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Brooklyn Has the Most FDNY Companies Facing the Ax

Wednesday, May 18, 2011

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The Bloomberg Administration on Wednesday released the names of 20 fire companies the mayor is considering closing to help close the city's budget gap. The document given to the City Council lists eight closings in Brooklyn, four in Queens, three each in the Bronx and Manhattan and two in Staten Island.

The administration's report states the units are among the less active in the city and that surrounding companies would be able to absorb the workload. Earlier this week during city council hearings, Fire Commissioner Sal Cassano conceded the closures would have a spill over impact in terms of response times and the number of safety inspections the Department could complete.

City council members are expected to vigorously fight the closures in their districts.

List of companies and fire houses involved:

  • Engine 4, 42 South St. Manhattan 
  • Engine 26,  220 West 37th St. Manhattan
  • Engine 46, 460 Cross Bronx Expwy. Bronx
  • Engine 60, 341 East 143rd St. Bronx
  • Engine 157, 1573 Castleton Ave. Staten Island
  • Engine 161, 278 McClean Ave. Staten Island
  • Engine 205, 74 Middagh St. Brooklyn
  • Engine 206, 1201 Grand St. Brooklyn
  • Engine 218, 650 Hart St. Brooklyn
  • Engine 220, 530 11th St. Brooklyn
  • Engine 233, 25 Rockaway Ave. Brooklyn
  • Engine 284, 1157 79th St. Brooklyn
  • Engine 294, 101-20 Jamaica Ave. Queens
  • Engine 306, 40-18 214th Place Queens
  • Engine 328, 16-19 Central Ave. Queens
  • Ladder 8, 14 North Moore St. Manhattan
  • Ladder 53, 169 Schofield Ave. Bronx
  • Ladder 104, 161 South 2nd St. Brooklyn
  • Ladder 128, 33-51 Greenpoint Ave. Queens 
  • Ladder 161, 2929 W 8th St. Brooklyn

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Jun. 06 2011 10:56 AM

Hey chris I'd rather be over protected than barely protected. We can't put fires out nor would I want to try, and I don't about you but if I was having a heart attack I think it would be tough to do CPR on my self. But you know what close the fire houses, And put the public at risk, let me guess none of the 20 firehouses on the closure list are where you live. Firefighters took an oath to save lives, the lives of the civlians of new York city. Anyone who doesn't know me and who would save my life for a basic blue collar wage is the definition of hero to me. The 343 firefighters who died on 9/11 left an endless list of wives, children, parents and loving relatives and how did this happen, TRYING TO SAVE US!

May. 27 2011 10:42 PM

As for you Hal the fire department are certified first responders. Meaning the FD gets to the scene first to provide first care to a patient who possibly is in cardiac arrest, and for that patient the most important thing is getting oxygen and care as soon as possible. Considering there are more fire companies than Abulances, the Fdny initiated this protocal around 1995 for one purpose, which was to help protect us the people of new York city. ( as if they haven't always protected us). So when they aren't fighting fires, responding to car accidents, carbon monoxide alarms, gas odors, downed trees or wires, blown manhole covers, subway fires, false alarms in faulty alarm panels....etc.... Oh yeah beside all that they still find time to get to you or your loved one when you need it the most.

May. 27 2011 09:10 AM
John Brooklyn

You've got to be kidding me! Anyone who would speak bad about an under staffed and underpaid service, whos members willingly, sacrifice thier health and even thier lives to save us the public, is a sad individual. I would be worried where the rest of our 60 plus billion of our tax money is going!!

May. 26 2011 11:18 PM

I can vouch for the North Shore of Staten Island: this is a real problem, yet consistent with our disenfranchied status. The area is mixed use, with combustible wood-frame houses and hazardous heavy industry cheek-to-jowl. In all processes the North Shore residents are not considered, because most are lower income, of the non-caucasion persuasion, and often undocumented. Many people are making their mortgages by way of illegal conversions to rental units: a clear fire hazard. Check the news for fires and explosions in the area, for goodness sake!

May. 26 2011 06:46 PM
Hal from Brooklyn

I've always wondered why firetrucks respond to injuries. Shouldn't they remain available for fires, and let ambulances respond to injuries?

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May. 19 2011 07:50 AM

Close them. The Bronx is not burning anymore, nor is Brooklyn. While we're at it cut half of the NYPD. They are making way more money than FDNY writing bogus tickets to juke stats and justify their OT and lifelong pensions. I am not a conservative in the least and I am pro-union, but too much is too much. Put the money into better roads (for pedestrians, cyclists alternative fuel buses), keeping NYPL open, social services, job training, better school lunches, etc.

May. 19 2011 12:41 AM
Kevin

Mr. Chris from Brooklyn,

"Over paying" as compared to whom? FDNY provides one of the most economical services of any fire department anywhere in the nation. A Columbus, Ohio study found that the FDNY, despite being the largest and busiest fire department in the company, spends just $157.56 per person, less
than half of San Francisco’s $315.81 figure. That’s not bad service to get 6 men at any time of the day, every day of the year within 5-6 minutes to solve whatever life threatening issue may arise...don't you think so?

Another study by Columbia U. found that the FDNY saved $3.1 Billion in property and lives while only costing taxpayers $1.5 Billion...Nice ROI, don't you agree?

Fires are down compared to what? An arbitrary date in the recent past? Fires are up compared to 1940? Down compared to the statistically aberrant 1970s. The comparison is irrelevant. Fires/emergencies and alarms are at all time highs. This is indisputable.

The FDNY has always hired the most qualified as determined by Civil Service Law and the exams are developed by DCAS who creates all exams for all city agencies. It is the most equitable, fairest hiring system in the entire country. The "minorities" who are on the job today are here because they applied themselves as individuals just as every other man or woman has done. To suggest otherwise is paternalistic, rife with condescension and insulting to their achievements as individuals.
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May. 18 2011 11:09 PM
Harry from Brooklyn, NY

OMG! They say nothing about Ladder 8's role as ghost busters! (The firehouse is in the movie; as a tour guide I'm paid to know the trivia.)

May. 18 2011 10:28 PM
chris from brooklyn

I say close them down. We are over paying for over protection. There are really few fires anymore. They do a lot of "make work" stuff like inspections, getting cats down from trees and car accidents. Do we really need three trucks for a car accident. Finally most of the fire men, and I do mean men only, live in the suburbs, retire on "fake disability after 20 year and don't minorites join their ranks. I believe they are are around 8% even after the suit, which they are still fighting. What a waste of my NYC tax dollars.

May. 18 2011 10:17 PM
John Keefe, WNYC

A quick investigation suggests Kevin is right -- and that it's not accurate to represent a company's assigned district as its "service area" for responding to emergencies.

So I've changed the map to indicate, instead, the location of the firehouses that are home to the companies involved.

Thanks!

May. 18 2011 08:08 PM
Kevin

Your map only shows their Building Inspection territory. You'll note that a number of the "service areas" don't even inlcude the firehouse they reside in. That doesn't truly represent what area they cover and service for emergencies and fires.

May. 18 2011 05:39 PM

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