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Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Murray Weiss, DNAinfo columnist and criminal justice editor looks at the overall mood at the NYPD, from criticism of stop-and-frisk to the PBA's ad campaign, and discusses the increase in police shootings. 

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Comments [28]

tom LI ~

Astute observation!

Bravo.

Apr. 12 2012 11:40 AM
tom LI

To the morale issue. Its not isolated to the NYPD - its reaching epidemic levels all across the board in nearly all Blue-Collar, and many non-high-level-executive White-collar jobs. Its all due to the cultural Business trend to make every move we make in our jobs related to revenue. Be it public (though not enough in many Govt agencies) or the private sector jobs - the "if you don't contribute to covering your salary every second, every minute of every day, you're gonna lose it!" mentality has taken over. Like an invasive species that eventually kills its host, this make your pay or die mentality is killing morale everywhere, and will eventually destroy what little is left of the once great core and backbone of the American Business Sector. Where only the ones who can stand the constant whipping from their Bully-style managers will be left...

Apr. 11 2012 05:35 PM

Called to ask for the number of times officers had been "shot" as a result of the stop and frisk program. It seemed that the Mr. Weiss mentioned that as a cause for the "increasing" number of police officers being involved as victims in shooting incidents. Admittedly not as riveting "radio" as a police officer calling about how his morale is being lowered by his inability to give breaks on traffic tickets to people he finds deserving of his grace. Wah. wah, wah!
Higher ups are ordering you to do so - name the names - not where they work, but who they are. I thought that's what police officers did - identify lawbreakers. Hopefully there are enough competent police officers to undo your union's P.R. campaign to establish a narrative of victim-hood for the police force.

Apr. 11 2012 11:34 AM

The number of parking tickets issued have surged 42% since Mayor Bloomberg took office.

Apr. 11 2012 11:14 AM

geT and Sheldon ~

More power to you!!

But, there's no arguing with dumb.

Apr. 11 2012 11:08 AM

Oh, geezus, here we go with the pedantic, grade school history lessons!!!

zzz!

Apr. 11 2012 11:05 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Jg - are you saying if Lenin wasn't bungled into a Russian bound train by the mischievous Germans - there would be no fascism?

Fascism, had it's own causes, mainly resentment of colonial powers, WW1 and the Versailles treaty (in the case of Germany)

Ironically - fascism's biggest gripe with Bolshevism was their anti-semitic association of it with being controlled by "Jews"

Apr. 11 2012 11:04 AM
geTaylor from Bklyn, NY

@jgarbuz from Queens:
. . .
"Don't forget Fascism only arose in western Europe AFTER Russia fell to Communism . . . Fascism was the response to Bolshevism."

EPIC Misunderstanding.
These totalitarian gangs, dedicated to forced Utopias, have the same meaningful differences as the "Jets" and the "Sharks"; the "Mafia" and the "Westies"; the current day "republicans" and "democrats".

Apr. 11 2012 11:02 AM

The ticket writing scam is OUT OF CONTROL!!!

Bloomberg/Kelly cannot make-up their lost Wall Street revenue on the backs of ordinary New Yorkers by installing traffic ticket quotas!!

Have a look at the intersection of Thompson and Watts on any weekday at 3:30pm. This intersection is always congested at this time of the day as it is near the entrance of the Holland Tunnel. This is also the location of a gymnastics school where young children attend after-school classes. Traffic is backed-up for as far as the eye can see in two directions on both, Watts/Broome and Thompson. The crosswalks are dangerously blocked by vehicles, forcing children and their parents to risk their lives by weaving in and out of traffic moving against the light. Many of the the children are the exact height of the exhaust pipes that pump exhaust into the crosswalk.

Instead of directing traffic to make the intersection safe AND alleviate the two directions of CLOGGED GRIDDLOCK, the GENIUS NYPD stations as many as 6 (SIX!!) traffic cops at this intersection who HIDE behind the south-east corner building and then descend on the vehicles that are trapped in the box to issue REAMS of $150 tickets for blocking the box. Instead of taking care of the various SERIOUS problems presented by the circumstance; literally miles of blocked traffic in two directions, UNSAFE crosswalks for passing children, belching exhaust, noise pollution in the form of BLARING horns, the "ALTRUISTIC" NYPD is EXTREMELY "busy" fulfilling very clear ticket quotas INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY DIRECTING TRAFFIC to make the crosswalks safe and reduce the congestion.

This behavior/policy is CRIMINAL and REPREHENSIBLE!!

Disgusting.

Apr. 11 2012 11:01 AM
Orla from NYC

What does it tell us about the Police Dept.'s priorities that lost traffic-ticket revenue is treated so seriously while there were more than 20 cyclists killed in NYC last year and only two arrests resulting from them? (This per WNYC's own report two days ago, on April 9.)

Apr. 11 2012 10:52 AM
EH Atkinson from Brooklyn

Great segment, wonderful public service, enlightening - great voices and intelligence esp at the very end when your astute screeners allowed the anonymous officer on the line. His remarks and Murray's reply were so on target and reveal a world most of us don't know or see. Thanks.

Apr. 11 2012 10:50 AM
geTaylor from Bklyn, NY

Called to ask for the number of times officers had been "shot" as a result of the stop and frisk program. It seemed that the Mr. Weiss mentioned that as a cause for the "increasing" number of police officers being involved as victims in shooting incidents. Admittedly not as riveting "radio" as a police officer calling about how his morale is being lowered by his inability to give breaks on traffic tickets to people he finds deserving of his grace. Wah. wah, wah!
Higher ups are ordering you to do so - name the names. I thought that's what police officers did - identify lawbreakers. When you convince us that your concerns are in other ares, don't think that you union's P.R. campaign to establish a narrative of victim-hood will be effective.

Apr. 11 2012 10:46 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

To Sheldon from Brooklyn.

Don't forget Fascism only arose in western Europe AFTER Russia fell to Communism. Communism came to Russia in 1917; Fascism first came to Italy in 1921. Fascism was the response to Bolshevism.

Apr. 11 2012 10:39 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Yes there is JG - The NYPD has done a great job reducing crime. I've lived here long enough to know and appreciate that. However, there is also a thin line between democracy and fascism.

Apr. 11 2012 10:34 AM
gary from queens

Police are being unfairly penalized for "losing" traffic court cases.

Most cases are not dismissed. But in many, the fines are reduced. Why? Because judges have that discretion----if there were mitigating circumstances.

Police officers dont have that discretion. They must write a ticket or not.

I received a parking ticket last year. it's not fun. But almost any excuse will enable you to get the fine reduced.

Apr. 11 2012 10:31 AM
CL from NYC

The NYPD is out of control, and an extensive independent review is long overdue. And no amount of whining by the rank and file about losing vacation pay for making mistakes is going to change that. Personally, I don't believe that all of the major problems reside in the senior echelons (the behavior of cops on the street in my neighborhood is often appalling), but a thorough investigation would address that.

Apr. 11 2012 10:27 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

The police have done a yeoman's job in NYC over the last 20 years and we should all support them to the hilt! Those who don't know what NY used to like crime-wise earlier on, have no clue how bad things can get if things are let go to deteriorate again. I'm sorry to hear that things are going so sour again in the NYPD. They are the blue line between civilization and utter chaos, mayhem and murder. We all must support them!

Apr. 11 2012 10:25 AM
Elle from Brooklyn

This man really knows what he is talking about. It is not the attractive job that it used to be, so the department has dropped its standards abominably just to fill jobs.

Apr. 11 2012 10:25 AM
Maggie from Brooklyn

It is so striking how similar the issues are at the DOE and the NYPD: rock bottom morale, told to meet numbers but then punished for finding ways to do so, no support from the institution, etc.

Apr. 11 2012 10:25 AM
Elle from Brooklyn

He is absolutely right - the quality of training today has greatly declined.

Apr. 11 2012 10:23 AM
RL

I feel for the cops, but technology has caught up to them: they used to be able to fix tickets for friends with no problem, but now that stuff is so much easier to track. I know it's a long time tradition, but this scandel, which is such a small thing, has made them look bad in a very big way.

Apr. 11 2012 10:23 AM
john from office

Hello, you join a paramilitary organization run by a Marine. What do you expect the ACLU??? No, there is a reason for rank and order.

Apr. 11 2012 10:21 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

This is the same Pat Lynch that said cops fixing tickets for their friends and family is privilege.

This is the same Pat Lynch that said a rookie cop, knocking a guy off a bicycle, almost breaking his neck was in the right.

Apr. 11 2012 10:20 AM
fuva from Harlemworld

As they tussle with the NYPD hierarchy, I wonder if the rank and file will increasingly identify with their working class brethren.

Apr. 11 2012 10:20 AM
Elle from Brooklyn

Docking officers' vacation days is NOT new - it has been common practice for decades.

Apr. 11 2012 10:19 AM

Let's also talk about the "spike" in corruption of police, not least of which is stop and search and claiming small amounts of concealed marijuana were exposed. Police must be stellar in their behavior.

Apr. 11 2012 10:16 AM
john from office

Brian, tie this into WNYC's war against stop and frisk. Tie this into your news story today about the shooting in the Astoria projects.

Apr. 11 2012 10:11 AM

Wouldn't be surprised to hear the rank and file NYPD hates the white shirts, after seeing how they behave towards Occupy. It's the white shirts who are in all those videos beating people up, pepper-spraying trapped and writhing women, pulling their hair and throwing them on the ground, slamming random people into the front of cars. Those are the guys who are giving orders over there. Real good guys.

Apr. 11 2012 10:03 AM

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