Stephanie Madoff Mack on The End of Normal

Wednesday, November 16, 2011

Stephanie Madoff Mack, the widow of Mark Madoff and daughter-in-law of Bernard Madoff, talks about living through a public crisis and her own personal tragedy. Her memoir The End of Normal tells what happened to her family when the news of Bernard Madoff’s Ponzi scheme broke. After learning that their father's wealth management company was "all just one big lie," Mark and Andrew Madoff turned their father in and cut off all communication with both parents. Mark could not overcome his sense of betrayal and shame, and he took his own life.


Stephanie Madoff Mack

Comments [40]

This woman lived a lavish lifestyle and was attracted to the husband and family in part, because of the $$ - let's be frank.

Also, she and her children will enjoy a very comfortable life even if she loses "everything"!

Nov. 16 2011 01:55 PM
Campfeddie from NYC

ann-marie desmond from London

Check for podcasts or just come back. The rent is too darn high over there!

Nov. 16 2011 01:36 PM
mike hooker from long island

i believe her. way more knowledgeable people than her didnt know and got taken. she was twice removed from it. for her to know , her husband would have had to know. i dont think the sons knew, if they did they wouldnt have been so quick to turn bernie in. they would have sat on it and tried to figure out how to position themselves . she knew they made money, how would she know if it was millions or 100's or millions. as long as her bills were paid, that's all she would know. she lost her husband, he kids are fatherless, dont be so quick to judge.

Nov. 16 2011 01:26 PM
Doris from Manhattan

This woman is an extreme lightweight; I compliment Lenny on his diplomatic approach. However, whoever picked this interviewee does public radio a disservice. Not only does she weep on mike; what is worse, she giggles. Not everyone can be a giant brain, but still....

Nov. 16 2011 01:14 PM
fuva from Harlemworld

Guess Mark was a momma's boy; Stephanie looks a lot like his mother...

Nov. 16 2011 01:12 PM
Aveen Stephenson from Manhattan

Stephanie Madoff Mack is also a victim.

Nov. 16 2011 01:08 PM
Jay F.

So, guilt by association? Thank god we don't have Sharia law... You'd all be stoning her. The woman lost her husband because of her vile in-laws. If she's guilty of doing any business with Bernie, then prove it. Otherwise have a touch of compassion... it goes a long way.

Nov. 16 2011 01:06 PM


I could have agreed with you BEFORE the interview.

Now I know that if Ms. Madoff's book does not sell she may be forced to WORK for a living.

And it is truly sad...


Nov. 16 2011 01:03 PM
The Truth from Becky

Wow u guys r tough.

Nov. 16 2011 01:01 PM

What a mediocre performance! And why should we be interested in reading her book, that she probably did not write anyway, but that is not the matter.
I would expect public radio to interview interesting, relevant people...and let her cry on TV: better place for this kind of spectacle.

Nov. 16 2011 01:00 PM
john from office

Wow, this woman should just go away. Andrew is married the the Black Umbrella lady, still rich.

Nov. 16 2011 12:59 PM
Jen from Brooklyn

I never knew the listeners of WNYC were so cruel, cynical and lacking in compassion. I hope that you never lose someone you love so suddenly and painfully.

Nov. 16 2011 12:59 PM
Elizabeth from Brooklyn

I don't believe this woman one lick. She sounds like someone who has one thing on her mind at all times - the dollar sign. The fake crying, the defensiveness - Leonard! Please ask her where the book proceeds are going!

Nov. 16 2011 12:58 PM
Will from Queens

Does anyone really know the goings on of their in-laws? Or brothers and sisters? We all live our own lives sometimes deceiving those closest to us. She deserves the benefit of the doubt...or perhaps all the haters would like to walk in her shoes.

Nov. 16 2011 12:57 PM

Can she sound any more like a stereotypical upper east side privileged white brat? I don't think so.

Nov. 16 2011 12:57 PM



This woman is SELLING her book. I don't think anybody forced her to give interviews.

Nov. 16 2011 12:56 PM

This woman is an airhead. Not a wonder why she needed a ghost writer for her book..

Nov. 16 2011 12:56 PM
Marco from new york

Lopate will be booking Ayesha Gaddafi soon......

Nov. 16 2011 12:55 PM
mark from nj

This woman's attempt to cash in on her own grief and others financial disaster, from her still-comfortable perch, is simply indecent.
Go away, be quiet, we're not listening.

Nov. 16 2011 12:54 PM

... actually working baking is just too tedious!


Nov. 16 2011 12:54 PM
marco from new york

America truly is sinking into a morass of pop culture trash.....

Nov. 16 2011 12:52 PM
fuva from Harlemworld

Oh she's not getting weepy...But then it quickly passes.
She better not read these comments.

Nov. 16 2011 12:52 PM




Nov. 16 2011 12:51 PM
Alison from Manhattan

I am so disappointed with WNYC and Lopate for airing this low quality guest - this family's "plight" sickens me - find something real to discuss!
Where are the proceeds from the book going?

Nov. 16 2011 12:51 PM
MichaelB from Morningside Heights

Some of the writers on this topic are cruel, venal, petty and unthinking.

Can you not countenance that someone could not know what their own spouse was up to, let alonge a father-in-law?

There are so many examples in history. For example, secret bigamists... go explain how wives don't catch on that their husbands lead secret, parallel lives!

Then bash this woman again, who has already suffered hugely (having lost her husband to suicide and the incredibly intrusive media attention, the death threats, etc.)

She was NOT responsible for what Bernie Madoff did. WHAT'S WITH YOU PEOPLE??

Nov. 16 2011 12:50 PM

you know I read these comments - what a snotty bunch of people! How do you know?

Nov. 16 2011 12:50 PM
MP from Brooklyn

I'm despising her more with every word.

Nov. 16 2011 12:49 PM

Don't you think that she's a victim of the scheme a well?

Nov. 16 2011 12:48 PM

Doesn't the poor thing sound oh so broken up about the whole affair - even the suicide of her own husband. Guess potential book proceeds are the best medicine for grief. This family is disgusting top to bottom, inlaws to outlaws.

Nov. 16 2011 12:46 PM

Why was her suicidal husband left alone with the child?

Where was she? Spending her allowance?

Nov. 16 2011 12:45 PM
fuva from Harlemworld

She doesn't "understand how it works", yet she is adamant that her husband didn't know...The family members are guilty of either complicity or incredible incuriousness/ denial. I believe the former, but they profited from the scheme regardless.

Nov. 16 2011 12:44 PM
office from office

They let their son marry goyem??

Nov. 16 2011 12:44 PM
MP from Brooklyn

Self-serving, cynical attempt to cash in - but just that's my opinion, I could be wrong.

Nov. 16 2011 12:43 PM

Oh yeah - didn't know anything, don't know ANYTHING about Wall St. Convenient.

Nov. 16 2011 12:42 PM
Shelley from NYC

Until the entire Madoff family uses every last cent of their assets trying to make whole the victims of Bernie's criminal enterprise, they're all co-conspirators.

Even if they didn't know all that money they were spending was stolen THEN, they know it NOW. Their houses, their cars, their bank accounts -- all bought with stolen funds.

Do the right thing. Give it back. All of it.

Nov. 16 2011 12:41 PM
MP from Brooklyn

Am I the only one who finds this interview inane?

Nov. 16 2011 12:40 PM
john from office

The damage this man did is incredible.

Nov. 16 2011 12:39 PM


1. Why did she need a ghost writer for HER memoirs?

2. It is my understanding that while she capitalizes on the scandal she does not have give proceeds from the sale of "her" book to the victims of the crime, but will she?

Nov. 16 2011 12:39 PM
john from office

ann-marie desmond from London

You can hear the show live or archived.

Nov. 16 2011 12:38 PM
ann-marie desmond from London

Missing WNYC terribly, despite having the BBC!

Nov. 16 2011 07:15 AM

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