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The SUNY System

Wednesday, May 04, 2011

Nancy Zimpher, Chancellor of the State University of New York, talks about the State University of New York system and a new program, NYSUNY 2020, which will increase capital funding for research campuses and would set a schedule of different tuition increases.

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May. 07 2011 11:26 PM
Zach from Long Island

New York shot itself in the foot back in the 1800s when it gave its land grant from the Morrill Act to Cornell, a PRIVATE school. (the same act created all great Public Schools: Berekely, Madison, PennState ect) New York has to make up for that mistake by making its campuses (or at least one) top-notch. The highest ranked SUNY is Bing (my current school) at 82nd. Where as each UC school is higher than each SUNY research center. My suggested is to rename each university center "University of New York - Binghamton", charge slightly higher (maybe the cost of Rutgers or Penn State) and raise its ranking to compete with the flagship unis of other states.

May. 05 2011 09:59 PM
carla from suburbia

SUNY tuition is about the only thing in NY that's not EXPENSIVE.
$8 tolls to cross the GWB,
$10,000 property tax on a modest ranch home which is over an hour from the city.
$125 parking tickets.
Someof the worst roads in the country despite the highest taxes.
NY is crazy expensive and having a bargain in higher education was about the only positive.
Raise tuition for out-of-state students (who haven't paid thru the nose all their life).
Is it any wonder I'll be leaving NY when I retire.

May. 05 2011 05:19 PM
TT

As someone who has been around state universities for over 20 years, I have been very disappointed at the way Albany has ignored the top three SUNY colleges. Over the years legislature has gone out of the way to push down these campuses by keeping tuition artificially while propping up private institutes such as Cornell and Columbia.
If Albany is really interested in making education affordable and if it thinks that this low tuition at SUNY campuses is feasible, there is another way it can be done. Increase the tuition to match other similar sized campuses across the country (Penn State, OSU etc) - then give scholarships to needy students.

May. 05 2011 02:59 PM
geTaylor from Bklyn.,NY

Chancellor Zimpher is trying to institutionalize future state leagislative raids on the tuition payments made to SUNY.

The legislature and the govenor have already conducted such a raid during the budget crisis. How much more easily will they find their way to SUNY's income stream when there is already an established link between that income and the "economic" development of the areas surrounding various campuses.

In a sense, Chancellor Zimpher is merely a clone of the "investment" advisors and "get-rich-from-home-ownership-invest-in-mortgages" shills who populated the landscape during the late 1990's and this decade to until the crash of home values in 2008. She is selling the "college education as a means to insure financial success" scam. While it is probably true that many of the still employed are college graduates, there are just as many if not more gradutes unable to obtain employment or re-employment.

"But gee", says the Chancellor, "We cheat you for a lower price (excluding room and board and books or I-pads) so we're not as bad as the other scammers."

As in the recent banking / Federal Reserve shennanigans there will be no prosecutions.

May. 04 2011 05:06 PM
stephen from stony brook

As a PhD candidate currently at Stony Brook, I can confidently say that Ms. Zimpher is doing less than 0.1% to actually "put her money where her mouth is", with respect to job creation, revenue generation, etc.

There is currently HUNDREDS of thousands of $$ worth of scientific equipment (older, but either perfectly reparable and/or functional) sitting in Property Control (as well as several other places, which I won't mention :-D). If she were serious (which she's clearly not), she would 1) integrate the SBU Technology Incubator on the other side of Nichols rd. with SBU campus 2) immediately catalog/repair/repurpose/bring online the equipment at the incubator or use the South Hampton campus - full-on, both barrels blazing. 3) Immediately put a "call out" to offer reduced/free/MOU and/or Term Sheet for use of this gear for start ups 4) immediately draw up an IP agreement for patent prosecution/royalty sharing with said "start ups" 5) Further streamline the research-use process for all the kick-butt facilities at BNL (NSLS, NSLSII, RHIC, CFN, etc. etc.!!) and 6) Implement 1,3,5 yr action plans for above. She'd generate hundreds of research and support jobs and reap massive royalties. SBU, in this fashion, could easily become the #1 employer/revenue generator on L.I. within 7-10 yrs.

The current clearing house that SUNY uses to manage grant money (called the SUNY Research Foundation), located in Albany, is a complete bureaucratic disaster. It has a laundry list of critical problems that is simply too long to specifically elucidate here.

May. 04 2011 12:43 PM
Peg

The tuition stated sounds very reasonable given tuition rates for higher education over all. When I attended SUNY Cortland - while the younger students all complained about tuition - they left their deposit soda cans all over the place for janitors to clean up and turned the thermostats all the way up in the winter and then opened the windows when they got a little too hot...

Education is expensive and waste is expensive too - which would you prefer to pay for?

May. 04 2011 11:59 AM
MERT Sanivar from NY

I'm a former fulltime SUNY New Paltz grad. student and paid out-of-state tuition for 2,5 years since I was an international student from Turkey. My immigrant status has changed though I'm still a non-resident. I've been here in the US for 4 years and am wondering if there is any regulation that allows international students present in the US more than a certain time to benefit from in-state tuition. Thanks

May. 04 2011 11:59 AM
Karen from NYC

My son is graduating in two weeks from Westchester Community College. He has obtained good, solid first-and-second-year college education and will attend Hunter College (CUNY, where I teach as an adjunct) to earn his B.A. His WCC tuition -- $4,000 per year -- has been incredibly low, given today's tuition rates. I evaluated the curriculum and faculty from the point of view of a teacher, and was very pleased with both. Tuition should remain affordable.

My son has a learning disability. Were it not for WCC, he'd not have gone to college. Instead, he's "learned how to learn" and is ready for a 4-year school.

SUNY is a great choice for New Yorkers and deserves our continued support.

May. 04 2011 11:58 AM
Marc Horowitz from NYC

CUNY/SUNY agenda is to increase city/state tax rolls - pls keep your eyes on this agenda.

May. 04 2011 11:58 AM

where does the LOTTERY money go?

May. 04 2011 11:58 AM
David Kavanaugh from Brooklyn, NY

From a SUNY alumnus on the issue of tuition hikes - the fact that everyone else is doing it doesn't make it right.

May. 04 2011 11:57 AM
Paul from Stony Brook

The four research campuses represent a huge asset for the SUNY system. Coming from California, they are probably on par with some of the UC schools. The students and people of New York State are getting a HUGE bargain for an education at these schools. The operation of these schools is also much more than other SUNY schools, including the community colleges.

Without the increases, the quality of teaching goes down due to limited resources which is incompatible to the high enrollment at these schools. Are there ways for these institutions to keep some of the revenue based on enrollment to offset the higher demand on teaching?

May. 04 2011 11:57 AM
Kyle from NYC from New York, NY

The criteria for “phase one” of the NYSUNY 2020 Challenge Grant Program does not appear to include sustainability, a central theme of SUNY’s strategic planning and a focus of the four major SUNY University Centers as well as other SUNY campuses. Maybe just an oversight, but can Chancellor Zimpher please address how sustainable economic development will be incorporated and encouraged by the Challenge Grant Program.

May. 04 2011 11:56 AM
Jon NYS-Born from NJ

Tuition differential is necessary. The product is not the same, facilities, professors, programs, why should the price be the same? Get real people, SUNY has been underpriced at the anchor schools for some time and the lack of funding is impacting the delivery of education.
She is 100% spot on.

May. 04 2011 11:55 AM
mike from NYC

How can the United States hope to remain competitive in the world if it makes education so expensive that every year fewer students feel they can, in an uncertain job market, they can responsibly make the investment? The answer that is now being played out is to import educated people from other countries, as so many business leaders demand. If the best jobs increasingly go to immigrants on H1-b visas, what use is our formerly great university system to the citizens who pay for it?

May. 04 2011 11:54 AM
tom from astoria

SOme perspective. In 1979 i started at Suny Buffalo and thrn transferred to SUNY Binghampton. At that time tuition was $905.00 per semester full time

May. 04 2011 11:48 AM
Estelle

How will this affect out-of-state tuition? We've moved out of state but my son still wants to attend SUNY. Can we expect similar tuition increases?

May. 04 2011 11:42 AM

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