The Egyptian Presidential Results

Wednesday, June 27, 2012

Gideon Rose, editor of Foreign Affairs magazine and author of How Wars End: Why We Always Fight the Last Battle, explains the significance of the Egyptian presidential election results and what they mean for the U.S. relationship with Egypt. Plus: the latest on Syria.


Gideon Rose

Comments [7]

Frank Church

What in God's name does Gideon Rose know about Egypt or islamic culture, he's a white guy? There are many good historians, reporters who actually know the area, like Robert Fisk. Rose is too entrenched with American power interests. We need more independent voices. Twilight of the elites, indeed.

Jun. 27 2012 08:25 PM

Our support for Egypt's military is a rerun of bad old America's support for dictators. Even though the "Islamist" Muslim Brotherhood, (not my favorite, but if they were elected we should support them), has stated support for the existing peace treaty with Israel, your guest stated that the military would be better. Do U.S. and Israeli interests always coincide? If not, why do we always go with Israel? The influence of AIPAC is bad for Israel and bad for America, as numerous commenters on Times articles have stated. I was not amused, to say the least, to see a joint American/Israeli flag burned in Cairo. If AIPAC allowed the US to cut aid to Israel, even symbolically, to STOP the settlements, not just freeze them, and coincidentally unfreeze them when VP Biden or other American officials are there, as if to say, to put it politely, we don't need to pay attention to your wishes, it would be good for them and good for us. Their intransigence endangering us both. Yet Israel seems oblivious to our interests, as the world sees us as their poodle. Israel MUST exist. There is anti semitism everywhere. But Israel is struggling with their own racism, some Israelis even see it as a fascist state. For us to support them without any strings attached is bad for them and bad for U.S. An Op Ed in Ha'aretz was titled and had as its thesis, "Israel Does Not Want Peace. Period." Fortunately, as the New York Review of Books wrote in an article, "The Failure of the American Jewish Establishment", pointed out, young American Jews were expected by AIPAC to "check their liberalism at the door of Zionism, but have done the opposite". The Times has done a cover story on J St but not one on AIPAC. I wish Brian would cover this more. That is highly unlikely. As unlikely as his allowing anyone on air to mention it.

Jun. 27 2012 11:41 AM
Amy from Manhattan

Every time someone holds Turkey up as a model of democracy, I think about the Kurds.

Jun. 27 2012 11:24 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Good start but this president will just be a glorified figurehead, as the military will still control virtually everything it did before.

Only when Egypt gets independent civil institutions, that can enforce the rule of law, will anything really change

Jun. 27 2012 11:21 AM
amorris from nyc

There were celebrations in Tahrir following Mr Mursi's win. Many of these people risked their lives during the uprising. While they realize this was not a perfect outcome surely we can assume all these people have not been hoodwinked and are aware of the complexities of the military council rulings and the limits of Mursi's power. I have a lot more hope for Egypt especially given the average age of the population.

Jun. 27 2012 11:18 AM
Amy from Manhattan

I thought it was the parliamentary *election* that the Egyptian Supreme Council of the Armed Forces invalidated, not the *institution* of the Parliament. Is there supposed to be a new election? (Whether or not it's free & fair is a separate question.)

And wasn't it just 1 house of Parliament that had elections? What about the other one?

Jun. 27 2012 11:17 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

With all due respect to Mr. Rose, he and his cadre of squishy center-left milquetoasts at FOREIGN AFFAIRS are part of the reason that Obama has gotten away with his lead-from-behind loss of American influence in world affairs. Their silence and refusal to question his “missing-in-action” disinterest in foreign policy is disappointing. Does Mr. Rose NOT think that Obama relishes domestic campaigning in the mud more than actually performing the bigger, more difficult, shades-of-gray duties of his office? What can we expect from Mr. Rose beyond a shrug of the shoulders and the usual meek “Obama is doing all that he can.”?

Recent headlines from more objective publications:

Is Obama to Blame for Arab Spring's Failures? - Jackson Diehl, Wash Post
Elites Have Been Consistently Wrong on Egypt - Barry Rubin, Herzliya
Obama Must Do More than Manage Decline - Charles Moore, Telegraph
Egyptians Look to U.S. for Help - Sahar Aziz & Cedric Moon, The Guardian
Military Confrontation Looms in the Gulf - CSIS

Jun. 27 2012 08:47 AM

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