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Hitlerland

Thursday, May 03, 2012

Andrew Nagorski discusses Hitler’s rise to power and Nazi Germany as seen through the eyes of Americans—diplomats, military, expats, visiting authors, Olympic athletes—who lived and worked there and watched it happen. Hitlerland: American Eyewitnesses to the Nazi Rise to Power offers surprising twists and a fresh perspective on this era.

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Andrew Nagorski

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Comments [9]

Ed from Larchmont

It's historical that Pope Pius XII directed all monasteries and convents in Europe to take in and hide Jewish people in danger. The Vatican itself became a large city of Jewis people, Jewish religious services included. Pope Pius spend his own money to get a boat landed in (I think it was) Argentina, they needed passports that had to be paid for.

The current estimate is that this directive to religious houses saved about 800,000 Jewish people from death. After the war the chief rabbi of Rome converted to Catholicism and took the name 'Pius'.

Some say he didn't speak out enough, but he did. When the Archbishop in the Netherlands bravely spoke out it was a stirring event. But a week later the Nazis stepped up the deportation of Jewish people, and that was when Anne Frank was found. The German government recognized the Church as their prime enemy.

His messages weren't able to get into Germany, the government just stopped them. They had to be smuggled in (Mit Brennende Sorge) and those who possessed it were arrrested.

The criticism of Pope Pius didn't begin until 1964 with 'The deputy', a play whose source has been traced to the Soviets in an attempt to discredit the Church with complete fabrication.

May. 04 2012 06:05 AM
sawa from nj

will you please post a podcast of this with andrew nagorski?

May. 03 2012 01:03 PM
jgarbuz from Queens

Stalin had already caused the deaths of 4-7 million Ukrainian kulaks nearly a decade before the Holocaust.

I repeat, had there been no Bolshevism in Russia, there would have been no HItler 15 years later in Germany.

May. 03 2012 12:29 PM

Ed from Larchmont ~

The Katholic Khurch was complicit in the perpetration of the Holocaust.

May. 03 2012 12:24 PM
Ed from Larchmont

One journalist wrote in 1938 'The world is being consumed by the Communists. The only country standing up against them is this crazy man talking about blood and honor'.

May. 03 2012 12:23 PM
jgarbuz from Queens

If there had been no Bolshevik takeover in Russia in 1917, there would have been no fascism in Europe nor any Hitlerism in Germany in 1932. Fascism was the invariable reaction to Bolshevism in the east.

As for Mein Kampf, Jabotinsky was already warning Jewry to leave Europe and come to Palestine as early as 1927 while its gates were open, but hsi warnings fell on deaf ears for the most part.

May. 03 2012 12:21 PM
Ed from Larchmont

As nuncio Pope Pius XII said that (1929) 'Hitler was a man who could walk on corpses', 'completely untrustworthy'.

May. 03 2012 12:15 PM
John A.

Edward,
I couldn't find your word nunzio, but did Nuncio in my research.
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Atheists typically say that Hitler was a christian and further that the pope provided him with a list of the Jews. I continue work to verify/disverify these assertions. Perhaps you can help.

May. 03 2012 12:12 PM
Edward Helmrich from Larchmont

Segments of most churches attempted to find common ground between their beliefs and the Germans. The only Church that condemned them from the start, from the later Pope Pius XII's time in Germany as nunzio, was the Catholic Church.

Margaret Sanger and other eugenicists like her applauded the rise of the Nazis and even worked with them, serving on committees in Germany and consulting on race based policies. The German regime was the culmination of decades of eugenicist efforts, which began at the time of Darwin's cousin.

This German regime was also extraordinarily popular in Germany. Evil has an appeal if one doesn't look too close.

May. 03 2012 06:09 AM

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