US-China Relations in an Election Year

Thursday, February 16, 2012

As Chinese Vice President, Xi Jinping visits the US this week, Stephen Orlins, president of the National Committee on United States - China Relations, discusses how the Obama administration and election year politics are affecting ties between the US and China. 

Comments [23]

PL Hayes from Aberystwyth

I wish people would stop using the always inaccurate¹ and often highly inappropriate expression, “intellectual property theft”. Intellectual property covers a great many very different rights, and _“infringement”_ of such rights can include everything from whistling Happy Birthday in public to the really economically serious and clearly immoral stuff. In fact patents can and often do provide a horribly ironic moral inversion of a counter to those who carelessly speak of “IP theft”, in which the patentee may be the party best described - appropriately and justly if not legally accurately - as the thief, and the infringer the victim.


Feb. 16 2012 11:04 AM

Spelling alert: Sinovel not Sinoval:

Feb. 16 2012 10:53 AM
p from Glen Cove

It seems that free trade was a bust. Am I missing something? - wouldn't tariffs have protected the sales (and manufacturing) of goods, and kept those jobs in the U.S.? The deregulation made billions for so called "multinational" companies at the expense of our own GDP.

Feb. 16 2012 10:49 AM


We, all three share in the love of the death penalty.

Feb. 16 2012 10:48 AM

I love how your guest casually dismisses the horrific conditions of migrant workers as an improvement

Feb. 16 2012 10:44 AM

The American company American Superconductor (AMSC) has had proprietary technology stolen and a billion dollar order rejected by the Chinese company Sinoval. Sinoval rejected the previous order after they started producing their own version of the very same product with the stolen technology.

Buyer (seller) beware!

Feb. 16 2012 10:42 AM
Amy from Manhattan

licnyc: Right, because Apple never made anything before the iPhone, therefore they couldn't have moved jobs making Macs, iPods, iBooks, etc., to China more than 4 years ago.

Tom & JoeCorrao: Context, anyone? Mr. Orlins said it was complex & distinguished btwn. the short- & long-term pictures.

Feb. 16 2012 10:38 AM

@licnyc from queens

The point is that US electronics manufacturing has been in decline for a long time. There are no facilities left in the US that can produce iPhones with the scale and efficiency needed to compete with foreign manufacturers.

Feb. 16 2012 10:35 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

THe reality is that Asia ONCE AGAIN is the major marketplace of the world again. Marco Polo described the marvels of Cathay way back in the 13th century.Columbus and other early European explorers were looking for ways to get to Asia. Europe only emerged dominant after the "NEw World" was discovered, and Europeans had the resources of newly discovered continents to exploit or make use of, and to dispose of some of its poorer excess population. At the same time, the Asians chose to look inward and closed themselves off from the "barbarians" as they saw the West. But by doing so, they stifled their own progress and Asia became an imperialist playground, with every European power grabbing a piece. Japan was forced open and they hastened to copy everything from the West, to become industrialized and remain independent. But after the fall of Communism and Socialism, the rest of Asia followed suit, and now the West is the side that is struggling to try keep ahead.

Feb. 16 2012 10:34 AM
Amy from Manhattan (almost typed "Mandarin"!)

Vice Pres. Xi went to school in Iowa, so why does he need a translator here? Is there some kind of political reason for when he speaks English in the US & when he speaks Chinese (probably Mandarin?) & has it translated?

Feb. 16 2012 10:31 AM
licnyc from queens

How is apples jobs moved in the 70's? They started producing iphones 4 years ago. After I heard this I now know everything this guy is saying is total bunk.

Feb. 16 2012 10:28 AM
Ellen Sicignano from Patterson, NY

Jimmy Carter has been a strong advocate for human rights. What was his policy towards China when he was President? Did he fit into the in-power vs. out-of-power mold that your guest describes?

Feb. 16 2012 10:28 AM
Bob M from Manhattan

According to US Census Stats only 2.7% of US Personal Consumer Expenditure is on goods imported from China.

Feb. 16 2012 10:28 AM
john from office

Brian, please ask if there will be a revolt between the coastal areas, that are doing well and the interior, that remains in the 3rd world??

Feb. 16 2012 10:26 AM
bernie from bklyn

what did he just say? american companies make things in china to sell to the chinese? is this a joke?

Feb. 16 2012 10:26 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

While western investment banks create credit default swaps, the Chinese are buying up and "investing in" every natural resource they can get their hands on in Africa and South America. We all know how this will end in 20 years.

Feb. 16 2012 10:26 AM

auto insurance? why the h--- should china's auto insurance business go to companies based in NY?
make's one think. what kind of business is insurance, anyway?... insurance for profit is usury,or something like it.
if insurance is for profit that makes us - humans, customers, citizens if it's required by law - cash cows for the money hoarders.

Feb. 16 2012 10:22 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

The resurrection of Asia after the downfall of Communism, created an economic Tsunami that hit the West hard. Like a continent rising, the spillover effect on other continents was great and shocking. But once communism and socialism were overthrown in China, India and the rest, there was no stopping them. Half the world emerged from poverty and slavery to work hard and compete. However, it's time they played by the new WTO rules and start by the modern rules of the game. Intellectual property has to be respected, and they have to start letting their currency float so that it's value reflects market forces. But the US has to get off its butt and start working hard for a living again. The US has to stop whining and start competing in every sphere, educationally and economically. Nothing can be take for granted anymore.

Feb. 16 2012 10:18 AM

32 years and its gotten better...ya great job egghead...this is why Ilearn more in a Brooklyn Bar (Cody's Court St), than listening a think tanker...

Feb. 16 2012 10:17 AM
tom from asroria

Harmony? Human Rights progress? Our business leaders -- like your guest -- are willing to see the transfer of enormous wealth and power to an authoritarian communist state for temporary profits. Giving the future to China for short term profits.

Feb. 16 2012 10:17 AM
thomas warren from astoria

I support our leaders being "tough" on China. I add OUR BUSINESS LEADERS to those who are responsible for removing tens of millions of jobs to places where their profit margins are higher. they have given the future to China at their own homeland's expense.

Feb. 16 2012 10:13 AM
Jeff Pappas from Ct

BTW does not our federal reserve " Manipulate our Currancy "
Or is just printing $ as you need it OK
Hypocrisy by the Jingoistic Republicans is alive and well

Feb. 16 2012 10:12 AM

people like to bash china, but consumers demand cheaper and cheaper goods. chinese cheaper labor is just felling free market need at the request of americans

Feb. 16 2012 10:07 AM

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