Following Up: Predatory Schools

Friday, January 06, 2012

Jonathan Mintz, commissioner of the Department of Consumer Affairs, follows up on the topic of predatory schools and the city's campaign, "Know Before You Enroll."


Jonathan Mintz

Comments [13]

Charlie, that guy was Australian.

Jan. 06 2012 04:24 PM
D.L.Mc from Staten Island

Why is this limited to for-profit schools? Half the drug addicts in my neighborhood are attending community college. Enrolling in college to avoid jail time/stay on welfare is the norm.

All parties in the education-industrial complex who encourage teens barely squeaking by high school to "invest" in furthering their education are guilty. The statistics show most of these young adults will never get a degree - just the burden of debt.

Jan. 06 2012 03:38 PM
Charlie from Elmhurst

Was anybody else amused by the comment by the caller with the British accent who said these for-profit schools were for babysitting rich Manhattan kids. This is hilarious. I think we know who goes to these schools and it's not rich manhattan kids.

Jan. 06 2012 12:11 PM
Kathy from Clifton NJ

My son attends an automotive technical school in NJ that I consider predatory also, considering he had to drop out of one course because the teacher was calling him names, cursing at him & doing things like telling the whole class they were loosers and should commit suicide! My son felt he was not learning in that environment. He actually realizes now that the school hyped everything about the learning environment, including the quality of the tools he was given. On my son's behalf I had to call the school and wound up talking to many administrators there just to get him the ability to take the course over with another teacher & not be charged. Eventually I had to call the national office & speak to a VP threatened them with contacting their accreditation institution! That got them moving! I teach at a NYC Suny school and know all about accreditation from Middlestates and NASAD. And actually I can't believe the price of tuition at this school. Now I am going thru an attempt by the school to charge my son extra tuition charges because they say he took a leave of absence, more books & tools, tuition increases: all bogus charges.

Jan. 06 2012 12:02 PM
Parsons AAS from NYC

Perhaps it is not only these private schools that are predatory but I find many AAS programs at reputable schools to be questionable. I attended Parsons School of Design AAS Fashion Design program. This program cost a fortune, the classes were over crowded. In my opinion such skills cannot be properly taught in a 2 year period. I also found out that everyone who applies to the program gets in -even though you are romanced through a rigorous application process.

Additionally, they say you can do the two year program in 1.5 years however the work load beyond reasonable and when required courses are needed they are often unavailable due to over crowding at the schools. Someone should investigate.

Jan. 06 2012 11:47 AM
NY Parent

Does your program also cover private secondary schools? just wondering if there is any ratings\recommendations for for profit secondary schools.

Jan. 06 2012 11:43 AM
Amy from Manhattan

Is there a checklist of what to look for to see if a school is legit or predatory? Would it be better to look at a school's website for things like accreditation, rather than going there & being pressured to sign up?

Jan. 06 2012 11:42 AM
Tara Rose from Lower East Side, Manhattan

My brother, a native NYer, was a victim of a for-profit culinary school in the Los Angeles area. Two years later, none of his credits transfer. He paid for his education through the GI bill, but doesn't even have a degree. Is there any legal recourse for this?

Jan. 06 2012 11:42 AM
Jt from Nyc

Why aren't the sales people held liable for compensating the defrauded people? They know what they're selling

Jan. 06 2012 11:41 AM

I attended TCI on W32 St--I have an Associate which is valueless and a very high student loan. TYhey use up all the Financial aid in 1 st Semester and then student loans @ 4000

Jan. 06 2012 11:40 AM
Helen from manhattan

Thank you for this follow up, this subject is really important. I think it is really sad that people who want to better their lives and careers are taken advantage of. I looked at a few schools for my brother and was always surprised by these statistics like "90%+ job placement within 6 months" or "make this salary after graduation" kind of thing. How is this regulated? Where and how can they advertise these kinds of statistics? I can't believe that lots of these places really deliver on such high promises, not even a top rated university could.

Jan. 06 2012 11:40 AM
James from nyc

education is easy to sell, very profitable and no backround checks for people who run them, so it attract some real scamers.

Dont for get school loans are not dischargeable in bankrupcy.

Jan. 06 2012 11:35 AM
NYC college grad

Is Pratt a predatory private college? I was subjected to 4+ years of psycho-tropic torture consisting of sleep deprivation, non-existent facilities while a voice repeated "you are getting a special education".
I make part-time minimum wage using skills I never learned and payed 40k+ a year.

Jan. 06 2012 11:06 AM

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