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Troops Coming Home From Iraq

Thursday, December 15, 2011

Tom Tarantino, Iraq veteran and senior legislative associate for Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA), discusses what's next for the returning troops. Washington bureau reporter for Stars and Stripes, Leo Shane III, joins the conversation. 

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Comments [30]

chery mora

I would like to get Americans to rally around our troops coming home. They deserve to be recognized for their sacrifices. My father was a POW and my brother was stationed in Iraq when the war started. If there is someone out there that knows how to get funding for a city parade or get the ball rolling then please comment.

Feb. 05 2012 01:27 PM
Susan Cohen from Long Island N.Y.

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Dec. 16 2011 11:18 AM
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Dec. 16 2011 09:54 AM
rose-ellen from jackson heights

Just like viet nam-we were fighting the people of iraq. After those fundamentalist alquada attacked us-we feared they might topple the saudi government. Iraq-being secular and because they too have oil-was a place we thought we could have a base and get oil from if arabia collapsed due to alquada or other fundamentalists. Because people don't like being invaded with shock and awe-they fought back however they could.We pit the people against each other but they united in not aquiesing to the americans demands that our troops be given immunity from prosecution if they murder an iraqi. Sometimes we push to far as bob dylan says and because they are men and women and not mice -they said no to that flagrant dehumanization of them. Even our puppet maliki sided with the people on that one. Hence we leave looking over our shoulders knowing they fight back.I'd love to see war crime trials for americans or at least let the iraqis dismantle that triumphalist embassy we build there. And hope they make peace with iran and trade with them.[I hope that brutal dictatorship topples first].One day we should apologize to them but americans are too arrogant to apologize for mass murder and reparations would be good too. I guess PTSD is the karmic balance for now.God bless the iraqis who are the most victimizedby our war of agression.

Dec. 15 2011 03:55 PM
bernie from bklyn

brian from hoboken-
of course our military is the best in the world but it is meant to be a tool to be used as a last resort by the civilian leadership of this country, not as a tool to achieve a sick, new world order that benefits the super elite only....yes, there were some "elite academics" that served in iraq and volunteered knowing what their enrollment entailed. some did it because they just wanted to serve their country and some did it for their resume. most people in the reserves joined to get a free education..but the fact is, most in the military enroll because they have no other positive option in their lives. it was a great way to learn a trade, get a free education and have some discipline in their lives. poor kids who are trying to extract themselves from the bleak prospects in their respective towns or cities. then all of a sudden you're a pawn in the sick game of neo-con manipulators. used and abused and thrown away.

Dec. 15 2011 11:11 AM
tony from bayside

Sure Joe, but they're many constituencies that political folks answer to..right? I guess that's the problem, people have to be fearless...

Dec. 15 2011 11:07 AM
Brian from Hoboken

bernie from bklyn
c'mon brian, you know why obama said those mission accomplished type words to the soldiers- because he's trying to make them feel good about themselves after they were duped into fighting in this debacle. these people actually think they were protecting the freedom of their country and it's citizens and it was anything but....very sad.

Bernie-
I don't think you give the armed forces much credit here. Certainy there might have been many in the armed forces who signed up as part of ROTC or something never thinking they would go to war. These men and women were not duped into anything. Why would these elite people keep enrolling into the academies when they knew what awaited them upon graduation?amy academy cadets are smart and motivated enough toget into top universities and go to Wall Street or med school after graduation While I certainly did not support going to war in the first place, and many of the men and women in the armed forces might not have agreed, once we were in up to our necks we had to continue to try to assure the stability of the region (which we de-stabilized of course).

Dec. 15 2011 10:56 AM
Joe Corrao

we can end any war whenever we want...

Dec. 15 2011 10:46 AM
bernie from bklyn

@billy pilgrim- i agree 100%....we'll get plenty of fluff on network, corporate-sponsored news; we don't tune in to WNYC for the same. i contribute to this station partly because i need to hear shows like the BL show practice real journalism. he hasn't been doing much of that lately, to be honest. time to turn off the radio and read the Guardian. very disappointing.

Dec. 15 2011 10:45 AM
Billy Pilgrim from Staten Island

Very disappointed in the shallowness of this program. The US bombing, invasion, and occupation of Iraq and the subsequent reshaping of the country to fit US goals remains one of the most shameful, destructive exploits in human history. It was born out of lies, conducted with lies, and is being "ended" with lies. Nothing in the program got even close to the truth. Imagine if another country had bombed, invaded, occupied, and reshaped the United States according to its own military and economic needs, and after ten years declared the war was finally over and had a big celebration about the sacrifices of its military, completely ignoring the reality of what it had done to the other country. This was an empty piece of fluff, not worthy of WNYC. Shame.

Dec. 15 2011 10:39 AM
tony from bayside

Joe are you aware of the "US-Iraq, status of forces agreement?" The truth is Obama can't take credit for ending the war because the withdrawal was ratified before he would take office. Just like the Republicans have to stop there absurd idea of Obama leaving prematurely...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.–Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement#Approval_process

Dec. 15 2011 10:35 AM
mary from riverside

A very thoughtful discussion. Brian, thank you esp for consistently mentioning the 100,000+ Iraqis who were killed along with the losses of our troops...one of your guests seemed to refrain from this acknowledgment, and the two cannot be separated when talking about lives lost in this war. Furthermore, it is very important indeed to reflect on this war in hindsight and not only on what we do for the vets coming home....how else will we as a nation learn from our profound mistakes when following a misguided call to war?

Dec. 15 2011 10:34 AM
Nick from UWS

"bob from hunitington": your post....no words were ever truer.

Dec. 15 2011 10:27 AM
bernie from bklyn

c'mon brian, you know why obama said those mission accomplished type words to the soldiers- because he's trying to make them feel good about themselves after they were duped into fighting in this debacle. these people actually think they were protecting the freedom of their country and it's citizens and it was anything but....very sad.

Dec. 15 2011 10:27 AM
Joe Corrao

@JJ...lets agree to disagree...bet you a dollar the troops will be fighting/stationed in the middle east for a loooonnnggggg time...more of the same...mission accomplished?...mind boggling

Dec. 15 2011 10:27 AM
Nancy Young from New Jersey

How can we help? I have over 20 yrs experience teaching interviewing skills. Is there a central volunteer contact I can call to offer my help?

Dec. 15 2011 10:26 AM
Norman Fidelman from Freeport NY

I don't believe the cost of the Bush-Obama Iraq War was worth it. We never won. My heart goes out to the over 30,000 injured. This figure does not include those mentally injured. We are still spending two billion a week in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Dec. 15 2011 10:26 AM
Joe Corrao

Obama is an oppurtunist...he was against it before he was for it...terrible President

Dec. 15 2011 10:24 AM
bob from huntington

We seriously need to stop thinking of the military as a "career," with the further implication that war is a major american industry, and, hence, a major source of "employment" for those with limited alternative career options.

Dec. 15 2011 10:24 AM
Danny Kapilian from Gowanus

"Hooah" was the constant refrain of Al Pacino's retired military character in the film "Scent of a Woman".

Dec. 15 2011 10:23 AM
john from office

Wow, brian never heard the military yell, whooooaaaa, tells me he never sees a war movie, call is very common.

Glad it is over, but it will never be over till we are free of the need for mid east oil.

Dec. 15 2011 10:22 AM
Brenda from NYC

Thank you to "Jonathan" who called in. His candor and sensitivity were very touching.

Dec. 15 2011 10:22 AM
Nick from UWS

What can one feel about this? It's a completely manufactured situation.

Considering that our country's "call to service" was a bunch of lying BS and hocus pocus, and our veterans' participation in it was entirely voluntary and their own choice based on thousands of motivations having nothing whatsoever to do with the fake "mission"....the whole thing is a bunch of pathetic nonsense and the problems it has created is entirely of our own making, and we deserve it for not exercising the critical thinking necessary to not do such a criminal and outright stupid thing in in the first place.

And now the President is trying to psychologically prop up a veteran population who is going to feel gypped.

Dec. 15 2011 10:19 AM
Jack Jackson from Central New Jersey

Stick a sock in it, Joe.

There is a difference between opposing the war before it starts and ending our involvement reasonably and rationally.

U.S. troops should never have been in Iraq in the first place but you certainly can't pull out with too many things broken such that no civilian gov't can run things once we go.

I wish like hell we hadn't gone there. I am very happy that we are now out.

Dec. 15 2011 10:18 AM
Mil from USA

The takeaway from the war: U.S. military is no match for the determined resistance of a Muslim nation. 1 Trillion dollars, 1.5 million troops rotating through in-country, 9 years, and hysterical anti-Muslim/Arab bigotry notwithstanding. Congrats to the Iraqi resistance, you've ultimately triumphed, at a great and terrible cost. Look to how the Vietnamese moved forward if you want a good future.

Dec. 15 2011 10:15 AM
Joe Corrao

Man Obama gives the worst speeches...empty platitudes

Dec. 15 2011 10:15 AM
bernie from bklyn

no one wants to say this but the elephant in the room is the fact that the 4400 men and women that died and the tens of thousands that are disabled, did it in vein. their sacrifice was totally meaningless and that is so unbelievable sad. i know the president and those vets coming home have to convince themselves that there was a purpose to what they did but there is none. they died for nothing and that sickens me.
if i were a relative of a dead or disabled soldier i'd be on bush's,cheney's,wolfowitz's, hadley's, rice's, rumsfeld's etc doorstep everyday and make them see the reality of the crimes they committed. these animals should be in prison.

Dec. 15 2011 10:13 AM
Joe Corrao

are way capable of taking care of vets? are you a total jackass? bring all the troops home...Brian you are quoting totally fabricated numbers 15000 "advisors" stay in Iraq...

Dec. 15 2011 10:09 AM
Joe Corrao

the "war" is ending in Iraq cause its starting here...BHO is terrible, an empty suit
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57343287/wh-oks-military-detention-of-terrorism-suspects/

Dec. 15 2011 10:07 AM
Joe Corrao

A war he opposed yet did nothing to end it when he came in office...he is as bas as Bush...

Dec. 15 2011 10:01 AM

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