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Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, founder of the Cordoba Initiative and the American Society for Muslim Advancement, talks about his new book, Moving the Mountain: Beyond Ground Zero to a New Vision of Islam in America.
How about another perspective on how Sharia law treats women? Check out this video: http://youtu.be/Oqzb7ikEoU4 or theshariahwaronwomen dot org. How Sharia law as understood by a jurist (not as religious guiding principles to an Imam) can be compatible with any international human rights advocates would be an interesting discussion. This video shows that under Sharia law woman is like a domestic animal or a slave who can be punished for allowing a man to rape her. Does not sound enlightened to me despite Mr. Rauf's links to liberal Sufi groups. Bringing Sharia law to America? Maybe 200 years ago when women were considered chattels under the originally British colonial law.
In this country there are christian americans, there are jewish americans, hindu americans, and so on. Faisal says muslims in america should be american muslims. Is there a difference?
I think so. He wants america to comform to his religion, not otherwise.
Everytime I hear a liberal muslim other than a female, I hear a person who will try to dominate us.
Many Muslims in America *aren't* Americans, & they have rights too. Many groups have faced the question of how much to assimilate, & not all the individuals in each group arrive at the same answer.
Frankly, I have an issue w/the way everything seems to be framed in terms of [fill in the blank]-Americans lately. It tends to devalue noncitizens.
Other instances of Sharia law in the US - banks owned by & for Muslims operate under the "no interest" allowed principle for some, if not all, customers. Also, Kosher butchery is allowed alongside Halal butchery and travelers have long used the either Kosher or Halal butchers/restaurants when their religion has no butcher or restaurant available.
Please, enough of the fantasy, make believe, pie-in-the-sky, myth-based, obsolete NONSENSE!!
Pick up a third grade science book!!!
What other commenters seem to forget is that Sharia law like Catholic canon law, Baptist canon law, etc. is used for internal worship & institutional management in each congregation.
US law does allow canon law courts for ALL religious groups. Those groups that violate other laws - physical abuse,etc. are covered by our civil & criminal statutes.
When states "ban" Sharia law, they also effectively ban all other groups' canon law - it doesn't matter if it's Catholic, Episcopal, Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran or Rosicrucian.
jgarbuz,Aren't Muslim services divided by sex? That would keep me away.
RELIGION - zzz!!!
Nick from UWS~
I have Albanian friends who are Muslims, you would never know it and that is the way it should be. they are just people.
Jay, he just said that his goal is to get American law to conform to (kinder) Sharia law - how do you think that will affect you and your freedom of thought?
I believe that Islam will make HUGE strides in attracting many MEN in America very soon, because Christianity and Judaism have been liberalized to the point of impotence, and once Sharia becomes part of our lives, men will have the kind of power over women they have lost. Because Islam is extremely strong in PATRIARCHAL values and very stringent in its punishments and rituals. So I see a big gain for Islam in America. It may become the major religion in the country in very short order, thanks to extreme liberals who have destroyed the family. Many will see Islam as the savior of the family system.
Could you ask you guest how a Muslim might go about leaving the Muslim faith.
If he wants to promote peace and understanding in the world, he should be promoting the abolishment of religion entirely, promote realistic thinking, stop stomping around claiming he has a direct line to "God", stop pushing delusional crapola on people, and brainwashing children.
Very sorry to hear that plans for the cultural center are not going forward. I think it's tragic that the reactionary right hijacked the conversation about the center and made it such a controversy. I hope more projects like it move forward, and I wish you well in the future.
Will there be alternating services for Sunni and Shiia sects? Is Islam reformed to the point to where it can demonstrate peaceful coexistence between these groups?
I can understand the Imam's desire to make a religious center, as (I think) his father did in other places. And he appeals to moderate Muslims and moderates of other faiths. But there are non-moderate Muslims, and by teaching (though it has no central defining authority) Islam is not moderate. So I am not for this center.
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