to the decision, how Congress goes forward from here, and the impact on the Fall election.

Guests:

Tom Perriello and Paul Starr

Comments [37]

Jack Jackson from Central New Jersey

Mitt Romney's Campaign Speeches - The New Home of the Whopper

Jun. 28 2012 12:21 PM

Mitt wants to "repeal and replace"!

Repeal ObamaCare and replace it with RomneyDon'tCare!

...except about protecting his under 15% tax rate!

Jun. 28 2012 12:11 PM
Edward from NJ

Previously, Romney pointed to the lack of federal authority to impose an individual mandate as the key difference between Obamacare and Romneycare.

So now, what's the difference?

Jun. 28 2012 12:05 PM
The Truth from Becky

Mitt is a liar! Why in the world would you lose the insurance you currently have? Way to create a campaign opportunity!

Jun. 28 2012 12:02 PM
john from office

MITT, MITT, MITT, you had and worked for OBAMACARE in MASS. Did you forget??

Jun. 28 2012 12:02 PM
Jack Jackson from Central New Jersey

Wow...Are people really ignorant about what insurance is and the concept of risk-pooling or what? If you are alive you need health care. If you need health care, you need health insurance. It's as simple as that. If my government included basic health care as part of their deliverables, I'd be okay with that and be willing to pay the additional taxes to get it taken care of.

The growth in uncovered or charity care here in New Jersey is from the number of illegal immigrants which is a result of NAFTA. You want to end the pull of low wage/low education labor into our country, fix NAFTA so that Mexico has an agricultural sector again.

Jun. 28 2012 12:01 PM
Robert from NYC

Mit Romney is wrong, I don't know if he lies, he lies if he knows he's wrong and continues to say that it is the government that would come between you and your doctor. It isn't Medicare that comes between the patient and the Dr, it's the insurance company who do that. They deny very often treatments and medications that the Dr prescribes. It is the health insurance companies that interfere in your rapport with your Dr, and you know that because probably most of you if not than many of you (us) have been denied such treatments and Rxs by your health care providers and so come between you and your Dr. Wake up America!

Jun. 28 2012 12:01 PM

MItt's speech very negative. Also would like to see it fact checked. Can't wait for the debates.

Jun. 28 2012 11:58 AM

Looks like Romney's going with more lies and empty talking points rather than a real plan.

Obamacare is gonna reduce MediCare by $500 billion? And this from a guy who supported the Paul Ryan plan.

Jun. 28 2012 11:58 AM

more romney lies!

Jun. 28 2012 11:57 AM

If the congressional Republican double down on "repealing" the ACA (and *please* let's call it the ACA and not Obamacare) rather than doing something about jobs and the economy, I think it will not go well for them. The train has left the station -- let's see what happens as it moves forward and get on with other pressing matters. But part of me hopes they do go down this futile path -- and further demonstrate their essential duplicity.

Jun. 28 2012 11:53 AM
John A

Agree it would be insulting to the extreme if affordability were somehow lost in the implementation of 'Affordable Care'.
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My opinion on Roberts is that he may be trying to preserve the role of the Supreme Court in government. Too many....
(exactly what Brian is saying 11:49)
...activist decisions and the public will want the institution disbanded.

Jun. 28 2012 11:51 AM
joe from nearby

Brian-
Awesome job covering this story- you're way out ahead of the "instantaneous" internet news sites.

Jun. 28 2012 11:50 AM
The Truth from Becky

Stop with the stupid broccoli reference! This is not a door opener to other things!

Jun. 28 2012 11:47 AM
Edward from NJ

I keep saying this over and over, but the government *does* penalize you for not buying things and has for years. If someone has the same income as me, but they don't have my mortgage -- the one I got when I *bought a house*. They're paying a much bigger tax penalty than $695. We generally think of this as me getting a tax break rather that the other guy getting a penalty, but the effect is exactly the same!

Jun. 28 2012 11:46 AM
jawbone

Oh, dear, poor Rich doesn't know that most of the debt is from Bush/Cheney and the economic meltdown caused by poor and no regulation of banksters! Oh, a multiple wars no paid for, but put on the national credit card.

Of course, if Obama had used some of the monies he's put into supporting banksters into helping the lower economic quintiles, by using some of FDR's strategies, maybe we wouldn't be lingering in this long depression, with its high numbers of unemployed and disemployed, huge layoffs by the local and state governments, and a shrinking middle class with a lowered standard of living.

But, OK, talk about "socialism," if it makes you feel good, Rich. But the only socialism we have in this nation is Lemon Socialism: Profits are privatized, losses are socialized. If Jamie Dimon's recent losses of $2B are actually the $9B reported today, guess who will pay to keep JPMorgan-Chase solvent?

But, if you like that idea of the US as a socialist society, if it makes you feel good, I guess you have a right to ignore what's really going on here.

Jun. 28 2012 11:41 AM
Jennifer from Westchester

We should not agree to this mandatory care until the insurance industry agrees on a rate reduction timetable that is enforceable. Why should we give them unlimited business with no guarantee of rate reductions? That is certainly fishy, politicians....

Jun. 28 2012 11:41 AM
sophia

If this were really "Pelosicare" we probably would have gotten a public option. Obama dealt that away as fast as he could in back-rooms with lobbyists, directly contradicting his campaign rhetoric.

Jun. 28 2012 11:40 AM

and why is the dow down?
do the cowboys on wall st know this is a corporate give away?

Jun. 28 2012 11:37 AM
john from office

Wow, these anti Obamacare callers are scary. Makes me wonder about who votes, maybe we do need a king and a house of lords.

Jun. 28 2012 11:37 AM
The Truth from Becky

This is absolutely NOT like buying a house! I pay for health care and have for years, why shouldn't you pay for yours too??

Jun. 28 2012 11:33 AM
jawbone

BK from Hoboken, I think Roberts is working toward finding a way to limit the power of the Federal purse to get states to do anything. Roberts loves to undo prior SCOTUS readings of the law and Constitution.

Unless it benefits big bidness. He's basically a Corporatist (that alliance of government which big business which benefits big businesses).

As is Obama. Their differences are slight.

Jun. 28 2012 11:32 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

I still maintain that good old fashioned "capitalist" medicine PLUS Charity hospitals where doctors were required to contribute up to half their own time, is the best way to go. All of this mess is due to the intervention of the government into health care.

Jun. 28 2012 11:28 AM
jawbone

Oh, and don't forget bullying. That's another Christie "plan," Big Time.

Jun. 28 2012 11:27 AM

jawbone

the presidents of this country don’t write laws. this seems to be misunderstood by most people

Jun. 28 2012 11:27 AM
Edward from NJ

Regarding Christie, long before the Medicaid issue comes to fore, the states are supposed to set up exchanges. As I understand it, Christie has been balking at that.

Jun. 28 2012 11:25 AM
jawbone

Gov. Chris "We dasn't tax the rich!" Christie's plan is always: Cut taxes on the rich and on businesses AND give businesses tax credits or whatever he can give them.

He has no health care plans -- unless cutting them is a plan.

Jun. 28 2012 11:25 AM
BK from Hoboken

If the Feds can use Dept of Transportation funds as a stick to make states comply with the 55 MPH speed limits for a couple decades, why can't the Feds do the same with Medicaid funds? The Feds do the same thing with education funding. Seems like this part of the ruling is way out of whack.

Jun. 28 2012 11:22 AM
anne from New Jersey

Really? (Regarding the Mitch McConnell sound clip.) Why don't I believe that Mr. McConnell would do anything to improve the health care crisis in this country? Have the Republicans (since Obama) done anything but be obstructionist regarding health care. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Jun. 28 2012 11:21 AM

if mitch mcconnell and the republicats want to or wanted to reform healthcare why haven’t they?
what’s christies plan?

Jun. 28 2012 11:20 AM

hjs11211:

Agreed, the original ideas with a public option was the best way to go. Instead the GOP dragged things out long enough to ruin a good idea with corporate handouts.

Jun. 28 2012 11:17 AM
jawbone

Two words for your guest, Brian: Citizens United.

Oh, yeah, elections count, even when they're bought.

More words: Speaking of counting votes, another problem is electronic voting machines which can be hacked and adjusted for the benefit of those who control them.

Jun. 28 2012 11:15 AM
jawbone

hjs -- This is now what Pelosi would have written; this is the Obama paen to Big Corporations and their needs. He's a Corporatist and has written a bill for the big health industry players.

Jun. 28 2012 11:12 AM
Deborah from Hell's Kitchen

Isn't Roberts epileptic? I recall that he had a seizure shortly after joining the court. Personal experience may have influenced his decision.

Jun. 28 2012 11:10 AM
oscar from ny

Im a freelance witch doctor and can heal myself ;why need a doctor ...and so i know for a fact that our president and those minks in black sold us out...this provision is meant to steal even more money from all of us camouflaged as if the goverment is serving us "helping us"...alls we gonna see is a less paycheck...and if you dont pay you get fined...either way theyre gonna take your money...theyre doing to this country what they did to the x soviet union...bankrup us till we start a civil war right here in our streets...thank you president obama and company...

Jun. 28 2012 11:05 AM

In the end congress wrote a pro big business law, so why is the stock market down. The profits willl continue to role in.
Also please someone help me understand this. if congress writes and passes the laws why does a president get the blame or credit?
Instead of obamacare this should be called pelosicare
This version of affordable healthcare was a flawed compromise (and full of bad GOP ideas)
Progressives should continue to work for REAL reform. MEDICARE FOR ALL.
Let’s try modernity for a change.
The bottom line Americans continue to have one of the lowest life expectancies in the developed world

Jun. 28 2012 11:05 AM
Edward from NJ

I get why people are saying it, but it's kind of weird to call Roberts the "swing vote" when he's the one who actually wrote the opinion. It's not as if someone else wrote an opinion and he said, "Okay, I can go along with that."

Jun. 28 2012 11:03 AM

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