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Mexican Migration Has Ended

Thursday, April 26, 2012

Jeffrey S. Passel, senior demographer at the Pew Hispanic Center, talks about a new report: "Net Migration from Mexico Falls to Zero - and Perhaps Less," and what those findings mean on both sides of the border.

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Comments [23]

KC

Coincidence? Today marked the first time since 1989 that an anglo worked on the landscaper's crew that cares for the property out here in suburban Essex, NJ. Not one, but two! Great program

Apr. 26 2012 02:14 PM
jgarbuz from Queens

To Mark

Israel is FULL OF JEWISH LEFTISTS who support the very many illegal immigrants who now flood Tel Aviv schools and hospitals. It's just as bad in Israel as it is here, even worse in many areas! Israel is FULL of illegal Arabs and black Sudanese and other imported workers who now won't go home. And the JEwish liberal lawyers there fight to keep them there. It's a HUGE problem in ISrael too! Wherever you have large numbers of Jewish leftists you are going to have large problems, unfortunately. Look what happened to Russia in 1917 which led to the rise of fascism in Western Europe a few years later. Germany would never have voted Hitler into power were it not for the threat from Bolshevik Russia.

Apr. 26 2012 01:40 PM
Mark

To see if someone is really committed to open borders or just trying to drive down wages for maids ask them if they support unlimited "undocumented immigration" to Israel too.

Apr. 26 2012 01:28 PM
jgarbuz from Queens

To sheldon again

Wait till whites are finally a real minority here and have only a minority of representatives in the Congress, and only then we'll see what happens. Americans have lots of guns. We'll see if this great Constitution holds up then. That alone will be the true test.

Apr. 26 2012 12:54 PM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Jg - America is a land of immigrants, I don't think the "lose their country" thesis applies here.

Apr. 26 2012 12:49 PM
jgarbuz from Queens

To sheldon again

Yes, economically speaking, a "borderless world" would be in theory economically ideal. Alas, history proves that nobody wants to lose their country to excessive immigration. The Egyptian pharaoh felt threatened by the growth of the Hebrews in Goshen. The Roman state ultimately succumbed to massive "immigration" of Germanics and other "barbarian" (uneducated) "invaders." No ethnic group wants to become a minority in its own ancient national homeland. That is why nations have borders and national sovereignty. That is not economically ideal, but it is just reality nonetheless. Do whites want to become a marginalized minority here? Did "indians" want it? Do Jews in Israel want to become part of a majority Arab state again? Do the French? THe Dutch? Even the Swedes? I don't think so. Even the USSR largely broke up because were fearful of becoming a minority in the SOviet Union. Russian ethnics were only half the population. I was told this by Russian-Jewish immigrants in ISrael back in the 1980s, that if the USSR ever did break up, it would be more due to the "minorities problem" in Russia than because of the terrible economic system itself.

Apr. 26 2012 12:12 PM
jgarbuz from Queens

To SHeldon

Why don't go live in Mexico and agitate there, and tell us how it's going, okay? :)

Apr. 26 2012 12:00 PM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Jg - I appreciate that but again - if the immigration system was more efficient we would not have so many "illegals". You of all people - talk about the free movement of Capital and abortions killing off potential US workers. Trying to restrict labor that way just does not work.

Apr. 26 2012 11:59 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

Sheldon

HA! My parents and I were waiting in a refugee camp in Germany to go to PALESTINE, not to America. But if you know some history, the British had closed off Palestine and there was a war going on. AFter about 3 years in the camp, Truman - God Bless His Soul - allowed some 100,000 Jews into the US, and we were 3 of them. Holocaust survivors. So no, my parents didn't wait ten years. They just had to survive a major World War and a Holocaust, and have their families exterminated, themselves just luckily surviving, and that's the "minor" price we had to pay. But our goal was not America. It was to go help build a Jewish state, but that was foiled by the circumstances of the time.

Apr. 26 2012 11:50 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Robert, when you are one traffic stop away, in Arizona or Alabama, from being arrested and being detained "indefinitely" - there is nothing to "tough out"

Apr. 26 2012 11:48 AM
Anonymous from Brooklyn

That many are leaving the US for Mexico doesn't surprise me at all. Many of my friends (who are highly educated) are leaving the US for better opportunities abroad. I plan to leave in a few years since the dominance of the financial sector has made it difficult for young people who work in other professions to be able to afford health care, a home, and to save for the future education of one's children as well as retirement. I think more and more people will leave in coming years (immigrants and non-immigrants).

Apr. 26 2012 11:47 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

You can't sneak into Mexico illegally without getting into real trouble. Mexican law is not easy on illegal immigrants into MExico. If Mexican law allows Americans with incomes to come and stay, that's their law. If they want to change it, it's okay by me too. The Mexicans returning to Mexico now have some money and skills they earned and learned here, so now hopefully build up their own economy so that they don't have to come back here again. The US,with 4% of the world's population allowed in 74% of all the refugees in the world. Isn't that enough?

Apr. 26 2012 11:46 AM
Abe from Elizabeth, NJ.

Quality of life have improved in Mexico and South America...In Ecuador, political inestability was the number one cause of migration...Now, everything has changed, we have a president that works for the people..poverty is very low and the economy is improving year after year..

Apr. 26 2012 11:45 AM
Estelle

We have heard that Obama's policy has been to prioritize deportations so that we focus on those committing other crimes, and on employers, rather than (otherwise) law-abiding individuals. What percentage of the deportations you mentioned are such cases?

Apr. 26 2012 11:45 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Jg - easy to say, I don't think your parents had to wait 10 years.

Apr. 26 2012 11:44 AM
Jack Jackson from Central New Jersey

Please excuse my cynicism but isn't four decades approx. the length of the average work-life/career? How many of these "returnees" are folks going back home after making their pile in the U.S.A.? If the US immigration policy were more sane - a legacy of the Reagan years - this would never have become a problem.

@jerry - Illegal immigrant....not illegal.

Apr. 26 2012 11:43 AM
Robert from Queens

Maybe they'll eventually realize that they have to agitate for better conditions in their own country, rather than simply moving to another.

Apr. 26 2012 11:42 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Jerry - you speak misguided nonsense. Mexican immigrants in general, are some of the most hardworking people you will see - they create more jobs than they "take away"

Apr. 26 2012 11:42 AM
ian from brooklyn

How can we know the numbers if they are undocumented?

Apr. 26 2012 11:40 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

Immigrants have to come here LEGALLY, as my parents and I did back in 1949. I'm an immigrant, and not against other immigrants, as long as they come here legally with the permission of my government. Why am I wrong?

Apr. 26 2012 11:40 AM
Linda Dyett from East Village

I've been hearing that Baja California is turning into a West Coast version of Florida's east coast, with droves of budget-minded retirees settling in numerous senior citizens' communities there (that have recently been built by U.S. companies). But are these retirees documented??

Apr. 26 2012 11:39 AM
Jerry from nyc

maybe a U.S. born carpenter, roofer, bricklayer etc. will finally get a job instead of an illegal at cut rate, less illegals at emergency rooms getting treated for free, less anchor babies being born here at tax payers expenses, not rewarding them w/U.S. citizenship for being here might be working

Apr. 26 2012 11:35 AM

I’ve seen on tv a large number of Americans retiring in Mexico back when housing prices were high. What is the current numbers of Americans invading Mexico?

Apr. 26 2012 11:04 AM

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