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Tuesday, December 20, 2011

Dan Huttenlocher, dean of the Cornell computing and information science department, talks about Cornell University and Israel's Technicon winning a competition to open a science and engineering school on NYC's Roosevelt Island.

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Dan Huttenlocher

Comments [26]

Charlie from Elmhurst

I hope the gross shiny metal box buildings shown in the aerial rendering do not get built. Why do people want to live and work inside these machines anyway? There's so many examples of good architecture from the past to inspire us. Think about your vacation in Europe or elsewhere. Do you remember fondly or were you in awe of any metal box building that you saw there? Probably not. I hope what gets built is not the latest "fad" in the architecture world. If so, we'll get stuck looking at for years to come.

Dec. 20 2011 09:15 PM
Mark

I'm so excited this is actually going to happen. A new elite tech school is great anywhere, even better in NYC! Still, I think part of the reason the bay is so innovative and exciting is because it's so far from Harvard and Wharton. There's just less of the awful MBAs those places crank out to sap the geeky startup mojo.

Dec. 20 2011 12:19 PM
doug from ocean grove, nj

@jgarbuz - without a question it's an excellent opportunity and i'd argue that the opportunity is not just for american students, but the best and the brightest, worldwide. what i believe mayor bloomberg is doing is moving forward in an agressive, businessman-like manner with an idea that will no doubt directly benefit the northeast with commerce - and ultimately the country as a whole - perhaps it will change a few minds re immigration policy when companies flock to our area to recruit this hotbed of talent.

Dec. 20 2011 12:07 PM
jgarbuz from Queens

To doug

Actually, what this joint venture does it gets Israel Technion professors and advanced students to teach American students in New York. It provides income opportunities for Israeli academics, while contributing the Israeli methods of engineering and problem solving to American students. It is exchanging knowledge for money, in effect. Which is win-win for both Israelis and Americans.

Dec. 20 2011 11:56 AM
doug from ocean grove, nj

this effort by mayor bloomberg to bring the "best and the brightest" sounds quite familiar - in fact, it's part of his immigration ideology to bring those best and brightest to the country as a whole, not just nyc for education and keep them here. is this effort his way of moving forward with this on a local level - further is there more of this style of decision making to come on other subjects -

Dec. 20 2011 11:52 AM

I wonder how one can get an infrastructure/supporting job at the facility. Is it too soon?

Dec. 20 2011 11:52 AM

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Dec. 20 2011 11:49 AM
John A

Agreed, affordable education is one of the purest forms of stimulous. Now, does this contribute to affordability at all?

Dec. 20 2011 11:45 AM
Dana

There was a question about undergraduates that I partially missed. The want this to be a graduate student campus because they generate more revenue (Undergrads are not money makers), and they want to draw international students who are willing and able to pay big $ for graduate school (without the loans.)

Dec. 20 2011 11:43 AM
anonyme

Brian! You need to go take a ride on the NEW tram - it's great!

Dec. 20 2011 11:39 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

Why does anyone suppose why IBM, National Semiconductor, Microsoft, Intel, and now Apple all put their earliest R&D facilities in Israel? Hmmm?
American hi tech companies have LEARNED that ISraeli engineers are top notch, and they don't locate in ISrael because they are Zionists or anti-Palestinians. The go where the talent and the brains are that they can make use of,

Dec. 20 2011 11:37 AM
John A

I feel that a foreign country will fly by all of this screaming, by replacing education by location with instruction over Internet. One silly little limitation is publishing companies not allowing their textbooks to go the eBook route.

Dec. 20 2011 11:34 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

I worked alongside Technion engineers in Israel, young guys, and American students will learn a LOT from graduates of Technion! Technion is the equal of MIT and the relationship will be very mutually beneficial for New York and Israel.

Dec. 20 2011 11:33 AM
Dana

Interesting - when one considers Stiglitz's position on the show yesterday that we are transitioning to a service economy and one of the the service industries is higher education, which we "export" to international students.

Dec. 20 2011 11:33 AM
Ben from Manhattan

As someone who has worked at several NYC startups, I'm hopeful. But the number one issue in NYC isn't a lack of engineering talent (though that is indeed a factor), it's cost.

New York just costs too much for startups -- we need time to create our products, to fail, to adjust strategies. Wages, real estate, marketing, other costs are just too damn high.

Dec. 20 2011 11:32 AM
Chris from Queens

What will the faculty look like?

Dec. 20 2011 11:31 AM
john

who is the partner university?

has there been any expression of concern with respect to poltics/religion and what's happening in israel/paletsine and about the partner being an israeli university

Dec. 20 2011 11:31 AM
Mike from Manhattan

It is pretty obvious that the reason that Cornell was chosen instead of Columbia is that Columbia is already the leading university in the world in revenue from patents and licenses with income from these sources at over $100 million per year. Columbia's expansion, at it's own expense, into the area north of 125th Street and west of Broadway, as well as the area around the Columbia Presbyterian hospital campus, is well under way. Giving the nod to Cornell provides another center for technological development and commercialization.

Dec. 20 2011 11:30 AM
Jon from Manhattan

The final decision all came about very quickly and raises suspicions. Why out of all the serious competitors was chosen the institution that is clearly least familiar with nurturing and bringing technology into the marketplace? And then $350M falls from the sky. Hmm....

Dec. 20 2011 11:29 AM
Tony from Santa Clara, CA

How are tech companies in NYC going to compete against financial firms for engineers?

Dec. 20 2011 11:29 AM
KA from Westchester

Are they going to be collaborating with other schools to get the critical mass that is really needed?

Dec. 20 2011 11:29 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Why didn't Bloomberg insist bidding candidates use CUNY/SUNY as a prominent partner, as a qualifier for any winning bid. We need affordable paths to science and engineering for working class/minority kids

Dec. 20 2011 11:29 AM
Ron Sanecki from Keyport, NJ

The money people will eat the technical folk for lunch. It will fail.

Dec. 20 2011 11:27 AM
Dana

They want students who can pay full tuition! This is an expensive venture.

Dec. 20 2011 11:27 AM
fuva from Harlemworld

Maybe this will be economically productive and spur innovation. But why I am suspicious of the process that produced this result? As is too often the case, seems like a few wealthy, powerful players have pushed pieces around the chess board here.

Dec. 20 2011 11:26 AM
Byron

As a Cornell student all I heard from peers and teachers was cynical pessimism regarding CU's bid.

Great to see some positive news among an academic community that continually underestimates, discredits, and ridicules itself for no apparent reason.

Dec. 20 2011 11:08 AM

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