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Setting The Week in Politics

Tuesday, February 21, 2012

Anna Sale, It's A Free Country politics reporter and Todd Zwillich, Takeaway Washington correspondent, talk about the GOP nomination race, the payroll tax cut extension, and other political news.

Comments [18]

Sheldon from Brooklyn

Amy, if you haven't - you should read "The Essence of Christianity" by Ludwig Feuerbach

The whole point of Christianity, since Roman times - especially Catholicism, is to find a path to God and heaven, from this "impure earth" and our "sinful flesh of a body."

Of course, other sects of the religion may not emphisize it as much before but it is a major part of Christian dogma.

Feb. 21 2012 12:30 PM
Amy from Manhattan

Sheldon, I'm not sure I understand. "Dogma" as distinct from what? And there may be some aspects of dogma that all denominations of Christianity share, but I don't think this is 1 of them.

Feb. 21 2012 11:58 AM
Sheldon from Sheldon

Amy - point taken, that's why I said dogma.

Feb. 21 2012 11:48 AM
Amy from Manhattan

Sheldon, I think that's overgeneralized. Many denominations don't take such a position, & there's even an organization called the National Religious Partnership for the Environment (http://www.nrpe.org/)--which includes the US Conference of Catholic Bishops!

Feb. 21 2012 11:26 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Actually Mark and Amy - Santorum's position on the environment is consistent with the dogma of Christianity and many other organized religions.

They despise the earth and the human body, as they're considered just a temporary route to heaven. After all, they are always looking forward to the end of days.

Feb. 21 2012 10:47 AM
Amy from Manhattan

Mark, good point, esp. given that Santorum is Catholic! The other part is that he apparently thinks humankind will be just fine if we don't take care of the earth.

Feb. 21 2012 10:38 AM
Peg

Santorum's position on the auto bailout was reported quite extensively - he was/is against it:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/17/us/politics/in-detroit-santorum-defends-opposition-to-auto-bailout.html

and many npr segments in the last week

Feb. 21 2012 10:30 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

So the payroll tax "holiday" will take billions out of the SS stream, some holiday. Just like the Bush tax cuts - stealing Americans' money by bribing them with it.

Feb. 21 2012 10:29 AM

I love experts

Feb. 21 2012 10:28 AM
Helen from manhattan

Sad that we should be overwhelmingly "thankful" that congress managed to half way do their job on the Nth something attempt.

Feb. 21 2012 10:28 AM
Mark from New Jersey

If Santorum is going to keep pushing his religious rhetoric, there is something that reporters should ask him about -

Senator Santorum claims that Obama's concern for the environment is "anti-Religion", or even "anti-Biblical", so ohow does he respond to this official position of America's Catholic Bishops -

"As people of religious faith, we bishops believe that the atmosphere that supports life on earth is a God-given gift, one we must respect and protect. It unites us as one human family. If we harm the atmosphere, we dishonor our Creator and the gift of creation."

There's more - http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/environment/global-climate-change-a-plea-for-dialogue-prudence-and-the-common-good.cfm

I'n not saying that everyone else must follow the religious positions of the Bishops - I'm just pointing out that Santorum's claim that concern for the environment is an "anti-religion" position is, well, a bunch of garbage.

Feb. 21 2012 10:24 AM
Amy from Manhattan

"Beaks in the pool"? I have no idea what that means. Did I hear it wrong?

Feb. 21 2012 10:22 AM
Max from northern New Jersey

PLEASE stop your "horse race" coverage of elections!

How about requiring ten minutes per day discussing the candidates and their stands on important issues?
Ten minutes per day, please!

Feb. 21 2012 10:22 AM
John A.

I read some comments from Santorum's 'Caffeinated Thoughts' interview and I'd say he's provocative, but those statements would appear much more relevant if they'd been from a catholic bishop than from a politician of any sort.

Feb. 21 2012 10:18 AM
Nick from UWS

Santorum challenging Obama on his "Christianity." Without ever questioning the validity of religion itself.

Politics.....morons challenging morons over the validity of moronic ideas and fairy tales in order to win power over millions of other morons. The activities of morons really should not be the basis of intelligent adult discussions.

Meanwhile, the realists of this world are completely ignored, because people prefer the fairy tales supplied by politicians and religion to real life.

Feb. 21 2012 10:14 AM
DarkSymbolist from NYC!

"....a visceral emotional issue" LOL
Just call it what it is...plain old fashioned racism and xenophobia. Why be cowardly and dance around it???

Feb. 21 2012 10:13 AM
Ken

It saddens me greatly not only that Santorum is attacking Obama on religion, but that nobody will have the guts to stand up and say IT DOESN'T MATTER. I would be an Obama supporter if he were muslim, or jewish, or hindu, or atheist, or anything else. That's what I was always taught was the basis of this country - it's depressing to see concrete proof otherwise.

Feb. 21 2012 10:10 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

The payroll tax is another vote-buying fraud by Barry Obama to win re-election.

It has repeatedly been shown by economists to produce a far weaker impact on helping the economy than a cut in income taxes or corporate taxes. But since 45% now don’t pay any NET federal income taxes (only the evil rich) and only evil corporations pay corporate taxes .... this maneuver reaches more voters and keeps them on the Democratic “payroll”.

And let’s not forget that this is only a one year tax “holiday” from seizing your money. You can’t imagine Democrats actually cutting permanent tax rates, can you? The American public, as it gets poorer under Obama, appears to be more easily bought these days.

And while we are discussing the politics of taxes, let’s celebrate that on April 1st, the U.S. will officially have the world’s HIGHEST corporate taxes (we were only #2) .... as Japan’s recent cut in its rate becomes effective on that date. Gosh, who said that Barry Obama isn’t fond of “American exceptionalism”?

Feb. 21 2012 07:16 AM

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