Welcome to Politics Bites, where every afternoon at It's A Free Country, we bring you the unmissable quotes from the morning's political conversations on WNYC. Today on the Brian Lehrer Show, David Leonhardt, Washington bureau chief for the New York Times, discussed what's in President Obama's deficit reduction plan, and its political prospects.
Giving up on the 'Big Compromise'
According to David Leonhardt, it's what President Obama had been looking for throughout the debt and deficit debates: the "big compromise" with Republicans that would see both parties getting something they wanted in exchange for giving up something else.
But not anymore.
Obama essentially is stepping back; he's not going to come out with a plan that looks like a compromise. This is very much a Democratic plan—it raises taxes on the wealthy, it cuts domestic and military spending, there are some cuts to Medicare but it almost entirely avoids touching Social Security, and it avoids the big changes to Medicare that he had agreed to in that deal with [House Speaker John] Boehner, like raising the retirement age.
Liberals viewed the debt deal stuck by Obama and Boehner this summer as being to the right of the Bowles-Simpson plan published last fall, which was already too conservative for most on the Left. Less than a year later, Democrats didn't see a compromise on the debt ceiling; they saw a cave-in. Leonhardt said that Obama's new proposal returns to what his base wants, and includes several liberal wish list items that Republicans say are DOA.
[It's as if Obama said,] Republicans don't want to compromise right now, so I'm going to come out with a plan that's closer to what I would actually want if I could do whatever I wanted.
Running on Medicare in 2012
Medicare cuts are part of President Obama's proposal, but Leonhardt said they would come mainly in the form of reduced payments to providers. Because the U.S. has such a vast, sprawling health care system, the largest in the world, there "seems to be some room to cut health care provider payments."
The most important thing for Democrats is that any cuts to Medicare look small and appear not to affect benefits. Leonhardt said that by signing onto Paul Ryan's Medicare overhaul plan, released earlier this year, Republicans made themselves politically vulnerable in the eyes of their competitors.
House and Senate Democrats were eager for Obama to minimize the kind of Medicare cuts he was going to propose; they very much want to run against Republicans in 2012 as wanting to cut Medicare.
Taxation without stagnation?
The focal point of Obama's proposal is how it changes the tax code, closing loopholes and raising rates on the wealthiest Americans. For the past three years, the GOP line has been "taxes kill jobs." And economic recoveries.
Democrats don't believe this, and David Leonhardt is skeptical. He said anyone trying to make that argument had to grapple with the last twenty years of history.
Clinton raised taxes, and everyone [who opposed it] said it was going to be disastrous for the economy...We then have the '90s, which was an incredible decade of growth. Bush cut taxes, people advocating for that said it would lead to a great boom, and instead we had the slowest economic growth of any decade since World War II, followed by a terrible financial crisis.
Bush's tax cuts didn't cause the slow growth or the financial crisis; Clinton's tax increases didn't cause the boom. But they obviously didn't prevent them either.
The White House released a fact sheet accompanying President Obama's proposal this morning, reprinted below.
Fact Sheet: Living Within Our Means and Investing in the Future -
The President’s Plan for Economic Growth and Deficit Reduction
The health of our economy depends on what we do right now to create the conditions where businesses can hire and middle-class families can feel a basic measure of economic security. In the long run, our prosperity also depends on our ability to pay down the massive debt the federal government has accumulated over the past decade. Today, the President sent to the Joint Committee his plan to jumpstart economic growth and job creation now – and to lay the foundation for it continue for years to come.
The President’s Plan for Economic Growth and Deficit Reduction lives up to a simple idea: as a Nation, we can live within our means while still making the investments we need to prosper – from a jobs bill that is needed right now to long-term investments in education, innovation, and infrastructure. It follows a balanced approach: asking everyone to do their part, so no one has to bear all the burden. And it says that everyone – including millionaires and billionaires – has to pay their fair share. Overall, it pays for the President’s jobs bill and produces net savings of more than $3 trillion over the next decade, on top of the roughly $1 trillion in spending cuts that the President already signed into law in the Budget Control Act – for a total savings of more than $4 trillion over the next decade. This would bring the country to a place, by 2017, where current spending is no longer adding to our debt, debt is falling as a share of the economy, and deficits are at a sustainable level.
The American Jobs Act
- Tax cuts to help businesses hire and grow
- Cutting the payroll tax in half on the first $5 million in payroll, targeting the benefit to the 98 percent of firms with payroll below this threshold.
- A complete payroll tax holiday for added workers or increased wages up to $50 million
- Extending 100 percent expensing into 2012
- Reforms and regulatory reductions to help entrepreneurs and small businesses access capital
- Putting workers back on the job while rebuilding and modernizing America
- A “Returning Heroes” hiring tax credit for veterans
- Preventing up to 280,000 teacher layoffs, while keeping cops and firefighters on the job
- Immediate investments in infrastructure, school buildings, and neighborhoods as well as a bipartisan National Infrastructure Bank
- Pathways back to work for Americans looking for jobs
- The most innovative reform to the unemployment insurance program in 40 years and extension of emergency unemployment insurance preventing 6 million Americans looking for work from losing benefits
- A $4,000 tax credit to employers for hiring the long-term unemployed
- Prohibiting employers from discriminating against unemployed workers when hiring
- Expanding job opportunities for low-income youth and adults
- Tax relief for every American worker and family
- Cutting payroll taxes in half for 160 million workers next year
- Allowing more Americans to refinance their mortgages
- Fully paid for as part of the President’s long-term deficit reduction plan
Paying for Our Investments and Reducing the Deficit
- The plan produces approximately $4.4 trillion in deficit reduction net the cost of the American Jobs Act.
- $1.2 trillion from the discretionary cuts enacted in the Budget Control Act
- $580 billion in cuts and reforms to a wide range of mandatory programs
- $1.1 trillion from the drawdown of troops in Afghanistan and transition from a military to a civilian-led mission in Iraq
- $1.5 trillion from tax reform
- $430 billion in additional interest savings
- To spur economic growth and job creation, the plan includes one-time investment and relief in the American Jobs Act. That adds to the deficit in 2012 but is fully paid for over 10 years, and deficit reduction phases in starting in 2013, as the economy grows stronger.
- Deficit reduction is achieved in a balanced approach, with a spending cut to revenue ratio for the entire plan (including discretionary cuts) of 2 to 1.
Deficits and Debt
- The Joint Committee plan significantly reduces deficits and puts the country on a fiscally sustainable path by 2017.
- The deficit is projected to fall to 2.3 percent of GDP in 2021. By comparison, if we did nothing, the deficit would be 5.5 percent of GDP in 2021.
- Reaches “primary balance”-- where our current spending is no longer adding to our debt -- in 2017. At that point, current spending is no longer adding to our debt, debt is falling as a share of the economy, and deficits are at a sustainable level.
- The President’s plan would reduce the national debt as a share of economy.
- Stable or falling debt as a share of the economy is a key metric of fiscal sustainability.
- If we did nothing, the national debt would rise to 90.7 percent of GDP in 2021. By contrast, under the President’s plan, the national debt would fall to 73.0 percent of GDP in 2021 -- or an improvement of almost 18 percentage points.
- The plan includes $320 billion in health savings that build on the Affordable Care Act to strengthen Medicare and Medicaid by reducing wasteful spending and erroneous payments, and supporting reforms that boost the quality of care. It accomplishes this in a way that does not shift significant risks onto the individuals they serve; slash benefits; or undermine the fundamental compact they represent to our Nation’s seniors, people with disabilities, and low-income families.
- The plan includes $248 billion in savings from Medicare.
- Within this total, 90 percent of the savings, or $224 billion, comes from reducing overpayments in Medicare.
- Any savings that affect beneficiaries do not begin until 2017.
- The plan does not propose to change the eligibility age for Medicare benefits.
- Other health and Medicaid savings amount to $72 billion.
- Because of the structural nature of these reforms, health savings grow to over $1 trillion in the second decade.
- The President will veto any bill that takes one dime from the Medicare benefits seniors rely on without asking the wealthiest Americans and biggest corporations to pay their fair share.
- The plan includes $250 billion in savings from other mandatory programs.
- Included within these savings are:
- $33 billion in savings from agriculture subsidies, payments, and programs
- $42.5 billion in reforms to Federal employee benefit programs, including programs for civilian employees and military personnel.
- $4.1 billion from the disposal of unused government assets.
- $92.2 billion from restructuring government operations and reducing government liabilities.
- $77.6 billion from improving Federal program management and reducing waste and abuse.
- The President calls on the Committee to undertake comprehensive tax reform, and lays out five principles for it to follow: 1) lower tax rates; 2) cut wasteful loopholes and tax breaks; 3) reduce the deficit by $1.5 trillion; 4) boost job creation and growth; and 5) comport with the “Buffett Rule” that people making more than $1 million a year should not pay a smaller share of their income in taxes than middle-class families pay.
- Tax reform should draw on the specific proposals the President has put forward, together with elimination of additional inefficient tax breaks. If the Joint Committee is unable to undertake comprehensive tax reform, the President believes the discrete measures he has proposed should be enacted on a standalone basis. Their enactment as a standalone package still would significantly improve the country’s fiscal standing, represent an important step toward more fundamentally transforming our tax code, and serve as a strong foundation for economic growth and job creation.
- To advance this debate, the President is offering a detailed set of specific tax loophole closers and measures to broaden the tax base that, together with the expiration of the high-income tax cuts, would be more than sufficient to hit the $1.5 trillion target. These include:
- Allowing the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts for upper income earners to expire ($866 billion)
- Limiting deductions and exclusions for those making more than $250,000 a year ($410 billion
- Closing loopholes and eliminating special interest tax breaks (approximately $300 billion)