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What the Revolution Means for Women

Monday, February 07, 2011

Dr. Nawal El Saadawi, Egyptian feminist and author of The Hidden Face of Eve, joins Yasmin Moll, an Egyptian American PhD student from NYU, to discuss what impact the revolution may have on women's rights.

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Dr. Nawal El Saadawi and Yasmin Moll
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Comments [20]

Amy from Manhattan

Henry, most of the Jews in Egypt moved to Israel after it was founded, & most of the rest were already pretty old & have died since then..

Feb. 08 2011 01:45 AM
Amy from Manhattan

It was the regime that burned the churches? Does that include the suicide bomber who blew himself up in the Coptic church in Alexandria? That certainly isn't the impression I got at the time. (But it was great to hear how Muslims went to the church afterwards to protect the Christians who went back there.)

Feb. 08 2011 01:37 AM
Gaetano Catelli from Oxford, Mississippi

re: "She is an anti american anti semite academic."

aren't they all? why single out this one?

what makes Brian so special is that he allows people of varying viewpoints to express their point of view, without constantly interrupting them, or playing 'gotcha', or trying to prove how much smarter he is than his own guest on the show.

it's hardly as if the views expressed by this guest are constantly being aired in the MSM.

please let Brian be Brian.

Feb. 07 2011 11:32 PM

Yasmin Moll claimed that concern about Islam's treatment of women is "racist". That there are those who hate Muslims out of bigotry is sadly true, but that does not make all criticism of Islam bigoted, never mind "racist". (How can it be racist if no race is involved? She meant "bigoted", but so be it.) That Dr. Saadawi went along with that claim and actually claimed that Christianity and Judaism are worse in their treatment of women flies in the face of reality. She resorted to limiting the fact-base for her argument to scriptures that are 2000-3000 years old. How ridiculous! The vast numbers of Jews and Christians live in liberal, relatively gender-equal cultures. Sadly, this is not so for Muslims. That two feminists would make the argument that Islam is good for women is sad. That one should be Dr. Sadaawi is doubly sad.

Feb. 07 2011 12:10 PM
Adam Holland from Brooklyn

How can Dr. Saadawi both a) blame the West for installing the Islamist regime in Iran to undo that secular revolution, and b) claim that the West is slandering the Muslim Brotherhood as Islamist to undo this secular revolution? These arguments are incorrect both factually and logically, and they contradict each other.

1) The West did not support Khomeni.. In fact, some anti-imperialist, leftist apologists denied he was a tyrant, and claimed that Western opposition to him was imperialist and Orientalist. (Michel Foucault comes to mind.)

2) The Muslim Brotherhood has a long history of supporting theocratic totalitarianism. This is no secret. That they now have supporters who advocate a moderate form Islamism like Turkey's is a recent innovation and far from the mainstream of the organization. Moreover, the differences between Turkey and Egypt are so vast that this comparison is apples and oranges.

3) The Iranian Islamists were happy to participate in a coalition until they coalesced power and marginalized, exiled, imprisoned and executed their opponents. That exists as a risk in Egypt should the MB take power.

4) Many of us in the West, in the Middle East and elsewhere both support democracy and oppose Islamicism as intrinsically contrary to democracy. That Dr. Saadawi disagrees is sad, but does not change my mind. Religious totalitarianism must be opposed everywhere.

5) With all that, I wish the Egyptians well and hope that my fears re the MB never materialize.

Feb. 07 2011 11:57 AM
Elaine from Baltimore

Please refer your guest to the Jewish ketubah which is the conjugal and moral responsbility of the husband to his wife. Judaism acknowledges there are DIFFERENCES in the role of men & women and that both roles are viewed as important and purposeful. Her comments were rather superficial and false regarding Judaism.

Feb. 07 2011 11:53 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

Brian....you are "mailing it in' these days.

Feb. 07 2011 11:44 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

This is cuckoo.
She studied the Old Testament?? So what.

Western democracies from the judeo-Christian traditions now have sexual equality...or at least have made a pretty good try.

This is what passes for feminism in Egypt?

Feb. 07 2011 11:42 AM
John from office

Brain can you please contradict this nonsense

Feb. 07 2011 11:42 AM

...that's because religions where made up by men...

Feb. 07 2011 11:41 AM
Henry Schmelzer

There used to be a sizable Jewish population in Egypt. They are gone. Not even a mention of them in this conversation.

Henry

Feb. 07 2011 11:39 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

Concern about Islamists is RACISM ????

Ask the young woman shot in Tehran in June 2009.

This segment was surreal, Brian.....absolutely surreal

Feb. 07 2011 11:37 AM
Mary Ann Riad from Westchester, NY

Hi,
I would like to ask Dr. Saadawi if she believes that the opposition is ready and equipped to usher in the democratic process? Also, are the protesters organizing and planning to support a political party? How will they follow through and ensure that their demands will be met?
Thank you,
Mary Ann RIad

Feb. 07 2011 11:37 AM
i give up

sounds great! now they just have to get the other 90 million egyptians to act like those harvard square protesters... or can they turn this square into its own country? anyway i'm glad these women were around thousands of men yet were not hrrassed and raped.

Feb. 07 2011 11:36 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

Oh, this is sad.
This poor scarred woman is caught up in the emotions of the moment. If the Brotherhood takes over, she should pack her bags for prison again.

Feb. 07 2011 11:33 AM
john from office

This woman is the reason we support the present ruler.

She is an anti american anti semite academic.

Brian ask her a hard question please.

Feb. 07 2011 11:31 AM

there are many more religions tan muslim and christian.

Feb. 07 2011 11:31 AM
Skye

Why do women wear head scarves?

Feb. 07 2011 11:28 AM
Mohamad from Brooklyn

This person is lying. If "Hundreds: were killed then the whole world would have heard.
This is a liar.

Feb. 07 2011 11:27 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

Brian, PLEASE avoid the puff questions and ask your guests from the academic bubble what they think "the people" will do in power when a center-left Pew Poll this past year found that, when given a choice, 59% of the public favored Islamists and a mere 27% favored modernizers. (This poll was widely discussed in the Israeli press, but barely noted by the NYT).
Let's get real here.

Feb. 07 2011 11:22 AM

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