Talk To Me: Jungian look at Mystery Science Theater

Friday, December 04, 2009

Actress Kathleen Chalfant has starred on Broadway, in plays including Wit and Angels in America.  She was in a different role recently at the Rubin Museum of Art, discussing the theories of psychoanalyst Carl Jung as part of the Museum's Red Book Dialogues.

Jungian analyst Margaret Klenck joined Chalfant on stage, to discuss an image from Jung's Red Book, which outlines his theories of the unconcious. Klenck started off the evening with a note about Freud's use of the word "association."  She said, "It means, 'Gee, there's an image of a dog. I had dogs. I had a bunch of dogs. I was allergic to dogs. I was so allergic that the first boyfriend, once, I couldn't kiss him because there were dog hairs....kissing him was like this.' And then you go.  And you get very far away from dog."

Klenk explained how Jung's take differs from Freud's. "Jung said: Stay with the dog.  Amplify. Not associate, but amplify. What does it mean that you're allergic to man's best friend?"

From there, Klenk and Chalfant engaged in an hour-long conversation about everything from aging ("I used to believe everything was going to be fine. But I don't anymore.") to New Years' Eve in Times Square to the television series Mystery Science Theater 3000


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britt finley

I feel very grateful for these broadcasts--I live in Missoula, Mt. and have not be able to travel to NYC and attend the Rubin in person, however, the delight of being there by the stream is been an immeasurable gift. Thank you for this series of audio casts, especially these spontaneous conversations of both Klenk and Chalfant. This is such a wonderful use of the web and brings me delight. Thank you to all those who made all this possible.

Dec. 06 2009 12:03 AM

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